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Offline Miser Peccator

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Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2021, 09:27:45 AM »
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  • Gov. DeSantis did not sign into law forced vaccination. This (unfortunately) has been in law for almost 20 years now. Pre Desantis. It allows the Health Department under a state of emergency, if they deem necessary, to use any force necessary, quarantine, isolate or ναccιnαte an individual. Health Freedom Florida has been fighting to remove this language for years. More recently, FFK and other health freedom grass roots have also joined this fight to remove this language. Last session Legislator Anthony Sabatini created a bill (HB6003) which struck out the word vaccine under the existing law. It did not move through a single committee. Legislators had the opportunity to do this and get it to Densatis. They failed to take action. If we are Constitutionalist we would understand that is how law making works. Thus, the calls need to be into the legislators demanding to know why they kept this in place. Regarding the amendment SB2006; this section referenced was amended to support the protection for schools, businesses and government agencies from using “vaccine passports” or proof of vaccination documentation. There was value in this last minute modification. It’s important to note under this section legislators also struck out a mute word and that is being used to create the image that this forced vaccination was added. We need to be factual here or we become part of the misinformation campaign. Simply stated, Desantis did not put into law forced vaccines.

    Considerations; why is this being pushed out now? Bill was signed a while ago. Why after DeSantis announces re-ɛƖɛctıon? Why are we being mislead? What’s the goal? Things to ask. Or quite possibly being pushed for pressure to get this law removed? Possibly. And that’s a possibility. But again we still need to be factual.
    Didn't the bill DeSantis signed reinforce the right to force vaccinate and quarantine?

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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #31 on: July 15, 2021, 10:31:02 AM »
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  • Didn't the bill DeSantis signed reinforce the right to force ναccιnαte and quarantine?
    To my knowledge, it did not, this was all pre-Desantis. What I understand is since this is already on the books, Desantis could order forced vax in order for this to take place, which is unlikely from what we've seen from Desantis to date. All the more important this language gets removed or heavily altered which Rep. Sabatini will be pushing forward in September and, hopefully, this time the legislature does the right thing. We don't know how lucky we were here that Gillum did NOT win the Governorship. I don't anticipate Desantis losing next year...but no one saw Trump losing either so...
    Again, this is my understanding after seeing an interview with Sabatini


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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #32 on: July 15, 2021, 10:53:20 AM »
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  • To my knowledge, it did not, this was all pre-Desantis. What I understand is since this is already on the books, Desantis could order forced vax in order for this to take place, which is unlikely from what we've seen from Desantis to date. All the more important this language gets removed or heavily altered which Rep. Sabatini will be pushing forward in September and, hopefully, this time the legislature does the right thing. We don't know how lucky we were here that Gillum did NOT win the Governorship. I don't anticipate Desantis losing next year...but no one saw Trump losing either so...
    Again, this is my understanding after seeing an interview with Sabatini
    DeSantis hasn’t done anything during his tenure to amend this legislation.
    Don’t hold your breath.
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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #33 on: July 15, 2021, 12:40:53 PM »
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  • DeSantis hasn’t done anything during his tenure to amend this legislation.
    Don’t hold your breath.
    I don't think he can arbitrarily go in the bill and fix that specific line, in order for anyone to proceed with a forced vax, he'd have to issue the order. I totally understand where you're coming from Sean and I hope I'm not coming across as a shill for him, though I think he's done more good than bad. That said, Sabatini is supposed to reintroduce legislation in 2 months so that may, or may not, have something to do with why Desantis hasn't said too much about that specifically. Time will tell, right now he has my vote...life is always subject to change, however.

