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Offline TheRealMcCoy

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Re: Rep. Thomas Massie
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 10:38:55 AM »
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  • I think Matthew needs to ban all your jokers who cite Grok as if it were reliabled.  Next you're going to be quoting Snopes.

    Come one people, and remove your heads from your own posteriors, would you?

    There is in fact evidence that Massie WAS at least at one time part of the Demolay Masonic group, though whether he actively participates to this day is up for debate.  But just because "Grok" says it's "baseless" (their favorite word that they weaponized against those who knew the 2020 election had been rigged), well, it's almost more likely that the opposite is true.  Demolay is geared toward youth from 12-21, so he would no longer be part of that group, though it's not unlikely that those who had been members were "sheep-dipped" into a deeper participation in Masonry but without it being publicly reported.

    General rule of thumb is that anybody who's anybody, or, basically, allowed to be anybody, by the Power that Be, either are controlled, either being paid off or blackmailed or both, or else they're allowed to get into office because they serve some purpose, whether (knowing or unknowingly) serving as a controlled opposition figure that people can falsely put their hopes in an therefore release the pressure of their frustrations in false hope, such as people who felt that way about Ron Paul.  They were never going to let Ron Paul go anywhere, but they used him to distract people into thinking he was their Great White Hope, as it were.  Then of course his son made the perfunctory visit to wail at the wall.

    It's what the whole Q operation was all about ... where people were pacified by the false hope presented by Q.

    In the case of Massie, we know that the majority of those who oppose Israel are Leftists, so they're not going to support Massie for other reasons ... wihch means that Massie is already divided-and-conquered, and you can be sure that he got the message loud and clear after the sudden death of his wife ... after which a Jew boasted publicly that he hopes that as a result of his wife's death Massie had learned his lesson (and undoubtedly was told his children were next through less public channels).

    I've contacted his lodge and I'll post any response I get from them.  Perhaps he demitted but I think his voting record demonstrates his lack of principles.  His liberalism has surfaced since his wife passed.  And we Kentucky trads do care about snakes like Massie.  

    Offline Mat183

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    Re: Rep. Thomas Massie
    « Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 11:25:46 AM »
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  • I live in Kentucky and it's a well known fact he's Demolay so I don't need to rely on AI.  Masonry is very widespread here and accepted as part of the culture. You'd be hard pressed to find any successful businessman or politician in this state that isn't a mason. 

    Will you accept screenshots of the Demolay yearbooks with his photos and name in it?  Because I've requested to purchase one.

    You stated in your initial post that "he's a member of the lodge."  That's a declarative statement in the present tense, one stated as a fact.  I will continue to wait for your best evidence that Thomas Massie is indeed "a member of the lodge."


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    Re: Rep. Thomas Massie
    « Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 11:45:33 AM »
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  • You stated in your initial post that "he's a member of the lodge."  That's a declarative statement in the present tense, one stated as a fact.  I will continue to wait for your best evidence that Thomas Massie is indeed "a member of the lodge."
    He's literally a member of a masonic lodge, yes. It's not even hidden that he is. 

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    Re: Rep. Thomas Massie
    « Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 01:18:31 PM »
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  • He's literally a member of a masonic lodge, yes. It's not even hidden that he is.

    An extraordinary claim calls for extraordinary evidence.  What exactly is your best evidence?  Go for it!

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    Re: Rep. Thomas Massie
    « Reply #19 on: Yesterday at 03:25:56 PM »
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  • I took these screenshots myself.  Demolay International claims that Massie is a Senior Demolay in their official social media at going back at least to 2013.  Senior means he is still a member but is over 21.  Massie is tagged so he is aware of it.  He's a lawyer so if he didn't want this out there he knows how to get it taken down.  This is the same as if it was published in a newspaper or magazine from a legal perspective.  His failure to deny it is extraordinary evidence.  







