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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: 2Vermont on September 11, 2024, 07:05:45 AM
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Full Debate: hαɾɾιs vs. Trump in 2024 Presidential Debate | WSJ (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgsC_aBquUE)
I only watched a portion of this last night. I do agree with those on X who are saying that the moderators were clearly biased in their "fact checking" of Trump and not hαɾɾιs. But no surprise there. It was 3 vs 1.
I also noticed that both had a tough time actually answering the question.
Any other thoughts? Please provide timestamps, if possible.
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Any other thoughts? Please provide timestamps, if possible.
A lot, but it'll take some time to formulate my response.
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He really needed not to go off on that tangent about immigrants eating cats. The old canard about the "undesirable other" eating animals contrary to prevailing social sensibilities has been around forever. In the town where I grew up, they claimed that, during WWII, an Italian restaurateur made his spaghetti sauce with cat meat. Nil novi sub soli.
And "Marxist" is a term with a fairly precise definition. Not shilling for hαɾɾιs, but she would have been well-advised to ask Trump "can you explain to all of us exactly what a Marxist is, and why you think I am one?".
She put a lot of airy platitudes out there, but Americans have never been ones to drill deep into the thinking of those whom they choose to lead them. This is a country where image is everything.
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Correct. Can you go to work at a private business? Grocery shop at a private business supplied by the free market? Bank at a private business? Go home and watch media that freely and openly criticizes the state? You don't live in a Marxist state.
Same would apply for the people who think Trump is a "fascist". Both sides abuse media buzzwords for clicks and clout.
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I did not watch this one. Were there any funny moments? The last one was quite dull.
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Can you go to work at a private business? Grocery shop at a private business supplied by the free market? Bank at a private business? Go home and watch media that freely and openly criticizes the state? You don't live in a Marxist state.
The answer to your questions is NO, I could not do some of those things during the CCP -Fauchi virus shutdown. Also, only one news channel out of 10 or so openly criticizes the state.
Those who fail to see that we are living in an emerging marxist state are like the proverbial frogs in water. Only two things stand in the way of the revolution:the 2nd Amendment and millions of non-government weapons.
If they manage to steal another election and the Kommie Kamala puppet gets in --she has repeatedly stated that she plans a mandatory gun buyback. Next the banking system "collapses," cash is outlawed and the planned digital currency is implemented. Those who are not aware of this plan are simply not paying attention, not researching first source docuмents, or are paying to much attention to controlled opposition.
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I did not watch this one. Were there any funny moments? The last one was quite dull.
Trump said this, but you have to see the context.
Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border? . . . I would say we would both leave this debate right now. . . Go down to Washington, D.C. . . . The President of the United States, you'll get him out of bed. You'll wake him up at 4:00 in the afternoon, you'll say come on. Come on down to the office, let's sign a bill. If he ... if he signs a bill that the border is closed, all he has to do is say it to the border patrol, who are phenomenal. If they do that, the border is closed.
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He really needed not to go off on that tangent about immigrants eating cats.
https://youtu.be/rvZTr3F_YZI
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He really needed not to go off on that tangent about immigrants eating cats. The old canard about the "undesirable other" eating animals contrary to prevailing social sensibilities has been around forever. In the town where I grew up, they claimed that, during WWII, an Italian restaurateur made his spaghetti sauce with cat meat. Nil novi sub soli.
And "Marxist" is a term with a fairly precise definition. Not shilling for hαɾɾιs, but she would have been well-advised to ask Trump "can you explain to all of us exactly what a Marxist is, and why you think I am one?".
She put a lot of airy platitudes out there, but Americans have never been ones to drill deep into the thinking of those whom they choose to lead them. This is a country where image is everything.
I agree that Trump sometimes takes the rhetoric too far (and that was one of those times).
As for Kamala, she put a lot of airy platitudes out there ....and all without her black accent! Simply amazing.
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I thought the cats were the best part . Vintage Trump . Everything else was boring.
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Trump said this, but you have to see the context.
Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border? . . . I would say we would both leave this debate right now. . . Go down to Washington, D.C. . . . The President of the United States, you'll get him out of bed. You'll wake him up at 4:00 in the afternoon, you'll say come on. Come on down to the office, let's sign a bill. If he ... if he signs a bill that the border is closed, all he has to do is say it to the border patrol, who are phenomenal. If they do that, the border is closed.
I did see this part, and I totally LOLed.
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Trump said this, but you have to see the context.
Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border? . . . I would say we would both leave this debate right now. . . Go down to Washington, D.C. . . . The President of the United States, you'll get him out of bed. You'll wake him up at 4:00 in the afternoon, you'll say come on. Come on down to the office, let's sign a bill. If he ... if he signs a bill that the border is closed, all he has to do is say it to the border patrol, who are phenomenal. If they do that, the border is closed.
Sounds good. Maybe I'll check it out.
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https://youtu.be/rvZTr3F_YZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS-3QssVPeg
@ 1:33:25 here speaking of Haiti - https://youtu.be/JS-3QssVPeg?t=5605
This is all to sow chaos, division and disenfranchise your vote... as then it is much easier to install tyranny as tyranny beats chaos every time. This is why it needs to be too big to rig and Trump needs to win by a landslide just to get over the line IMO. Of course the people of Ohio are pissed, they have every right to be... this however is bigger than migrant opportunists IMO (which will have to be dealt with some way, stop the economic incentives and secure the border would be an obvious start) and as we see above, the US Deep State has had a hand in screwing over Haiti to begin with and by getting them into these states they can greatly disenfranchise your vote, notice too it's a State that voted for Trump, a bunch of non English speaking migrants with mail in ballots or whatever other skulduggery, I'm sure there will be someone there 'helping' them to vote for hαɾɾιs.
People like today's Democrat Party with those like hαɾɾιs and Biden are the very definition of destroying the Country so they can rule over the ashes IMO.
"Our lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."
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So yea, hαɾɾιs will never secure the border or stop the totally unfair economic incentives because they need mass migration to rig the election and sow chaos so that they can install their tyranny. Just like they knew they needed something like C0VlD in 2020 to make massive changes to the electoral process with mail in ballots etc (among other agendas too).
They also needed January 6 (with doors being opened and police officers lining the hallways for them, as I watched myself online before they started scrubbing the footage which contradicted their narrative) so that they could section off Biden's inauguration and thus the discrepancies there would not be as visible to the public.
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https://x.com/onegirltravel/status/1833416571097911530?s=46&t=yY6JbkiegjrKivhJsQZKVA
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He really needed not to go off on that tangent about immigrants eating cats. The old canard about the "undesirable other" eating animals contrary to prevailing social sensibilities has been around forever. In the town where I grew up, they claimed that, during WWII, an Italian restaurateur made his spaghetti sauce with cat meat. Nil novi sub soli.
And "Marxist" is a term with a fairly precise definition. Not shilling for hαɾɾιs, but she would have been well-advised to ask Trump "can you explain to all of us exactly what a Marxist is, and why you think I am one?".
She put a lot of airy platitudes out there, but Americans have never been ones to drill deep into the thinking of those whom they choose to lead them. This is a country where image is everything.
Sometimes I ponder how much of a big deal people make out of eating certain animals over KILLING BABIES.
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Sometimes I ponder how much of a big deal people make out of eating certain animals over KILLING BABIES.
Good point. It's part and parcel of the overall pet replacement. Pets are the new children.
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A lot, but it'll take some time to formulate my response.
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Just so you know Josh, although I don't always agree with your posts, I do think it is good to hear from those outside of the US about this.
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Full Debate: hαɾɾιs vs. Trump in 2024 Presidential Debate | WSJ (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgsC_aBquUE)
As others have said 3v1 and basically the very definition of 'boxed in'...
That being said, even though it was 3v1 the moderators were at least a bit more professional even though it was rigged for hαɾɾιs IMO. Nevertheless, the format was okay and the moderation was okay but I don't think anyone can pretend like those moderators were neutral or the questions were neutral, not sure they could ever be, so while it's good to do interviews with hostile interviewers to test your metal so to speak, you can't do all hostile interviews there needs to be some from your side too, so next debate should have someone like Tucker Carlson asking questions I think. That would be more fair IMO, do the coin toss for that if you like. Pretending that organisations like the ABC will be totally neutral is a fools errand IMO, they may try, but they simply cannot... neither would everyone believe it. At least they were not as bad as CNN.
