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Offline alaric

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Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2021, 06:35:48 PM »
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  • Tɾυmρ was an operative who had a role to play ... and he played it very well.

    I could go into a long list of things he "accomplished".
    I still really don't believe he's a willing collaborator but He is full of himself in thinking he's relevant more than he is on the grand scheme of things.

    I would think you would have to produce some kind of facts or evidence that he was "role-playing" for 4 yrs.


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    « Reply #16 on: July 11, 2021, 07:43:30 PM »
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  • The only person I would vote for at this point in a 2024 run is DeSantis. Tɾυmρ had his chance and decided to get on his knees for Israel. I'm not even confident that DeSantis could sort out Washington, but it's better than another 4 years of Tɾυmρ Derangement Syndrome or "President Kamala".
    DeSantis should wait until 2028. He's polling really well right now in Florida, both currently and for next year's election. It would be better for him to win, serve a full term and then focus on a presidential run.
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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #17 on: July 11, 2021, 08:30:35 PM »
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  • I still really don't believe he's a willing collaborator but He is full of himself in thinking he's relevant more than he is on the grand scheme of things.

    I would think you would have to produce some kind of facts or evidence that he was "role-playing" for 4 yrs.

    Come on now, this is the internet, no facts nor evidence is necessary.  :laugh1:
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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #18 on: July 14, 2021, 04:12:17 PM »
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  • So we now have more innocent American civilian lives lost to the shot than to 911...

    and Trump wants FULL CREDIT for it.

    He wants to be known as the "FATHER OF THE VACCINE".

    "If it wasn't for me there would be no vaccine."

    "Pausing for 6 women is stupid."

    He is the snake with the snakebite.

    He told us so on the campaign trail.

    In Israel they call him Cyrus.

    Cyrus allowed the Jєωs back into Babylon to rebuild the temple.

    I believe the third temple is the human body.

    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #19 on: July 14, 2021, 04:30:13 PM »
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  • So we now have more innocent American civilian lives lost to the shot than to 911...

    and Tɾυmρ wants FULL CREDIT for it.

    He wants to be known as the "FATHER OF THE VACCINE".

    "If it wasn't for me there would be no vaccine."

    "Pausing for 6 women is stupid."

    He is the snake with the snakebite.

    He told us so on the campaign trail.

    In Israel they call him Cyrus.

    Cyrus allowed the Jєωs back into Babylon to rebuild the temple.

    I believe the third temple is the human body.
    And, according to Kabbalah belief, the goal is androgeny.
    The Seal of Solomon star of Israel is the "chalice and the phallus"...
    a symbol of androgeny.
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #20 on: July 14, 2021, 05:06:07 PM »
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  • Even if Pope St. Pius X was running for President in 2024, why would anyone waste their time voting for him, knowing the vote is rigged?

    Slow learners.

    :facepalm:
    Because I'm not certain they have an infinite ability to rig.
    Barring that absolute certainty I lose very little by voting

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    « Reply #21 on: July 14, 2021, 05:41:48 PM »
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  • As far as it goes, it seems to me that Matthew went too far in on Trump and now is having buyers remorse

    I remember thinking even back then that I did not think Trump was as red pill as some people thought. In many ways, I still think that. I think Trump was an ordinary Boomer American who loved America but didn't understand the full picture. I suppose it's possible he was really a wolf in  sheep's clothing but I haven't seen any proof.

    And by the way I have no idea what Trump could have done about the steal if he wanted to.  I suspect he was reliant on pence to refuse to certify the results, and pence stabbed him in the back. Of course, I have no proof here either.

    I see Ron DeSantis in a similar light to Trump. The GOP is still effectively run by boomers, so I do not expect to see JQ based stuff too often. Yeah, all of these guys are way too pro israel.  That doesn't necessarily mean they're actively malicious any more than a lot of our grandparents are, moral people who support socially conservative values and have some ignorance on some of the big picture on stuff. I'm not saying the misguidedness is excusable, but that doesn't mean that they're actively malicious. Could just be ignorant. Usually are in the case the common people. I think that's also the case for people like Trump.

    I will say that I would feel infinitely safer from something like a federal vaccine passport under Trump or DeSantis then right now. Trump also got our hands a lot less dirty in the Middle East than any president in our living memory



    DeSantis has stood firm against the covid regime in Florida. No I can't promise he won't cave. He hasn't caved yet.

