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Ron Paul on Coronavirus
« on: March 18, 2020, 11:47:07 AM »
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  • Over at Salon they're saying Paul is suggesting that the virus may be a hoax:

    "The former GOP presidential candidate concluded: "People should ask themselves whether this coronavirus 'pandemic' could be a big hoax, with the actual danger of the disease massively exaggerated by those who seek to profit – financially or politically – from the ensuing panic."

    I don't know where they're getting that quote about "hoax," but I don't see it in the article Ron Paul wrote here:

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    Be wary of overreaching government responses to coronavirus

    by Ron Paul

    Governments love crises because when the people are fearful they are more willing to give up freedoms for promises that the government will take care of them.

    After 9/11, for example, Americans accepted the near-total destruction of their civil liberties in the PATRIOT Act’s hollow promises of security.

    It is ironic to see the same Democrats who tried to impeach President Trump last month for abuse of power demanding that the Trump Administration grab more power and authority in the name of fighting a virus that thus far has killed less than 100 Americans.

    Declaring a pandemic emergency on Friday, President Trump now claims the power to quarantine individuals suspected of being infected by the virus and, as Politico writes, “stop and seize any plane, train or automobile to stymie the spread of contagious disease.” He can even call out the military to cordon off a US city or state.

    State and local authoritarians love panic as well. The mayor of Champaign, Illinois, signed an executive order declaring the power to ban the sale of guns and alcohol and cut off gas, water, or electricity to any citizen. The governor of Ohio just essentially closed his entire state.

    The chief fearmonger of the Trump Administration is without a doubt Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health. Fauci is all over the media, serving up outright falsehoods to stir up even more panic. He testified to Congress that the death rate for the coronavirus is ten times that of the seasonal flu, a claim without any scientific basis.

    On Face the Nation, Fauci did his best to further damage an already tanking economy by stating, “Right now, personally, myself, I wouldn’t go to a restaurant.” He has pushed for closing the entire country down for 14 days.

    Over what? A virus that has thus far killed just over 5,000 worldwide and less than 100 in the United States? By contrast, tuberculosis, an old disease not much discussed these days, killed nearly 1.6 million people in 2017. Where’s the panic over this?

    If anything, what people like Fauci and the other fearmongers are demanding will likely make the disease worse. The martial law they dream about will leave people hunkered down inside their homes instead of going outdoors or to the beach where the sunshine and fresh air would help boost immunity. The panic produced by these fearmongers is likely helping spread the disease, as massive crowds rush into Walmart and Costco for that last roll of toilet paper.

    The madness over the coronavirus is not limited to politicians and the medical community. The head of the neoconservative Atlantic Council wrote an editorial this week urging NATO to pass an Article 5 declaration of war against the COVID-19 virus! Are they going to send in tanks and drones to wipe out these microscopic enemies?

    That is not to say the disease is harmless. Without question people will die from coronavirus. Those in vulnerable categories should take precautions to limit their risk of exposure. But we have seen this movie before. Government over-hypes a threat as an excuse to grab more of our freedoms. When the “threat” is over, however, they never give us our freedoms back.

    Dr. Ron Paul is a former member of the House of Representatives. This article was written for and published by the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity.

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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #1 on: March 18, 2020, 01:01:30 PM »
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  • The word "hoax" appears in the title of the article at its source, the website of the Ron Paul Institute. Here is the link.

    As you correctly note, however, "hoax" never appears in the article itself. It's thus a safe bet that the title was generated not by Dr. Paul himself but by a member of the site's editorial staff.

    For better or worse, it is standard practice at newspapers and magazines for headlines and article titles to be drafted by a staff of people who answer directly to the managing editor or editor in chief. That is to say, those who write articles seldom, if ever, get to title their own work.


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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #2 on: March 18, 2020, 01:19:50 PM »
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  • As you correctly note, however, "hoax" never appears in the article itself. It's thus a safe bet that the title was generated not by Dr. Paul himself but by a member of the site's editorial staff.