1) Project 2025, Trump has spoken on this before saying that it wasn't him and neither have I read into this, don't know what it is I would be accepting or condemning. So why even bring it up? Is there something in particular about Project 2025 you object to and why not bring that up? Simply saying 'Project 2025' tells me nothing.
2) The 'pandemic' wasn't particularly good anywhere, Trump did take it seriously though at the beginning (which the Democrats condemned him as xenophobic for) Trump did push back with Hydroxychloroquine for example, but they totally ran roughshod over him as he isn't a medical professional and could not refute everything coming at him left right and centre... wish he fired Facui earlier though, nevertheless, I didn't know about Fauci at the time either... in a certain way, Trump has been exposing these snakes as he goes along. I'm glad he didn't try to take credit for 'warp speed' again... that's not something you want to tie yourself to and given RFK Jr there now, I think RFK Jr will be a good influence on that front going forward. If Trump came around on this issue he could really drive the point home in terms of Biden saying he would not mandate the jabs and then turning around and doing so, a liar and a criminal! Trump never mandated anything, which is a crime against humanity.
3) Talking about the economy, hαɾɾιs is Biden's right hand being VP and look at it, if you have a plan now then what did you do before and why didn't that work? Why would you put the same people who broke it in charge of fixing it again... if they had any sense or sound reasoning they would have done it by now.
4) Hey Kamala, in terms of Jan 6 can't look at his tweet because you guys took it down... you also waited until he put out that video telling the Protestors 'peacefully' and to 'go home' and 'respect law enforcement' and it was then you took it down... which was very interesting timing if you ask me...
5) Abortion:
Yes, put it back on hαɾɾιs and the Democrats radical murderous practices... something has to be done to try and turn this around... what do people think is growing within the womb of a mother? What point does life begin? Do you even ask those questions? What about partial birth abortion where the baby is practically born all bar the head and you stick a pair of scissors into the back of their neck cutting their spinal cord... what the hell is that! Gosnell did those... legally. There is a lot of disagreement here and Trump is not running for dictator, these things will need to be worked on over time, but to just throw our hands up in the air and allow the wholesale slaughter of the most innocent with no guardrails or care in the world whatsoever is barbaric. If your not sure a kid is hiding in a hay stack do you go poking around with a knife to find out?
As for after birth, Trump is right, Gosnell comes to mind... but they say it's "illegal" yeah if they get caught, which they have in some cases.
Miscarriage is not an abortion and they all know this regardless of what terms people might use, if that's all your upset about then we can agree so what's the problem now?
Furthermore, if carrying to term and asking for abortion is not happening then why are you so adamant in protecting it?
6) The Student Loans reminds me of Yuri Bezmenov saying how they will promise all these goodies, never mind if they can deliver, all to put a big brother government in place.
7) In terms of IVF, this could mean so many things, now a lot of people think in terms of simply reproductive assistance but what about those choosing gender and trying to manipulate the genome to introduce other genes for eye colour or hair colour and thus trying to play God... so this is not a short answer question.
8) In fact it's dangerous to go to a Trump rally after the assassination attempt and people still go.
9) WWIII and eating the pets... now people criticise the 'pets' comment, nevertheless, Trump is in a box and he needed to get out of it, also a statement like that prompts people to look into it and they'll see it's a very serious problem with hαɾɾιs laughing as 'extreme' when they have totally screwed those people!... all Trump needs is one example.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Bezmenov)10) Afghanistan... absolutely correct. The books, exactly, because Trump is actually working hence he has made powerful enemies.
11) Nelson Mandela was also arrested and imprisoned in South Africa do you condemn him? Was he unfit for office? It says more about you than it does Trump.
12) As for fracking, did you run that by Greta Thunberg first?
13) The "I'm talking now does that sound familiar"... I missed the reference, can't recall where that was from?