    Trump gave way too much power to fauci, though he also gave him a lot less power than he seemed to want, and I'm fairly confident, less power than a George Bush or Romney or whoever would have. Certainly demonstrably less than Biden has. Note that as soon as Biden became president we had a federal mask mandate.  Trump basically didn't enforce any covid policy federally. Now some might complain he didn't do anything to stop it in the states. At the end of the day that's how the Constitution works. Now maybe you could make the argument that we're so far gone that that shouldn't matter anymore, that we should use the full power of the executive office to push our own agenda since that's what our enemies do. Yeah, I'm at that point myself, which is why I'm not a boomer lol. But again that goes back to the whole naivety thing.

    I would still much rather have someone like Trump or DeSantis at the helm and therefore I would vote for them if given the opportunity

    This is different from neocons like McCain, Romney, George w Bush, etc. In most respects I would not prefer them in power over a Democrat. In most cases they're pretty much the same. In some ways I would prefer someone like Bernie Sanders over a George w Bush. In pretty much every way I would prefer a Tulsi gabbard. So I think there is still a huge difference between the Trump Republicans and the neocon crowd. That doesn't mean the Trump Republicans are great. They're still way too bluepilled




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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #22 on: July 14, 2021, 05:57:56 PM »
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  • Well any lifelong friend of Epstein is a friend of...

    "Jeffrey is a great guy who loves beautiful women as much as I do and he likes them young." Trump

    You can look up photos and videos of them partying together for decades.

    Melania too.

    And Trump is on the Lolita Express flight log and Jeffrey was on Trump's plane.

    And Trump held the Bible upside down in his photo shoot.

    And his two mentors (according to him the ones who taught him everything) are wonderful people:

    33rd degree Mason Norman Vincent Peale

    and 

    Roy Cohn
    "One of the most despicable men to ever live".

    DeSantis just passed a bill in Florida allowing for FORCED vaccinations.



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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #23 on: July 14, 2021, 10:18:29 PM »
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  • Well any lifelong friend of Epstein is a friend of...

    "Jeffrey is a great guy who loves beautiful women as much as I do and he likes them young." Tɾυmρ

    You can look up photos and videos of them partying together for decades.

    Melania too.

    And Tɾυmρ is on the Lolita Express flight log and Jeffrey was on Tɾυmρ's plane.

    And Tɾυmρ held the Bible upside down in his photo shoot.

    And his two mentors (according to him the ones who taught him everything) are wonderful people:

    33rd degree Mason Norman Vincent Peale

    and

    Roy Cohn
    "One of the most despicable men to ever live".

    DeSantis just passed a bill in Florida allowing for FORCED vaccinations.
    Source on the DeSantis thing?  I hadn't heard that.

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    « Reply #24 on: July 14, 2021, 10:40:55 PM »
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  • Source on the DeSantis thing?  I hadn't heard that.
    Unfortunately he appears to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.  He also pushed the anti-semitic speech laws.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/florida-bill-banning-vaccine-passports-allows-to-vaccinate-citizens/msg755203/#msg755203
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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #25 on: July 15, 2021, 05:23:18 AM »
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  • Well any lifelong friend of Epstein is a friend of...

    "Jeffrey is a great guy who loves beautiful women as much as I do and he likes them young." Tɾυmρ

    You can look up photos and videos of them partying together for decades.

    Melania too.

    And Tɾυmρ is on the Lolita Express flight log and Jeffrey was on Tɾυmρ's plane.

    And Tɾυmρ held the Bible upside down in his photo shoot.

    And his two mentors (according to him the ones who taught him everything) are wonderful people:

    33rd degree Mason Norman Vincent Peale

    and

    Roy Cohn
    "One of the most despicable men to ever live".