    But actually that quote is part of the article, as the most authoritative link is the one you supplied, to the Ron Paul Institute. It's the second-to-last paragraph.

    For some reason the Press Telegram website, where I first read the piece, deleted the part out where Paul suggests that the virus might be a hoax.
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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #3 on: March 18, 2020, 01:45:17 PM »
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  • Worse place to be is hospital or nursing home.  
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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #4 on: March 18, 2020, 02:41:47 PM »
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  • Anthony Fauci is such a shark- He's the "expert' that jacked up the panic over AIDS in the 80's when it was the AZT that was killing the patients. These evil people hang around forever.


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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #5 on: March 18, 2020, 02:53:48 PM »
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  • But actually that quote is part of the article, as the most authoritative link is the one you supplied, to the Ron Paul Institute. It's the second-to-last paragraph.

    For some reason the Press Telegram website, where I first read the piece, deleted the part out where Paul suggests that the virus might be a hoax.

    Mea culpa. I am guilty of reading the original Press Telegram article from start to finish but not the one I linked to.

    As it happens, the Press Telegram's headline makes a good match for the edited version of the article. Perhaps the paper's editors' intention was to remove the potentially inflammatory reference to a hoax and focus on Tony Fauci's predictably self-serving grandiosity. Paul was one of the few people in government who ever criticized Fauci's huge part in the AIDS hoax, but no exposé or criticism of Fauci seems to produce a positive outcome.

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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #6 on: March 18, 2020, 03:23:58 PM »
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  • What's the best expose on Fauci to read?
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #7 on: March 18, 2020, 03:26:37 PM »
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  • Ron Paul Liberty Report about Coronavirus:

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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #8 on: March 18, 2020, 05:10:07 PM »
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  • What's the best exposé on Fauci to read?

    It's hardly surprising that most of the anti-Fauci stuff out there concerns his role in contributing to the myth of HIV and AIDS. Thanks to the mythology, he went from being one of many relatively unimportant holders of government-linked directorships to the sovereign of an almost impregnable power base.

    There are several AIDS-debunking videos around, for none of which I stored links but all of which make plain that Fauci's primary if not sole interests were always money and power. It's been five years at least since I looked at any of them, and so they may all have sunk without trace. I'll ask around. Apropos this topic, one must keep in mind that for every AIDS researcher of unimpeachable character (e.g., Peter Duesberg), there are three or four of whose life style the less said the better.

    Fauci and the CDC were stage-center throughout Professor Duesberg's now thirty-year-old classic Inventing the AIDS Virus. It's still the most important book ever written about government's role in perpetrating medical and scientific frauds, and nothing in it has ever been scientifically (as opposed to journalistically) debunked. Its relevance to what is happening with the Wuhan virus hoax could hardly be greater.

    There isn't much info at Duesberg's website, but it's still a good place to start. He hasn't updated it since the very early 2000s, when I was briefly in correspondence with him. Lovely, brilliant, funny man; no ego problems at all and skin a yard thick.

    Finally, if you do a web search on Fauci paired separately with the names Peter Duesberg and then Kary Mullis (1993 Chemistry Nobel Prize winner), you will find a great deal of material exposing Fauci as an opportunist and a censor of scientific data and opinions that do not serve his own ends.

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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #9 on: March 18, 2020, 06:00:11 PM »
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  • That Peter Duesberg book changed a lot for me. Excellent book. I remember back in 2004 the ER MD I was working with told me to never mention  Duesberg's name in front of him.(like it was a dirty word or something) They considered him that toxic a threat to the mainstream story about AIDS -it was almost religious

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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #10 on: March 19, 2020, 03:04:18 PM »
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  • That Peter Duesberg book changed a lot for me. Excellent book. I remember back in 2004 the ER MD I was working with told me to never mention Duesberg's name in front of him (like it was a dirty word or something). They considered him that toxic a threat to the mainstream story about AIDS--it was almost religious.