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    Re: Rep. Thomas Massie
    « Reply #20 on: Yesterday at 06:25:02 PM »
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  • I took these screenshots myself.  Demolay International claims that Massie is a Senior Demolay in their official social media at going back at least to 2013.  Senior means he is still a member but is over 21.  Massie is tagged so he is aware of it.  He's a lawyer so if he didn't want this out there he knows how to get it taken down.  This is the same as if it was published in a newspaper or magazine from a legal perspective.  His failure to deny it is extraordinary evidence. 







    Sorry TheRealMcCoy, but this all falls far short of proving that Thomas Massie is a member of a Masonic lodge as you claimed that he is.

    Masonic lodges refer to adult Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ organizations (e.g., Blue Lodges), which require separate initiation and ongoing membership, typically starting at age 18 or 21. DeMolay International is a distinct Masonic-sponsored youth group for boys aged 12–21, and being affiliated with it—even as a "Senior DeMolay"—does not equate to being a Freemason or lodge member. Many DeMolay alumni join Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ later, but there is no automatic transition, and no public evidence confirms Massie has done so.

    What your post does prove (or at least strongly supports) is that DeMolay International has publicly recognized Massie as a "Senior DeMolay" alumnus from the Crimson Shield Chapter in Vanceburg, Kentucky, based on their official social media posts dating back to at least 2013 (e.g., congratulating him on elections and tagging him). "Senior DeMolay" is an honorary designation for former youth members who have aged out, often highlighting notable alumni for their achievements; it implies past participation in DeMolay but not current active membership in the youth group or any Masonic lodge. The post's screenshots and the user's logic (e.g., Massie was tagged and didn't deny it) provide circuмstantial evidence of this alumni status, but the interpretation that it means ongoing Masonic involvement is unsubstantiated speculation.

    In summary:
    • Proven: Massie has a docuмented historical tie to DeMolay as a youth, per the organization's own claims.
    • Not proven: Current or adult membership in Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ or a Masonic lodge—searches of public records, Wikipedia, official bios, and lists of notable Freemasons show no such confirmation, and claims to the contrary appear rooted in conspiracy-oriented online discussions conflating DeMolay with full Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.




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    Re: Rep. Thomas Massie
    « Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 06:37:09 PM »
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  • An extraordinary claim calls for extraordinary evidence.  What exactly is your best evidence?  Go for it!
    It's not extraordinary

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    Re: Rep. Thomas Massie
    « Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 06:41:35 PM »
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  • It's not extraordinary

    No problem.  I won't quibble.  So what exactly is your best evidence that Thomas Massie is in your own words, " literally a member of a masonic lodge"?


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    Re: Rep. Thomas Massie
    « Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 07:07:10 PM »
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  • Evidence looks pretty solid despite Mat's gratuitous denials.  While it's not absolutely certain, almost nothing in life has absolute certainty ... and this would appear to be morally certain, if for no other reason that the claim has been persistent and yet Massie has never denied them.  That's like when Bergoglio kept giving interviews to Scalfari where he was alleged to have said grossly heretical things, where Bergoglio never denied the allegations and in fact invited Scalfari back repeatedly.  One can be morally certain that Bergs said exactly what Scalfari reported ... even if there's no smoking gun.

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    Re: Rep. Thomas Massie
    « Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 07:32:39 PM »
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  • Evidence looks pretty solid despite Mat's gratuitous denials.  While it's not absolutely certain, almost nothing in life has absolute certainty ... and this would appear to be morally certain, if for no other reason that the claim has been persistent and yet Massie has never denied them. 

    Evidence, if you can call it that, looks pitifully/catastrophically weak despite Lad's gratuitous affirmations.  

    Ah, there you go again with one of your high grounds "morally certain," (albeit with the added weasel words "would appear") claims.  The fact of the matter Lad which apparently you can't bring yourself to admit is that there is no moral certainty whatsoever that Massie is presently a Freemason, that he presently is an actual member of a Freemasonic Lodge and it's reckless to claim that it "would appear to be morally certain" that he is.