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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #34 on: July 17, 2021, 09:37:59 AM »
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  • Gov. DeSantis did not sign into law forced vaccination. This (unfortunately) has been in law for almost 20 years now. Pre Desantis. It allows the Health Department under a state of emergency, if they deem necessary, to use any force necessary, quarantine, isolate or ναccιnαte an individual. Health Freedom Florida has been fighting to remove this language for years. More recently, FFK and other health freedom grass roots have also joined this fight to remove this language. Last session Legislator Anthony Sabatini created a bill (HB6003) which struck out the word vaccine under the existing law. It did not move through a single committee. Legislators had the opportunity to do this and get it to Densatis. They failed to take action. If we are Constitutionalist we would understand that is how law making works. Thus, the calls need to be into the legislators demanding to know why they kept this in place. Regarding the amendment SB2006; this section referenced was amended to support the protection for schools, businesses and government agencies from using “vaccine passports” or proof of vaccination documentation. There was value in this last minute modification. It’s important to note under this section legislators also struck out a mute word and that is being used to create the image that this forced vaccination was added. We need to be factual here or we become part of the misinformation campaign. Simply stated, Desantis did not put into law forced vaccines.

    Considerations; why is this being pushed out now? Bill was signed a while ago. Why after DeSantis announces re-ɛƖɛctıon? Why are we being mislead? What’s the goal? Things to ask. Or quite possibly being pushed for pressure to get this law removed? Possibly. And that’s a possibility. But again we still need to be factual.
    Wasn’t he also the first one in the country to declare the “state of emergency” to be over?

    That bill requires a “state of emergency” to force ναccιnαte.


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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #35 on: July 17, 2021, 09:52:57 AM »
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  • I find it annoying how a site like Gateway Pundit does not address the things in that video. They have been pretty much 100% on target on the fake pandemic, and yet they still refuse to say a word about the fact that it was their dear TRUMP who made it all possible, especially the poisons.

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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #36 on: July 17, 2021, 10:39:58 AM »
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  • In this day and age, I find it hard to believe that anyone elected/selected President of this country will have any sort of independence to do or pursue anything other than what the real masters behind the scenes want him to.

    Trump seemed to be this "outsider" who would dispel that idea, and now we see what a big fat fake he turned out to be.

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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #37 on: July 17, 2021, 01:38:32 PM »
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  • I don't think Trump was the swamp.  He merely allowed the swamp to persist, thus breaking his promise to drain it.


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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #38 on: July 17, 2021, 01:47:01 PM »
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  • I don't think Trump was the swamp.  He merely allowed the swamp to persist, thus breaking his promise to drain it.
    He benefited from some aspects of the swamp.  That's why the accusation that he was part of the swamp is able to stick to him.  But I think he truly is a patriot.  Definitely a mixed bag.  I'm not sure we will ever get a completely trustworthy president until the entire country converts from pagan savagery to the Catholic Church.

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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #39 on: July 20, 2021, 07:25:00 PM »
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  • https://news.yahoo.com/majority-thinks-second-line-hαɾɾιs-172600787.html

    No one thinks Kamala hαɾɾιs, the first affirmative-actioned vice president ever, would be a good president. She's probably the nominee, but does Trump have a chance at winning in 3 years?
    Have been using website blocks to deliberately limit my time here and now realize that the break needs to basically be permanent. 

    This forum isn’t for me anymore And it takes up too much time. God bless you all!

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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #40 on: July 20, 2021, 07:33:10 PM »
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  • https://news.yahoo.com/majority-thinks-second-line-hαɾɾιs-172600787.html

    No one thinks Kamala hαɾɾιs, the first affirmative-actioned vice president ever, would be a good president. She's probably the nominee, but does Trump have a chance at winning in 3 years?
    They will steal it like last time. 
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    Re: Problems with Tɾυmρ, and a 2nd Tɾυmρ Presidency
    « Reply #41 on: July 20, 2021, 08:06:50 PM »
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  • In this day and age, I find it hard to believe that anyone elected/selected President of this country will have any sort of independence to do or pursue anything other than what the real masters behind the scenes want him to.

    Trump seemed to be this "outsider" who would dispel that idea, and now we see what a big fat fake he turned out to be.
    I tend to believe you are correct 


     

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