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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: Matthew on July 10, 2021, 09:24:46 AM
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This conservative gathers together the real problems with Tɾυmρ that would have to be sorted out BEFORE Republicans/conservatives place their faith in Tɾυmρ again.
I don't think these questions will EVER be properly addressed. Pretty hopeless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRB7bKcQkwo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRB7bKcQkwo)
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Only thing I can say about Donald Trump: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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The only person I would vote for at this point in a 2024 run is DeSantis. Trump had his chance and decided to get on his knees for Israel. I'm not even confident that DeSantis could sort out Washington, but it's better than another 4 years of Trump Derangement Syndrome or "President Kamala".
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Only thing I can say about Donald Tɾυmρ: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
That's what I'm thinking.
That's why I posted the video. It really does catalogue some of the deep problems with Tɾυmρ. I don't think he meant it to be that much of a blackpill for Tɾυmρ, but that's how I take it.
There is NO WAY Tɾυmρ is going to satisfactorily answer those questions/issues.
Which means, we need to vote for someone else, or not at all.
The biggest deal-breaker for me was Tɾυmρ's giving such power to Fauci, brown-nosing Isr**l, promoting the CÖVÌD hoax and vaccines, kowtowing to the Deep State and Liberals, not fighting enough, taking The Steal lying down, etc. Wait, that's several.
With the Q nonsense it was always "Two More Weeks". Oh, and don't forget "4-D Chess". Tɾυmρ is a meme. I'm not falling for it again.
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The only person I would vote for at this point in a 2024 run is DeSantis. Tɾυmρ had his chance and decided to get on his knees for Israel. I'm not even confident that DeSantis could sort out Washington, but it's better than another 4 years of Tɾυmρ Derangement Syndrome or "President Kamala".
DeSantis is surrounded by Shekelmasters too.
Nobody can sort out Washington.
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I will vote for Christ the King again.
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Trump was an operative who had a role to play ... and he played it very well.
I could go into a long list of things he "accomplished".
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It shouldn't be DeSantis. Absolutely not.
Why? He's running for reelection next year (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Florida_gubernatorial_election) and is not only endorsed by Trump, but has a very cushy lead over a year before anything. If they like him, he could be in Tallahassee for 3, 4, 5 terms.
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It shouldn't be DeSantis. Absolutely not.
Why? He's running for reɛƖɛctıon next year (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Florida_gubernatorial_ɛƖɛctıon) and is not only endorsed by Tɾυmρ, but has a very cushy lead over a year before anything. If they like him, he could be in Tallahassee for 3, 4, 5 terms.
In Florida, a person cannot hold the governorship for more than 8 years in any 12 year period.
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Even if Pope St. Pius X was running for President in 2024, why would anyone waste their time voting for him, knowing the vote is rigged?
Slow learners.
:facepalm:
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The only person I would vote for at this point in a 2024 run is DeSantis. Tɾυmρ had his chance and decided to get on his knees for Israel. I'm not even confident that DeSantis could sort out Washington, but it's better than another 4 years of Tɾυmρ Derangement Syndrome or "President Kamala".
You don't think the media would go into DeSantis derangement syndrome?
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Tɾυmρ was an operative who had a role to play ... and he played it very well.
I could go into a long list of things he "accomplished".
I prefer to believe he just wasn’t as bright as I thought him to be. More importantly, he over estimated his abilities while under estimating his enemies ruthlessness. I don’t believe he ever interiorized true moral principles, but rather used them as a guide to secure his base. He was a bit of an opportunist who had some good intentions.
It seems to me that to the “powers that be”, he was a thorn in their side whom they were manipulating from day one. Unfortunately, he failed miserably.
Would I vote for him a third time? Possibly, but only if there were some assurances that the voting system was fixed, obviously in a good way😂, but I HIGHLY doubt it.
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You don't think the media would go into DeSantis derangement syndrome?