14) January 6, Trump did send out tweets, and they waited for those tweets before they banned him from Twitter... now if you wanted to stop that then why didn't you leave those Tweets up? Also watched the footage of people removing barricades and police lining the hallways like a guard of honour and doors being opened, Ray Epps and so much more... 100% entrapment and fαℓѕє fℓαg. Started before he finished speaking which is also not logical for Trump supporters, the Trump supporters showed up after when the barricades were removed and doors were opened and they wondered in not realising it was total entrapment.
They also needed this fαℓѕє fℓαg to section off Biden's inauguration so that the discrepancies in that election would not be so obviously on display.
15) Charlottesville: Yes it's been debunked, but go on the attack next time, because not only was Trump right he was a prophet, they did start tearing down other statues like Thomas Jefferson and even Saints like St Junipero Serra. I'm no fan of Robert E. Lee... Ulysses S. Grant is the hero of that story, nevertheless, to object to statues being torn down by ignorant mobs is not neo-nαzι or white supremacist or whatever. That statue existed in large part due to Ulysses S. Grant IMO... because he knew superficial reprisals like that would not heal the nation... Just read about the surrender of Robert E. Lee to Ulysses S. Grant.
16) In terms of Israel... well Biden and hαɾɾιs have two wars going on now... I think I'll take Trumps record.
17) Putin endorsing Kamala... I don't think he meant it, nevertheless, what a joke all that Russia, Russia Russia has been over the years, so are you a Russian agent now Kamala? Can I use the same Russia, Russia Russia lies back at you now? Is that the sum total of 'Russian Election Interference'?
18) Ukraine win? What does that look like? What does 'winning' mean? They are likely going to be sold out from underneath them. Elections were cancelled, they're conscripting their people which means forcing them to fight against their will while at the same time pumping them with foreign weapons... so that's defending democracy?
19) Afghanistan, yes your not paying for that pointless war, your paying even more for another two wars... how on earth can she dare to criticise Trump or anyone else on such a topic as that... Trump handled that attack well IMO. Mike Pompeo I agree with Tucker Carlson is a snake.
18) I don't care what Kamala is either, but they are playing the race card which is why Trump brings it up... If people vote for her simply because of her skin colour and gender rather than the content of her character then they are the ones who are being racist and sexist.
19) Giving out more money... why not fix inflation... inflation is theft, so you steal their money with inflation and then give them handouts... how generous of you. Take $10 and give back $5 in 'generosity'. Same thing with the housing crisis, all by their hands with immigration and inflation, then look to big government handouts to get a little back of what they stole by their own hands? The wars and Ukraine money... someone paid for all that... the thing with fiat currency is that they don't have to go into your home and physically take it... you just turn around and find everything costs more and your money is worth less... they already stole it from you.
20) As for the guns thing, I didn't know Kamala was pro gun rights? Does the NRA endorse her now? (I'm sure others can find many contradictory video of Kamala on this issue).
21) As for Climate Change... given the new movie Twisters is now bringing this 'conspiracy theory' into the open... can we talk about Cloud Seeding now? Who the hell gave them permission for this? how long have they been doing it? what chemicals have they been using and how is it impacting us and why hasn't this been part of the 'climate scam' debate? All those years of blaming people for driving to work or eating meat and other such bullshit and here they are actively messing with it and when they screw up we get the blame.
22) Trumps closing statement was excellent IMO, hαɾɾιs is there right now and has been there for 3 and a half years... she's talking about I'll do this and that.
23) Somewhere along the way I missed the part where Trump said that they chucked Biden out like a dog and that they are toying and escalating toward WWIII and Nuclear Weapons... Trump was absolutely right to drive that home... now they are talking about lifting restrictions of western weapons striking within Russia... are these people mad? what the hell is wrong with these people? what the hell are you talking about you lunatics!
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https://youtu.be/rvZTr3F_YZI
I watched this video, and if indeed cats are being rounded up and kidnapped by these Haitians, could it be for pagan voodoo rituals, rather than for eating? Just a thought.