    Indeed, Duesberg was then and still is toxic to the medical-research establishment—and not merely with regards to the AIDS orthodoxy. You might recall that almost as an aside, Duesberg managed to debunk a core component of their mythic edifice: the idea that peer review is essential to scientific knowledge. Duesberg pointed out that, on the contrary, peer review was nothing more than a process by which your competitors get to decide what you can sell. This is the sort of thing that, once seen, can't be forgotten. The notion that an advanced degree in one of the hard sciences magically makes its possessor less venal than a guy who has cornered the widget market and wants things to stay as they are has been sold to a gullible public for nigh on to two hundred years. Undermining the peer-review scam is a surefire way to gore the ox of virtually everyone in the biomedical establishment.

    From the perspective of the establishment, especially the ever-expanding part of it linked to the government, worse still was Duesberg's very well founded explanation of why privately funded research was inherently better than "publicly" funded (i.e., government-funded) research. Privately funded research is goal oriented, and everyone hired to do it knows from the start what they have been hired for and what the consequences of success and failure are—viz., for the former, perhaps more research for more money; for the latter, nothing at all except a return to the status quo ante. Publicly funded research, however, is almost invariably open ended. It thus attracts people who seek a permanent sinecure, people who quickly see that the worst thing that can happen to a research project is to make a breakthrough of some sort. Duesberg's prime example was cancer research, a field in which he himself was a star of the first magnitude. He noted that a seemingly endless supply of public cash had been invested in pursuing a viral basis for cancer despite the fact that, already in the late 1980s, the result had been thirty-plus years of failure. He revealed that continued failure was to be expected in this and similar areas of research because, if the research ever came up with real answers, the scientists involved would lose their extremely lucrative grants! So much for the establishment's high-mindedness.

    The bottom line is that Duesberg revealed that the American medical-research establishment is a dogmatic secular religion and a false religion to boot. Small wonder, then, that its grand inquisitors wanted to stretch Duesberg on the rack and expunge his very name from human awareness.


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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #11 on: March 22, 2020, 04:00:47 PM »
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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #12 on: March 22, 2020, 04:21:35 PM »
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  • Rand Paul has "hoax" COVID19 virus

    https://www.kentucky.com/news/coronavirus/article241411336.html

    In common with other public figures, Rand Paul spends a great deal of time in large public gatherings. What's more, many of the people he is in contact with, almost certainly including the woman from whom he seems to have contracted the virus, are Chinese or East Asian in origin. So why the surprise that he has picked up the virus? Even more, what's the big deal?

    The simple fact is that the odds that Rand Paul will suffer effects more serious than those of the common cold are lower than 0.2 percent and the odds that he will fully recover in a week or less borders on 100 percent.

    Those hereabouts who are devotees of the Establishment narrative ought to look in the back of the closet for the Christian fortitude they tucked away heaven knows when. Once they find it and put it on, perhaps they'll stop cowering in a corner.

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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #13 on: March 23, 2020, 04:06:08 PM »
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  • In common with other public figures, Rand Paul spends a great deal of time in large public gatherings. What's more, many of the people he is in contact with, almost certainly including the woman from whom he seems to have contracted the virus, are Chinese or East Asian in origin. So why the surprise that he has picked up the virus? Even more, what's the big deal?

    The simple fact is that the odds that Rand Paul will suffer effects more serious than those of the common cold are lower than 0.2 percent and the odds that he will fully recover in a week or less borders on 100 percent.

    Those hereabouts who are devotees of the Establishment narrative ought to look in the back of the closet for the Christian fortitude they tucked away heaven knows when. Once they find it and put it on, perhaps they'll stop cowering in a corner.
    Is he faking being sick with a fake virus?  I'm just curious.

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    Re: Ron Paul on Coronavirus
    « Reply #14 on: March 23, 2020, 04:15:04 PM »
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  • I thought it said he tested positive. 
    Did he have symptoms?  Test kits can sometimes get false readings. 

    I use diabetes test strips. Sometimes there are bad strips. 
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