Perhaps. He at least is far more of an articulate speaker and more calculating in his decisions, being an actual politician versus a real estate mogul. It would be nice to have someone with the directness of Trump with the tact and principles of a DeSantis.
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The only person I would vote for at this point in a 2024 run is DeSantis. Tɾυmρ had his chance and decided to get on his knees for Israel. I'm not even confident that DeSantis could sort out Washington, but it's better than another 4 years of Tɾυmρ Derangement Syndrome or "President Kamala".
DeSantis flew to Israel to sign an anti-BDS bill that makes it illegal to criticize Israel, so I don't see how he is any different than Trump in that regard.
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The only person I would vote for at this point in a 2024 run is DeSantis. Tɾυmρ had his chance and decided to get on his knees for Israel. I'm not even confident that DeSantis could sort out Washington, but it's better than another 4 years of Tɾυmρ Derangement Syndrome or "President Kamala".
If they could REMOVE Trump, they could surely block DeSantis.
Probably only amount of time before they take DeSantis out before the election.
We are dealing with people who rule the planet right now.
The global covid-scam/ U.S. election theft should enlighten the dullest minds that neither U.S. politicians or the electorate are calling the shots right now. It is indeed our planetary overlords.
They showed us in November just how insignificant "we the people" or our Constitution really is.
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Tɾυmρ was an operative who had a role to play ... and he played it very well.
I could go into a long list of things he "accomplished".
I still really don't believe he's a willing collaborator but He is full of himself in thinking he's relevant more than he is on the grand scheme of things.
I would think you would have to produce some kind of facts or evidence that he was "role-playing" for 4 yrs.
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The only person I would vote for at this point in a 2024 run is DeSantis. Tɾυmρ had his chance and decided to get on his knees for Israel. I'm not even confident that DeSantis could sort out Washington, but it's better than another 4 years of Tɾυmρ Derangement Syndrome or "President Kamala".
DeSantis should wait until 2028. He's polling really well right now in Florida, both currently and for next year's election. It would be better for him to win, serve a full term and then focus on a presidential run.
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I still really don't believe he's a willing collaborator but He is full of himself in thinking he's relevant more than he is on the grand scheme of things.
I would think you would have to produce some kind of facts or evidence that he was "role-playing" for 4 yrs.
Come on now, this is the internet, no facts nor evidence is necessary. :laugh1:
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So we now have more innocent American civilian lives lost to the shot than to 911...
and Trump wants FULL CREDIT for it.
He wants to be known as the "FATHER OF THE VACCINE".
"If it wasn't for me there would be no vaccine."
"Pausing for 6 women is stupid."
He is the snake with the snakebite.
He told us so on the campaign trail.
In Israel they call him Cyrus.
Cyrus allowed the Jєωs back into Babylon to rebuild the temple.
I believe the third temple is the human body.
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So we now have more innocent American civilian lives lost to the shot than to 911...
and Tɾυmρ wants FULL CREDIT for it.
He wants to be known as the "FATHER OF THE VACCINE".
"If it wasn't for me there would be no vaccine."
"Pausing for 6 women is stupid."
He is the snake with the snakebite.
He told us so on the campaign trail.
In Israel they call him Cyrus.
Cyrus allowed the Jєωs back into Babylon to rebuild the temple.
I believe the third temple is the human body.
And, according to Kabbalah belief, the goal is androgeny.
The Seal of Solomon star of Israel is the "chalice and the phallus"...
a symbol of androgeny.
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Even if Pope St. Pius X was running for President in 2024, why would anyone waste their time voting for him, knowing the vote is rigged?
Slow learners.
:facepalm:
Because I'm not certain they have an infinite ability to rig.
Barring that absolute certainty I lose very little by voting
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As far as it goes, it seems to me that Matthew went too far in on Trump and now is having buyers remorse
I remember thinking even back then that I did not think Trump was as red pill as some people thought. In many ways, I still think that. I think Trump was an ordinary Boomer American who loved America but didn't understand the full picture. I suppose it's possible he was really a wolf in sheep's clothing but I haven't seen any proof.