As to the geese, they are a perfectly legitimate game animal (if fatty and hard to dress and prepare), and eating them is nothing for anyone to get worked up about, beyond lamenting the social decline that would lead indigent and opportunistic people to hunt for wild game in an urban setting. No worse than eating wild rabbit or squirrel. At worst, the perpetrators might be cited for not having valid hunting licenses.
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I watched this video, and if indeed cats are being rounded up and kidnapped by these Haitians, could it be for pagan voodoo rituals, rather than for eating? Just a thought.
True, is that kind of demonic paganism prevalent among Haitians? Would make a lot of sense this one IMO.
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I watched this video, and if indeed cats are being rounded up and kidnapped by these Haitians, could it be for pagan voodoo rituals, rather than for eating? Just a thought.
Not the only place it's happening. It's increasing in the large marshlands around JFK Airport. https://x.com/CrimeInNYC/status/1832390299609403674 (https://x.com/CrimeInNYC/status/1832390299609403674)
As to where they're getting some of the animals in the middle of an urban area, these "vibrant" communities have live butcher shops in legal storefronts for everyday meat purchases. Whether the increase in suspicious carcasses is due to an influx of these people or to a stepped-up rate of these rituals isn't clear. Either way, something's seriously off.
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Also above, I forgot one more point that would be great if Trump were in a position to drive home... for all Kamala's talk about 'freedom' in regards to medical decisions with regard to abortion (decision/freedom to do what exactly?)... Biden and Kamala mandated an experimental and toxic jab in gross violation of the Nuremberg Code... Absolute criminals and hypocrites!
Anyone who died as a result and were coerced or forced have been murdered by Biden and Kamala and anyone who was injured were caused grievous bodily harm by Biden and Kamala. Criticise Trump all you want for warp speed but he never mandated them.
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I saw a bit of it, but I stopped when they started talking about people eating cats.
American comedy is not what it used to be.
This Kamala woman is no fun, and Trump has lost it. We need some young blood for funny elections. Even Biden was more entertaining.
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(https://i.natgeofe.com/n/e76f5368-6797-4794-b7f6-8d757c79ea5c/ng-logo-2fl.png?w=109&h=32) (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/)
Haiti: Possessed by Voodoo
In Haiti voodoo believers pray and perform animal sacrifices to feed and beckon the spirits. Then they dance until a spirit takes over their bodies
. . .One woman falls to the ground, convulsing for a moment before she is helped back to her feet. She resumes the dance, moving differently now, and continues dancing for hours. It is perhaps no longer she who is dancing: She is in a trance, apparently possessed by Erzuli, the great mother spirit.
It is an honor to be entered and "ridden" by a Loa, or spirit. In Haiti (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/destination/haiti) these rituals are commonplace: Voodoo is the dominant religion (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/article/gobeki-tepe).
"One common saying is that Haitians are 70 percent Catholic, 30 percent Protestant, and 100 percent voodoo," said Lynne Warberg, a photographer who has docuмented Haitian voodoo for over a decade.
In April 2003 an executive decree by then president Jean-Bertrand Aristide sanctioned voodoo as an officially recognized religion.
. . .During the ceremony, the houngan or mambo—priest or priestess—sacrifices a sanctified chicken or other animal to the Loa.
see also:
https://www.usasupreme.com/the-haitian-animal-eating-story-in-springfield-ohio-goes-waaaayy-deeper-video-exposes-scary-rituals-linked-to-illegal-immigrants/
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I did not watch this one. Were there any funny moments? The last one was quite dull.
Trump’s expressions!
She was boring.
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Not the only place it's happening. It's increasing in the large marshlands around JFK Airport. https://x.com/CrimeInNYC/status/1832390299609403674 (https://x.com/CrimeInNYC/status/1832390299609403674)
As to where they're getting some of the animals in the middle of an urban area, these "vibrant" communities have live butcher shops in legal storefronts for everyday meat purchases. Whether the increase in suspicious carcasses is due to an influx of these people or to a stepped-up rate of these rituals isn't clear. Either way, something's seriously off.
