Author Topic: Question about gαy Marriage (Read 645 times)

CatholicFan · « **on:** October 09, 2016, 11:12:42 PM »

Hello all!

I have a question about gαy marriage, and I'm wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction. I am fully aware that the Catholic Church always has been, and always will be, against gαy marriage and civil unions among ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs. However, I am a bit confused as to what direction the Church in America is hoping to go in after gαy marriage became legal in the U.S. in 2015.

Here's what I mean by this. If I understand correctly, the Catholic Church always has been, and always will be, opposed to the use of contraception. However, at the same time, the Church is not advocating for contraception to become illegal; instead, they just require Catholics to make the decision not to use it (despite the fact that it is legal).

Has this become the case with gαy marriage, or no? i.e. Is the Church fighting to repeal the Supreme Court's decision to legalize gαy marriage? Is the Church hoping that lay Catholics will start a movement to make gαy marriage illegal again? Or has this issue now become similar to how we view contraception - i.e., should we certainly continue to oppose gαy marriage, but not concern ourselves with trying to make it illegal?

I have searched the USCCB's website through and through and I can't seem to find anything directly answering my question. Any insight would be greatly appreciated! I am mainly looking for resources directly from the Church itself (as opposed to personal opinions).

Thanks, and God Bless!
Tony

MaterDominici · « **Reply #1 on:** October 10, 2016, 02:14:03 AM »

Churches in the US are not allowed to be involved in politics if they want to keep their tax-exempt status. It's up to the laypersons to fight for our laws to reflect the Truths of the Church.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 10, 2016, 10:21:14 AM »

Quote from: MaterDominici

Churches in the US are not allowed to be involved in politics if they want to keep their tax-exempt status. It's up to the laypersons to fight for our laws to reflect the Truths of the Church.

Thanks to Lyndon Baines Johnson when he was a senator from Texas in the
1950's. The original intent of the law was to go after communist propaganda.
Disguised as anti-government propaganda. The law was was latter extended
to all anti-government propaganda. However, Black Churches are not
included as long as the propaganda support the policies of the Democratic
Party and the Liberal agenda.
It is called IRS 501(c)(3).
For example, a church can lose its tax exemption for opposing abortion,
gαy marriages, truth about the Federal Reserves and other vital moral
issues from the pulpit can lose their tax exemption.

Geremia · « **Reply #3 on:** October 10, 2016, 02:26:38 PM »

This is why the Church should use its own currency, not the US$.

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #4 on:** October 10, 2016, 02:42:52 PM »

Quote from: Geremia

This is why the Church should use its own currency, not the US$.

Are you writing this after having 5 whiskey sours? How would that even work?

Centroamerica · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2016, 03:20:59 PM »

Quote from: JezusDeKoning

Quote from: Geremia
This is why the Church should use its own currency, not the US$.

Are you writing this after having 5 whiskey sours? How would that even work?

Ever heard of Muammar al-Gaddafi???

Geremia · « **Reply #6 on:** October 10, 2016, 07:29:40 PM »

Quote from: CatholicFan

gαy marriage

You mean: "sodomite unions"

Nadir · « **Reply #7 on:** October 10, 2016, 07:52:01 PM »

Quote from: CatholicFan

Hello all!

I have a question about gαy marriage, and I'm wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction. I am fully aware that the Catholic Church always has been, and always will be, against gαy marriage and civil unions among ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs. However, I am a bit confused as to what direction the Church in America is hoping to go in after gαy marriage became legal in the U.S. in 2015.

Here's what I mean by this. If I understand correctly, the Catholic Church always has been, and always will be, opposed to the use of contraception. However, at the same time, the Church is not advocating for contraception to become illegal; instead, they just require Catholics to make the decision not to use it (despite the fact that it is legal).

Has this become the case with gαy marriage, or no? i.e. Is the Church fighting to repeal the Supreme Court's decision to legalize gαy marriage? Is the Church hoping that lay Catholics will start a movement to make gαy marriage illegal again? Or has this issue now become similar to how we view contraception - i.e., should we certainly continue to oppose gαy marriage, but not concern ourselves with trying to make it illegal?

I have searched the USCCB's website through and through and I can't seem to find anything directly answering my question. Any insight would be greatly appreciated! I am mainly looking for resources directly from the Church itself (as opposed to personal opinions).

Thanks, and God Bless!
Tony

Tony, welcome!

Firstly, gαy marriage cannot be, because marriage can only exist between two people of opposite sex. If gαy marriage cannot exist, then any law which recognises "gαy marriage" is not a valid law in the eyes of the true Catholic Church. Don't confuse any Bishops' Conference with the true Catholic Church.

I don't know if we can say "the Catholic Church always has been against gαy marriage and civil unions among ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs", because I don't believe we have ever been faced with this aberation before. (I mean institutionalising sodomite liasons as "unions") Let's just say that "the Catholic Church forbids always has been, and always will be, against" sodomy.

Also, it is very important to make the distinction between what is legal and what is moral. In an anti-Christian nation the two just cannot coincide.

I think it is pretty safe to say that the Bishops' Conference is compromised and impotent, and so will not put Catholic principles ahead of love for money.

Of course, the Catholic laity must do everything it can to fight for a moral society that is safe to live in and raise families and each person is duty bound to do whatever each one can to achieve this. After all, we pray each day, Thy Kingdom come.

By the way, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and contraception are good parallels as both are aimed at participating in sɛҳuąƖ pleasure without the ultimate purpose of the raising up of children for God's Kingdom.

songbird · « **Reply #8 on:** October 10, 2016, 09:50:35 PM »

I do believe the bible says it from the very beginning. God created man and etc.

The New Order Church serves not God, but man/state and federal gov't. The New Order has not consecration and therefore, there are no sacraments. (except marriage).

New Order is pagan.plain and simple.

poche · « **Reply #9 on:** October 10, 2016, 11:10:28 PM »

The Catholic Church is against "gαy" marriage.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 11, 2016, 10:13:27 AM »

Quote from: poche

The Catholic Church is against "gαy" marriage.

A "gαy" marriage is not a marriage.