And by the way I have no idea what Trump could have done about the steal if he wanted to. I suspect he was reliant on pence to refuse to certify the results, and pence stabbed him in the back. Of course, I have no proof here either.
I see Ron DeSantis in a similar light to Trump. The GOP is still effectively run by boomers, so I do not expect to see JQ based stuff too often. Yeah, all of these guys are way too pro israel. That doesn't necessarily mean they're actively malicious any more than a lot of our grandparents are, moral people who support socially conservative values and have some ignorance on some of the big picture on stuff. I'm not saying the misguidedness is excusable, but that doesn't mean that they're actively malicious. Could just be ignorant. Usually are in the case the common people. I think that's also the case for people like Trump.
I will say that I would feel infinitely safer from something like a federal vaccine passport under Trump or DeSantis then right now. Trump also got our hands a lot less dirty in the Middle East than any president in our living memory
DeSantis has stood firm against the covid regime in Florida. No I can't promise he won't cave. He hasn't caved yet.
Trump gave way too much power to fauci, though he also gave him a lot less power than he seemed to want, and I'm fairly confident, less power than a George Bush or Romney or whoever would have. Certainly demonstrably less than Biden has. Note that as soon as Biden became president we had a federal mask mandate. Trump basically didn't enforce any covid policy federally. Now some might complain he didn't do anything to stop it in the states. At the end of the day that's how the Constitution works. Now maybe you could make the argument that we're so far gone that that shouldn't matter anymore, that we should use the full power of the executive office to push our own agenda since that's what our enemies do. Yeah, I'm at that point myself, which is why I'm not a boomer lol. But again that goes back to the whole naivety thing.
I would still much rather have someone like Trump or DeSantis at the helm and therefore I would vote for them if given the opportunity
This is different from neocons like McCain, Romney, George w Bush, etc. In most respects I would not prefer them in power over a Democrat. In most cases they're pretty much the same. In some ways I would prefer someone like Bernie Sanders over a George w Bush. In pretty much every way I would prefer a Tulsi gabbard. So I think there is still a huge difference between the Trump Republicans and the neocon crowd. That doesn't mean the Trump Republicans are great. They're still way too bluepilled
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Well any lifelong friend of Epstein is a friend of...
"Jeffrey is a great guy who loves beautiful women as much as I do and he likes them young." Trump
You can look up photos and videos of them partying together for decades.
Melania too.
And Trump is on the Lolita Express flight log and Jeffrey was on Trump's plane.
And Trump held the Bible upside down in his photo shoot.
And his two mentors (according to him the ones who taught him everything) are wonderful people:
33rd degree Mason Norman Vincent Peale
and
Roy Cohn
"One of the most despicable men to ever live".
DeSantis just passed a bill in Florida allowing for FORCED vaccinations.
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Well any lifelong friend of Epstein is a friend of...
"Jeffrey is a great guy who loves beautiful women as much as I do and he likes them young." Tɾυmρ
You can look up photos and videos of them partying together for decades.
Melania too.
And Tɾυmρ is on the Lolita Express flight log and Jeffrey was on Tɾυmρ's plane.
And Tɾυmρ held the Bible upside down in his photo shoot.
And his two mentors (according to him the ones who taught him everything) are wonderful people:
33rd degree Mason Norman Vincent Peale
and
Roy Cohn
"One of the most despicable men to ever live".
DeSantis just passed a bill in Florida allowing for FORCED vaccinations.
Source on the DeSantis thing? I hadn't heard that.
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Source on the DeSantis thing? I hadn't heard that.
Unfortunately he appears to be a wolf in sheep's clothing. He also pushed the anti-semitic speech laws.
https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/florida-bill-banning-vaccine-passports-allows-to-vaccinate-citizens/msg755203/#msg755203
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Well any lifelong friend of Epstein is a friend of...