There have been voodoo, Santeria, and similar rituals performed in New York going back into the 1800’s. The location is linked to where the practitioners of those religions have settled. An acquaintance of mine worked for the MTA from the 1950’s-1990. Finding slaughtered chickens, goats, weird objects made of feathers, seeds, items of clothing, ribbons, keys, subway tokens, was a regular occurrence. In the 1980’s and 1990’s, when “the mole people” had huge encampments set up underground, a fairly common main dish was roasted “track rabbit.” I’ll leave it to the readers to figure out what it was.
The only instance of which I’ve heard of illegals dining on a pet was a group of Filipino men in Indiana roasting a dog to eat. To be fair, there ARE kinds of dogs eaten by rural Filipinos. In China, civets, a member of the cat family, are raised for meat. In various places, people eat monkeys, iguanas, snakes, capybaras (a kind of guinea pig)! In rural Cambodia, stir-fried baby tarantulas are eaten for snacks, just like we eat popcorn and chips.
I do think it would have been better for Trump if he hadn’t mentioned it. Most people misunderstand New York humor. No one should be worrying about threir cats and dogs being eaten by illegal migrants. They engage in far worse activities like human trafficking, theft on a grand scale, drugs, money laundering, and general out of control aggression on the innocent.
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I saw a bit of it, but I stopped when they started talking about people eating cats.
American comedy is not what it used to be.
Not only was Trump RIGHT about that... but it's WAY worse than what even he thinks... as others have outlined below that this is not out of hunger or desperation but rather demonic voodoo pagan rituals. I'm very glad Trump brought it up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDDMGC4NzNY
So like all the fact checkers... false because it didn't tick every single box... but also absolutely true and with demonic pagan voodoo practices prevalent in Haiti this sick stuff is absolutely going to happen and get worse with mass undocuмented migration. People like hαɾɾιs and her ilk live in gated communities and will never suffer the consequences of their evil deeds... those gated communities can never protect them forever though, the devil knows how to reward his own because if they do it with you they'll end up doing it to you.
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Trump’s expressions!
She was boring.
Also, in terms of funny, or 'excitement'... nothing about any of this is funny or exciting.
Imagine living in one of these communities in Ohio (and it will be coming to a place near you, just give it time), where they have shipped in thousands of foreigners with no background checks or anything, who you know some are practicing demonic voodoo paganism, your money is worth shit because they stole it from you, everything is more expensive because of their theft, some of your new neighbours are not only into demonic voodoo paganism but can't even speak English, they are also given government handouts while you get hardly anything and you know they will use these people to steal your vote too so you are voiceless.
There are not words to describe this level of evil. Biden, hαɾɾιs, Obama, the US Deep State and all their ilk are going down sooner or later, it's just a matter of when and how much immeasurable evil and destruction they will be able to cause beforehand. You can mitigate all this, but not if it's a joke and people don't take all this with the absolute seriousness it deserves.
That's just one topic, let alone the escalation in Ukraine toward WWIII and Nuclear Weapons given they are directing Ukraine and pushing for strikes deep within Russia with western made weapons like the f'kin' demonic lunatics they are. They have also totally screwed Ukraine too... cancelling elections, conscripting them to fight against their will with an endless supply of foreign made weapons and if they don't all manage to die, the nation is still sold out from underneath them... coming to a place near you.
"For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."
God Bless
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Trump’s expressions!
Yes! The only interesting part of the "debate".
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ABC whistleblower:
(1) Leading Report on X: "BREAKING: ABC whistleblower allegedly will release an affidavit claiming the hαɾɾιs campaign was given sample questions that were “essentially the same questions that were given during the debate,” as well as assurances that Trump would be “fact-checked” and she would not." / X (https://x.com/LeadingReport/status/1834303917208842424)
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ABC whistleblower:
(1) Leading Report on X: "BREAKING: ABC whistleblower allegedly will release an affidavit claiming the hαɾɾιs campaign was given sample questions that were “essentially the same questions that were given during the debate,” as well as assurances that Trump would be “fact-checked” and she would not." / X (https://x.com/LeadingReport/status/1834303917208842424)
Doesn't surprise me at all and this kind of thing barely scratches the surface IMO...
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