    DeSantis just passed a bill in Florida allowing for FORCED vaccinations.
    can you post a news article on Desantis passing forced vax bill? I live in FL and I’ve not seen anything 


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    « Reply #26 on: July 15, 2021, 05:50:23 AM »
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  • can you post a news article on Desantis passing forced vax bill? I live in FL and I’ve not seen anything
    Sorry, I guess the link doesn't work so I'll paste the post from RomanCatholic1953 here:
    Florida Bill “Banning Vaccine Passports” Actually Allows State To “Use Any Means Necessary to ναccιnαte” Citizens
    Published: June 26, 2021
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    An overlooked section of Florida Senate Bill 2006, put into law by the state legislature and Governor Ron DeSantis on May 3, 2021, allows government officials to forcibly ναccιnαte citizens.
    Ironically, the bill was widely supported as it was allegedly intended to ban vaccine passports in Florida.
    “In Florida, your personal choice regarding vaccinations will be protected and no business or government entity will be able to deny you services based on your decision,” DeSantis told Floridians.
    While the legislature does prohibit private businesses and government entities from asking for proof of a CÖVÌD vaccination, it also allows the state to ναccιnαte citizens “by any means necessary”.
    Under Section 315 of Chapter 381 of Florida’s ‘Public Health’ statute, Title XXIX, individuals can be subjected to quarantine or isolation if they refuse to be examined, tested, ναccιnαted or treated during a public health emergency such as CÖVÌD-19.
    “Examination, testing, vaccination, or treatment may be performed by any qualified person authorized by the State Health Officer,” the bill explains.
    The bill continues, “If the individual poses a danger to the public health, the State Health Officer may subject the individual to isolation or quarantine. If there is no practical method to isolate or quarantine the individual, the State Health Officer may use any means necessary to ναccιnαte or treat the individual.”
    Only your patronage to our store is what keeps this beacon of truth lit in the controlled-narrative darkness.
    The legislature says any order given to police by the State Health Officer that helps force-ναccιnαte a person is immediately enforceable.
    In addition, volunteers who help the state ναccιnαte or quarantine people will be provided with lodging, transportation, state liability protection and workers’ compensation.
    When it comes to Florida, the “State Health Officer” would be the state’s Surgeon General Scott Rivkees.
    While it was signed by Governor DeSantis on May 3rd, the bill won’t actually take effect until July 1, 2021.
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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #27 on: July 15, 2021, 06:34:58 AM »
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  • can you post a news article on Desantis passing forced vax bill? I live in FL and I’ve not seen anything
    Found this:

    https://freeflorida.me/thread/451-law-signed-by-desantis-will-allow-for-forced-vaccinations/

    It says the executive order that banned vaccine passports does allow for forced vaccinations.

    If his interpretation is correct, then this just shows that these politicians on either side can't be trusted.  Why anyone is still talking about taking part and voting for any candidate in The American Farce is beyond me.
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    « Reply #28 on: July 15, 2021, 07:05:50 AM »
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  • Found this:

    https://freeflorida.me/thread/451-law-signed-by-desantis-will-allow-for-forced-vaccinations/

    It says the executive order that banned vaccine passports does allow for forced vaccinations.

    If his interpretation is correct, then this just shows that these politicians on either side can't be trusted.  Why anyone is still talking about taking part and voting for any candidate in The American Farce is beyond me.
    Exactly!!!
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    « Reply #29 on: July 15, 2021, 08:36:18 AM »
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  • Exactly!!!
    Gov. DeSantis did not sign into law forced vaccination. This (unfortunately) has been in law for almost 20 years now. Pre Desantis. It allows the Health Department under a state of emergency, if they deem necessary, to use any force necessary, quarantine, isolate or vaccinate an individual. Health Freedom Florida has been fighting to remove this language for years. More recently, FFK and other health freedom grass roots have also joined this fight to remove this language. Last session Legislator Anthony Sabatini created a bill (HB6003) which struck out the word vaccine under the existing law. It did not move through a single committee. Legislators had the opportunity to do this and get it to Densatis. They failed to take action. If we are Constitutionalist we would understand that is how law making works. Thus, the calls need to be into the legislators demanding to know why they kept this in place. Regarding the amendment SB2006; this section referenced was amended to support the protection for schools, businesses and government agencies from using “vaccine passports” or proof of vaccination docuмentation. There was value in this last minute modification. It’s important to note under this section legislators also struck out a mute word and that is being used to create the image that this forced vaccination was added. We need to be factual here or we become part of the misinformation campaign. Simply stated, Desantis did not put into law forced vaccines.

    Considerations; why is this being pushed out now? Bill was signed a while ago. Why after DeSantis announces re-election? Why are we being mislead? What’s the goal? Things to ask. Or quite possibly being pushed for pressure to get this law removed? Possibly. And that’s a possibility. But again we still need to be factual.