"Jeffrey is a great guy who loves beautiful women as much as I do and he likes them young." Tɾυmρ
You can look up photos and videos of them partying together for decades.
Melania too.
And Tɾυmρ is on the Lolita Express flight log and Jeffrey was on Tɾυmρ's plane.
And Tɾυmρ held the Bible upside down in his photo shoot.
And his two mentors (according to him the ones who taught him everything) are wonderful people:
33rd degree Mason Norman Vincent Peale
and
Roy Cohn
"One of the most despicable men to ever live".
DeSantis just passed a bill in Florida allowing for FORCED vaccinations.
can you post a news article on Desantis passing forced vax bill? I live in FL and I’ve not seen anything
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can you post a news article on Desantis passing forced vax bill? I live in FL and I’ve not seen anything
Sorry, I guess the link doesn't work so I'll paste the post from RomanCatholic1953 here:
Florida Bill “Banning Vaccine Passports” Actually Allows State To “Use Any Means Necessary to ναccιnαte” Citizens
Published: June 26, 2021
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An overlooked section of Florida Senate Bill 2006, put into law by the state legislature and Governor Ron DeSantis on May 3, 2021, allows government officials to forcibly ναccιnαte citizens.
Ironically, the bill was widely supported as it was allegedly intended to ban vaccine passports in Florida.
“In Florida, your personal choice regarding vaccinations will be protected and no business or government entity will be able to deny you services based on your decision,” DeSantis told Floridians.
While the legislature does prohibit private businesses and government entities from asking for proof of a CÖVÌD vaccination, it also allows the state to ναccιnαte citizens “by any means necessary”.
Under Section 315 of Chapter 381 of Florida’s ‘Public Health’ statute, Title XXIX, individuals can be subjected to quarantine or isolation if they refuse to be examined, tested, ναccιnαted or treated during a public health emergency such as CÖVÌD-19.
“Examination, testing, vaccination, or treatment may be performed by any qualified person authorized by the State Health Officer,” the bill explains.
The bill continues, “If the individual poses a danger to the public health, the State Health Officer may subject the individual to isolation or quarantine. If there is no practical method to isolate or quarantine the individual, the State Health Officer may use any means necessary to ναccιnαte or treat the individual.”
Only your patronage to our store is what keeps this beacon of truth lit in the controlled-narrative darkness.
The legislature says any order given to police by the State Health Officer that helps force-ναccιnαte a person is immediately enforceable.
In addition, volunteers who help the state ναccιnαte or quarantine people will be provided with lodging, transportation, state liability protection and workers’ compensation.
When it comes to Florida, the “State Health Officer” would be the state’s Surgeon General Scott Rivkees.
While it was signed by Governor DeSantis on May 3rd, the bill won’t actually take effect until July 1, 2021.
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can you post a news article on Desantis passing forced vax bill? I live in FL and I’ve not seen anything
Found this:
https://freeflorida.me/thread/451-law-signed-by-desantis-will-allow-for-forced-vaccinations/
It says the executive order that banned vaccine passports does allow for forced vaccinations.
If his interpretation is correct, then this just shows that these politicians on either side can't be trusted. Why anyone is still talking about taking part and voting for any candidate in The American Farce is beyond me.
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Found this:
https://freeflorida.me/thread/451-law-signed-by-desantis-will-allow-for-forced-vaccinations/
It says the executive order that banned vaccine passports does allow for forced vaccinations.
If his interpretation is correct, then this just shows that these politicians on either side can't be trusted. Why anyone is still talking about taking part and voting for any candidate in The American Farce is beyond me.
Exactly!!!
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Exactly!!!
