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Republicans are not the answer when it comes to Abortion
« on: July 31, 2009, 12:38:38 PM »
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  • Here is a sane commentary on a pro-life article I recently received by e-mail:

    Bear in mind that Dr. frank is a mouthpiece for the neo-cons. This is merely an extension of the same tired old argument we have heard since January 1973 -- that despite not being perfect we must vote for the republican candidate due to the abortion issue. The so-called Republican Christians elected were all Masons of one splinter group or another, and by the conclusion of their term government expanded exponentially and the rate of abortion was little changed. Differences between Republican and Democratic administrations centered on peripheral issues such as abortions on military bases and partial birth. Note that when the court upheld the partial birth abortion ban it merely struck down one procedure. The court in fact went to lengths to stress that it did not prohibit late term abortion and in fact identified procedures it considered constitutional to be used even at the moment immediately prior to delivery. The rate of abortion fluctuated year to year between 1.2  and 1.5 million victims despite the party in the white house, congress or courts.
     
    Republican administrations loaded their cabinets with raging pro-aborts who fought for and received increases in Title X funding especially under "W".
     
    What stands out most when viewing presidential administrations is the influence of the Council on Foreign Relations.  In fact the centerpiece of Democrat and Republican administrations has long been Henry Kissinger a radical eugenicist (for more on that read Seeds of Destruction) and Zibignew Brezhinsky co-founder of the CFR. David Rockefeller was the other co-founder of the CFR. [David Rockefeller sent hundreds of millions of dollars to Weimar and National Socialist Germany in support of the eugenic practices and research. He did not end funding until Germany invaded Poland.]
     
    While I respect her pro-life activism, Palin will not redefine the life of the mother issue, therefore we can expect little more than smoke and mirror debates over such issues as abortion on military bases, cloning, and the like. The real purpose of those controversies is to delude the public into believing there is a difference between the Masonic-Zionist-nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr Republican party and the Masonic-Zionist-nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr Democrat party.
     
    Once Obama is finished taking a wrecking ball to our economy, attacking the family and the faith, we will be prodded toward voting for a Zionist-Pro-Birth Control-Pro-Sex Education-Female Presidential candidate.
     
    Returning to the abortion issue, the Court has already stated they will refuse to hear any challenge to Roe. Presumably the same applies to Bolton.

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    Republicans are not the answer when it comes to Abortion
    « Reply #1 on: August 05, 2009, 11:37:04 AM »
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  • Well said.....I have worked past 5 yrs in Constitution Party, definately not perfect or Catholic, but an means to end, however imperfect. Ideally, would be nice to have a Catholci Party, but in seeing the Catholic world 1st hand and through forums, few chances to date......have urged Catholics to get involved in CP and take leadership positions......getting to the point, actually almost there, were I will give up on political process, but trying to do what I can....we all try to do what we can.....
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    Republicans are not the answer when it comes to Abortion
    « Reply #2 on: August 05, 2009, 01:11:56 PM »
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    Well said.....I have worked past 5 yrs in Constitution Party, definately not perfect or Catholic, but an means to end, however imperfect. Ideally, would be nice to have a Catholci Party, but in seeing the Catholic world 1st hand and through forums, few chances to date......have urged Catholics to get involved in CP and take leadership positions......getting to the point, actually almost there, were I will give up on political process, but trying to do what I can....we all try to do what we can.....


    I'm going to have to disagree with you to an extent here Belloc. The Jesuits of La Civilta Cattolica discouraged the creation of Catholic parties and Catholics getting too involved with political like the Dems and Gop. Their distrust of Catholic parties was proven correct when the German Zentrum party went along with the Socialists in the creation of the Weimar Republic.
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    Republicans are not the answer when it comes to Abortion
    « Reply #3 on: August 05, 2009, 02:37:14 PM »
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    Well said.....I have worked past 5 yrs in Constitution Party, definately not perfect or Catholic, but an means to end, however imperfect. Ideally, would be nice to have a Catholci Party, but in seeing the Catholic world 1st hand and through forums, few chances to date......have urged Catholics to get involved in CP and take leadership positions......getting to the point, actually almost there, were I will give up on political process, but trying to do what I can....we all try to do what we can.....


    I'm going to have to disagree with you to an extent here Belloc. The Jesuits of La Civilta Cattolica discouraged the creation of Catholic parties and Catholics getting too involved with political like the Dems and Gop. Their distrust of Catholic parties was proven correct when the German Zentrum party went along with the Socialists in the creation of the Weimar Republic.


    I understand, what about the Christian Democrats,etc in nations like pre-WW2 Germany.......?

    By what manner do Cathollics get involved?
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

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    Republicans are not the answer when it comes to Abortion
    « Reply #4 on: August 05, 2009, 04:27:31 PM »
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    Well said.....I have worked past 5 yrs in Constitution Party, definately not perfect or Catholic, but an means to end, however imperfect. Ideally, would be nice to have a Catholci Party, but in seeing the Catholic world 1st hand and through forums, few chances to date......have urged Catholics to get involved in CP and take leadership positions......getting to the point, actually almost there, were I will give up on political process, but trying to do what I can....we all try to do what we can.....


    I'm going to have to disagree with you to an extent here Belloc. The Jesuits of La Civilta Cattolica discouraged the creation of Catholic parties and Catholics getting too involved with political like the Dems and Gop. Their distrust of Catholic parties was proven correct when the German Zentrum party went along with the Socialists in the creation of the Weimar Republic.


    I understand, what about the Christian Democrats,etc in nations like pre-WW2 Germany.......?

    By what manner do Cathollics get involved?


    I think Traditional Catholics should try to form Catholic pressure groups like AF. As far as Christian Democratic parties go, I see them as a pre-curser to the ecuмenism that we have today. In fact St. Pius X was no fan of Christian Democracy. Its difficult because pluralism and Catholicism don't mix. What we need is true conversions to the the true faith.
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