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Putin meets mothers of Russian troops
« on: November 25, 2022, 08:27:06 PM »
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  • I'm certainly not trying to lionize let alone canonize President Putin, but I don't recall any U.S. President going back all the way to Eisenhower ever actually sitting down with mothers of American troops during the Korean War, Vietnam War, Iraq Wars, or the Afghanistan War.  If you do I'd love to see some docuмentation on same.

    See https://www.rt.com/russia/567178-putin-mothers-russian-servicemen/

    Putin meets mothers of Russian troops
    The gathering included parents of soldiers involved in the military operation in Ukraine
    Putin meets mothers of Russian troops
    Russian President Vladimir Putin meets with mothers of Russia's servicemen participating in the military operation in Ukraine, ahead of Mother's Day at the Novo-Ogaryovo state residence, outside Moscow, Russia. ©  Sputnik / Alexander Shcherbak

    Russian President Vladimir Putin held a personal meeting on Friday with the mothers of Russian soldiers. He said that the country’s leadership, and he personally, regards their sons as heroes.

    Putin revealed that he proposed the meeting with the mothers of soldiers because he wanted to hear their opinions, their firsthand experiences and information they have received from the frontlines. “A lot of information comes to me from various sources, but your assessments, your opinions, ideas and suggestions – that's a completely different matter,” Putin said, adding that he will try to make sure that everything discussed during the meeting is taken into account and used in real life “to the maximum.”

    “We will do all we can so that you do not feel abandoned and will do everything that depends on us so that you feel a shoulder beside you,” the president stated.

    Putin commended the women for raising truly heroic young men, noting that their determination to serve their country was not the result of “any instructions and moralizing” but the result of the “personal example” set by their parents.
     
    The Russian leader stated that he sometimes speaks to servicemen personally on the phone, and that some of them have outright surprised him with their attitude towards performing their duty. “This gives me every reason to say that they are heroes,” Putin said.
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    The president went on to note that “life is more complex and diverse” than what is shown in the media and on the internet, noting that “nothing can be trusted there at all,” because of the extraordinary amount of fakes, lies, and deceit. “Information is also a weapon, and informational attacks are one the most effective types of warfare.” 

    The event had been previously announced by Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov, who explained that the meeting would be held in a free discussion format, without any set agenda.

    In September, President Putin ordered a partial military mobilization throughout the country, stating that calling some 300,000 reservists to arms was necessary to help the offensive in Ukraine. He explained that additional manpower was needed because Moscow is de facto confronting “the war machine of the collective West.”




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    Re: Putin meets mothers of Russian troops
    « Reply #1 on: November 25, 2022, 11:22:55 PM »
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  • Putin revealed that he proposed the meeting with the mothers of soldiers because he wanted to hear their opinions, their firsthand experiences and information they have received from the frontlines. “A lot of information comes to me from various sources, but your assessments, your opinions, ideas and suggestions – that's a completely different matter,” Putin said, adding that he will try to make sure that everything discussed during the meeting is taken into account and used in real life “to the maximum.”
    I noticed this since Putin's a career "intelligence analyst" and spy. A master of information files, and so forth, which reminded me of the spy and "intelligence" business in general. He's used to collecting information.

    Scotus says "intelligence cannot create a substance" in Opus Oxoniense, which is a curious statement. I don't have a copy of the book, but it could mean that intelligence doesn't necessarily have the correct will or formation to bring about real value which is from the good and leads to a good end for good reason. To some Scotus may have been a blind believer in will rather than intellect, but one of the values in accounting and business is goodwill. Putin should have worked on his goodwill value account a little more, because he's down river into this thing now, information and intelligence and a big mess, and he's created a lot of bad will that hurts his bottom line maybe the most. And according to some estimetes, he was worth maybe 200 billion going into this.



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    Re: Putin meets mothers of Russian troops
    « Reply #3 on: November 26, 2022, 12:30:22 AM »
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  • Breaking News -- President Putin has just set up heavily armed bases in Mexico, Cuba, Canada, and Bermuda!  Russian nuke armed battleships are roaming freely around the Caribbean Sea and off the U.S. Atlantic and Pacific coasts as well as in the waters around Hawaii and Alaska.  Not to worry, however, Putin has given the world abundant assurances that these are all just defensive measures and that he just means to protect the 3 aforesaid nations from unwarranted aggression by the U.S.A.