Gov. DeSantis did not sign into law forced vaccination. This (unfortunately) has been in law for almost 20 years now. Pre Desantis. It allows the Health Department under a state of emergency, if they deem necessary, to use any force necessary, quarantine, isolate or vaccinate an individual. Health Freedom Florida has been fighting to remove this language for years. More recently, FFK and other health freedom grass roots have also joined this fight to remove this language. Last session Legislator Anthony Sabatini created a bill (HB6003) which struck out the word vaccine under the existing law. It did not move through a single committee. Legislators had the opportunity to do this and get it to Densatis. They failed to take action. If we are Constitutionalist we would understand that is how law making works. Thus, the calls need to be into the legislators demanding to know why they kept this in place. Regarding the amendment SB2006; this section referenced was amended to support the protection for schools, businesses and government agencies from using “vaccine passports” or proof of vaccination docuмentation. There was value in this last minute modification. It’s important to note under this section legislators also struck out a mute word and that is being used to create the image that this forced vaccination was added. We need to be factual here or we become part of the misinformation campaign. Simply stated, Desantis did not put into law forced vaccines.
Considerations; why is this being pushed out now? Bill was signed a while ago. Why after DeSantis announces re-election? Why are we being mislead? What’s the goal? Things to ask. Or quite possibly being pushed for pressure to get this law removed? Possibly. And that’s a possibility. But again we still need to be factual.
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Gov. DeSantis did not sign into law forced vaccination. This (unfortunately) has been in law for almost 20 years now. Pre Desantis. It allows the Health Department under a state of emergency, if they deem necessary, to use any force necessary, quarantine, isolate or ναccιnαte an individual. Health Freedom Florida has been fighting to remove this language for years. More recently, FFK and other health freedom grass roots have also joined this fight to remove this language. Last session Legislator Anthony Sabatini created a bill (HB6003) which struck out the word vaccine under the existing law. It did not move through a single committee. Legislators had the opportunity to do this and get it to Densatis. They failed to take action. If we are Constitutionalist we would understand that is how law making works. Thus, the calls need to be into the legislators demanding to know why they kept this in place. Regarding the amendment SB2006; this section referenced was amended to support the protection for schools, businesses and government agencies from using “vaccine passports” or proof of vaccination docuмentation. There was value in this last minute modification. It’s important to note under this section legislators also struck out a mute word and that is being used to create the image that this forced vaccination was added. We need to be factual here or we become part of the misinformation campaign. Simply stated, Desantis did not put into law forced vaccines.
Considerations; why is this being pushed out now? Bill was signed a while ago. Why after DeSantis announces re-ɛƖɛctıon? Why are we being mislead? What’s the goal? Things to ask. Or quite possibly being pushed for pressure to get this law removed? Possibly. And that’s a possibility. But again we still need to be factual.
Didn't the bill DeSantis signed reinforce the right to force vaccinate and quarantine?
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Didn't the bill DeSantis signed reinforce the right to force ναccιnαte and quarantine?
To my knowledge, it did not, this was all pre-Desantis. What I understand is since this is already on the books, Desantis could order forced vax in order for this to take place, which is unlikely from what we've seen from Desantis to date. All the more important this language gets removed or heavily altered which Rep. Sabatini will be pushing forward in September and, hopefully, this time the legislature does the right thing. We don't know how lucky we were here that Gillum did NOT win the Governorship. I don't anticipate Desantis losing next year...but no one saw Trump losing either so...
Again, this is my understanding after seeing an interview with Sabatini
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To my knowledge, it did not, this was all pre-Desantis. What I understand is since this is already on the books, Desantis could order forced vax in order for this to take place, which is unlikely from what we've seen from Desantis to date. All the more important this language gets removed or heavily altered which Rep. Sabatini will be pushing forward in September and, hopefully, this time the legislature does the right thing. We don't know how lucky we were here that Gillum did NOT win the Governorship. I don't anticipate Desantis losing next year...but no one saw Trump losing either so...
Again, this is my understanding after seeing an interview with Sabatini
DeSantis hasn’t done anything during his tenure to amend this legislation.
Don’t hold your breath.
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DeSantis hasn’t done anything during his tenure to amend this legislation.
Don’t hold your breath.
I don't think he can arbitrarily go in the bill and fix that specific line, in order for anyone to proceed with a forced vax, he'd have to issue the order. I totally understand where you're coming from Sean and I hope I'm not coming across as a shill for him, though I think he's done more good than bad. That said, Sabatini is supposed to reintroduce legislation in 2 months so that may, or may not, have something to do with why Desantis hasn't said too much about that specifically. Time will tell, right now he has my vote...life is always subject to change, however.
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Gov. DeSantis did not sign into law forced vaccination. This (unfortunately) has been in law for almost 20 years now. Pre Desantis. It allows the Health Department under a state of emergency, if they deem necessary, to use any force necessary, quarantine, isolate or ναccιnαte an individual. Health Freedom Florida has been fighting to remove this language for years. More recently, FFK and other health freedom grass roots have also joined this fight to remove this language. Last session Legislator Anthony Sabatini created a bill (HB6003) which struck out the word vaccine under the existing law. It did not move through a single committee. Legislators had the opportunity to do this and get it to Densatis. They failed to take action. If we are Constitutionalist we would understand that is how law making works. Thus, the calls need to be into the legislators demanding to know why they kept this in place. Regarding the amendment SB2006; this section referenced was amended to support the protection for schools, businesses and government agencies from using “vaccine passports” or proof of vaccination docuмentation. There was value in this last minute modification. It’s important to note under this section legislators also struck out a mute word and that is being used to create the image that this forced vaccination was added. We need to be factual here or we become part of the misinformation campaign. Simply stated, Desantis did not put into law forced vaccines.
Considerations; why is this being pushed out now? Bill was signed a while ago. Why after DeSantis announces re-ɛƖɛctıon? Why are we being mislead? What’s the goal? Things to ask. Or quite possibly being pushed for pressure to get this law removed? Possibly. And that’s a possibility. But again we still need to be factual.
Wasn’t he also the first one in the country to declare the “state of emergency” to be over?
That bill requires a “state of emergency” to force ναccιnαte.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXONlwgHyiU&t=262s
I find it annoying how a site like Gateway Pundit does not address the things in that video. They have been pretty much 100% on target on the fake pandemic, and yet they still refuse to say a word about the fact that it was their dear TRUMP who made it all possible, especially the poisons.
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In this day and age, I find it hard to believe that anyone elected/selected President of this country will have any sort of independence to do or pursue anything other than what the real masters behind the scenes want him to.
Trump seemed to be this "outsider" who would dispel that idea, and now we see what a big fat fake he turned out to be.
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I don't think Trump was the swamp. He merely allowed the swamp to persist, thus breaking his promise to drain it.
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I don't think Trump was the swamp. He merely allowed the swamp to persist, thus breaking his promise to drain it.
He benefited from some aspects of the swamp. That's why the accusation that he was part of the swamp is able to stick to him. But I think he truly is a patriot. Definitely a mixed bag. I'm not sure we will ever get a completely trustworthy president until the entire country converts from pagan savagery to the Catholic Church.
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https://news.yahoo.com/majority-thinks-second-line-hαɾɾιs-172600787.html (https://news.yahoo.com/majority-thinks-second-line-hαɾɾιs-172600787.html)
No one thinks Kamala hαɾɾιs, the first affirmative-actioned vice president ever, would be a good president. She's probably the nominee, but does Trump have a chance at winning in 3 years?
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https://news.yahoo.com/majority-thinks-second-line-hαɾɾιs-172600787.html (https://news.yahoo.com/majority-thinks-second-line-hαɾɾιs-172600787.html)
No one thinks Kamala hαɾɾιs, the first affirmative-actioned vice president ever, would be a good president. She's probably the nominee, but does Trump have a chance at winning in 3 years?
They will steal it like last time.
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In this day and age, I find it hard to believe that anyone elected/selected President of this country will have any sort of independence to do or pursue anything other than what the real masters behind the scenes want him to.
Trump seemed to be this "outsider" who would dispel that idea, and now we see what a big fat fake he turned out to be.
I tend to believe you are correct