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    Re: Putin meets mothers of Russian troops
    « Reply #4 on: November 26, 2022, 08:48:22 AM »
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  • Breaking News -- President Putin has just set up heavily armed bases in Mexico, Cuba, Canada, and Bermuda!  Russian nuke armed battleships are roaming freely around the Caribbean Sea and off the U.S. Atlantic and Pacific coasts as well as in the waters around Hawaii and Alaska.  Not to worry, however, Putin has given the world abundant assurances that these are all just defensive measures and that he just means to protect the 3 aforesaid nations from unwarranted aggression by the U.S.A.

    You're totally not being a sensationalistic, fear-mongering shill that is obviously lying. Not even good at your job. 
    One day at a time.


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    Re: Putin meets mothers of Russian troops
    « Reply #5 on: November 26, 2022, 01:14:08 PM »
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  • You're totally not being a sensationalistic, fear-mongering shill that is obviously lying. Not even good at your job.

    That post was obviously a bit of satire, so your accusation of his being a "fear-mongering shill" just demonstrates a lack of keen intellect on your part.  You seem to use the term "shill" of everyone whose opinions you don't agree with.  Just because some people believe that China poses a threat to the West doesn't make them "shills".  That's a commonly-held opinion, with which you are entitled to disagree, but calling them shills based on a single post (you're pretty new here) hollows out your accusation.

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    Re: Putin meets mothers of Russian troops
    « Reply #6 on: November 26, 2022, 03:08:37 PM »
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  • That post was obviously a bit of satire, so your accusation of his being a "fear-mongering shill" just demonstrates a lack of keen intellect on your part.  You seem to use the term "shill" of everyone whose opinions you don't agree with.  Just because some people believe that China poses a threat to the West doesn't make them "shills".  That's a commonly-held opinion, with which you are entitled to disagree, but calling them shills based on a single post (you're pretty new here) hollows out your accusation.

    The shilling and disinfo on this board is so thick I can practically deep fry food through the screen. It's not demonstrating "a lack of keen intellect" on my part, you are simply underestimating how easily some people can be deceived.

    Funny that you don't think advertising that Putin is meeting with soldiers' mothers and suggesting that no recent presidents have ever done this is shilling, but me calling it out garbage, low effort propaganda is just so "hollow."

    I don't throw the accusations of "shill" often, barely ever really, I give people the benefit of the doubt, but from my short time on this board, it's glaringly obvious it's dominated by shills, disinfo, distractions, and fear mongering.
    One day at a time.

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    Re: Putin meets mothers of Russian troops
    « Reply #7 on: November 26, 2022, 03:50:54 PM »
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  • Yeah, buddy, my internet and literary theory's based on the abyss, "abyssus abyssum invocat".

    Putin asks babushka, "how's the sledgehammer, big mama?"


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    Re: Putin meets mothers of Russian troops
    « Reply #8 on: December 10, 2022, 06:14:42 AM »
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  • Breaking News -- President Putin has just set up heavily armed bases in Mexico, Cuba, Canada, and Bermuda!  Russian nuke armed battleships are roaming freely around the Caribbean Sea and off the U.S. Atlantic and Pacific coasts as well as in the waters around Hawaii and Alaska.  Not to worry, however, Putin has given the world abundant assurances that these are all just defensive measures and that he just means to protect the 3 aforesaid nations from unwarranted aggression by the U.S.A.
    I don't think they get the irony here how we're surrounding Russia in the same way, not just them but Iran and China too, We surround and threaten everyone around the world and then point to them as the "aggressors", complete chutzpah, the U.S. has been taught well by their Jєω masters.

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    Re: Putin meets mothers of Russian troops
    « Reply #9 on: December 10, 2022, 06:17:58 AM »
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  • Francis weeps for Ukraine:

    https://gloria.tv/post/9hPnJ4NVNZ6M3YPvqaZ9v1BEh 

    :popcorn:

    Reminds me of this scene (But better acting):

     
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    Re: Putin meets mothers of Russian troops
    « Reply #10 on: December 10, 2022, 06:25:57 AM »
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  • Francis weeps for Ukraine:

    https://gloria.tv/post/9hPnJ4NVNZ6M3YPvqaZ9v1BEh

    :popcorn:

    Reminds me of this scene (But better acting):


    Sure Frank. But China can go to hell right now.

    This guy is such a bad actor, it's not even funny.

    Go take another clot shot fatso.::)