Author Topic: President Obamas Long Form Birth Certificate (Read 5866 times)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #30 on:** April 28, 2011, 09:27:10 PM »

Quote from: TKGS

That's because this is the first argument in which he has actually found a docuмent to back up his position.

Well, it is the authenticity of the doc that is at issue. From Karl Denninger:

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #31 on:** April 28, 2011, 09:28:08 PM »

Quote from: Vandaler

I guess I should have read the thread before intervening. It was already cleared up. sorry.

No worries, amigo :)

Thanks for doing the leg work...

herbert · « **Reply #32 on:** April 28, 2011, 09:36:58 PM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

Quote from: TKGS
That's because this is the first argument in which he has actually found a docuмent to back up his position.

Well, it is the authenticity of the doc that is at issue. From Karl Denninger:

check the video at 6:03 to 6:06

he doesn';t know how to pronounce "nuance"

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #33 on:** April 28, 2011, 09:48:01 PM »

If you have ever read or listened to Denninger, you know he is rather intelligent. His Market Ticker site is very well known among those who keep up with the ongoing financial armageddon. Mispronunciation is not a big deal, IMO -- especially if a man is talking while also doing something mechanical, manual, etc.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #34 on:** April 28, 2011, 09:50:14 PM »

Quote from: herbert

he doesn';t know how to pronounce "nuance"

This is an interesting comment coming from someone who did not:

1. capitalize the first word in his sentence
2. included a semicolon by accident, and
3. did not punctuate the end of his comment.

marasmius · « **Reply #35 on:** April 29, 2011, 10:11:10 AM »

There is something strange about Obama's newly released birth certificate.

The Barack Obama birth certificate released by the White House on 27/4/11 has exactly the
same time of birth 7:24 PM as the Kenyan birth certificate which is part of the Lucas Smith Affidavit which was filed with the United States District Court in Southern California on September 4, 2009,

Here is the White House Barack Obama birth certificate of 27/4/11

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

Here is a link to the Lucas Smith Affidavit and the Kenyan birth certificate

http://americangrandjury.org/lucas-smith-affidavit-now-filed-with-the-us-district-court-obama-kenyan-bc

Vandaler · « **Reply #36 on:** April 29, 2011, 10:33:44 AM »

Quote from: marasmius

The Barack Obama birth certificate released by the White House on 27/4/11 has exactly the
same time of birth 7:24 PM as the Kenyan birth certificate which is part of the Lucas Smith Affidavit which was filed with the United States District Court in Southern California on September 4, 2009.

Why is that strange ?

The forgery that was the Kenyan birth certificate would certainly include the same time of birth then the already released certificate of live birth.

marasmius · « **Reply #37 on:** April 29, 2011, 11:12:20 AM »

Thanks Vandaler that explains it.

lefebvre_fan · « **Reply #38 on:** April 29, 2011, 04:21:03 PM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

I saw that elsewhere, too -- and I do not care if you "discredit" me because it is not about me, nor do I claim to know the entire truth in this matter.

Yes, of course, I was merely addressing your arguments, not you personally. I just felt like saying that because some people on these forums can be a bit...touchy.

I agree with you that there are still some important questions left unanswered. Nevertheless, from everything I've seen and read so far, I can't help escaping the conclusion that either this birth certificate is a very careful forgery, or it's the real deal.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #39 on:** April 29, 2011, 09:14:10 PM »

At present, I am leaning toward its being a forgery.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185202

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #40 on:** April 29, 2011, 09:21:37 PM »

Quote from: Vandaler

Why is that strange ?

Denninger's comments about the time, etc:

Quote

Other curiosities include the fact that the time of birth is exactly the same on the (now-discredited - or is it?) Kenyan birth certificate that has been floating around the Internet, and that registration dates on the long-form match the Kenyan "forgery" as well. How did a purely fraudulent docuмent in a foreign nation happen to wind up with the exact same time of birth and certification dates as the alleged "real" certificate - if Hawaii never released the latter information until now? That's a hell of a coincidence. Yes, I know the time of birth was "out there." The certification dates were not, to the best of my ability to determine, public knowledge.

Vandaler · « **Reply #41 on:** April 29, 2011, 10:40:32 PM »

It's not really a hell of a coincidence, knowing that the certification date would be sometime shortly after the birth date. It's hardly worth a mention. Now, if the time of birth was not known, (but it was) that would be a hot coincidence since there is very low statistical chance for having it the same to the exactly down to the right to the exact minute.

But the date? *yawn*

I don't even understand what is implied anyway.

herbert · « **Reply #42 on:** May 01, 2011, 12:10:46 PM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

Quote from: herbert
he doesn';t know how to pronounce "nuance"

This is an interesting comment coming from someone who did not:

1. capitalize the first word in his sentence
2. included a semicolon by accident, and
3. did not punctuate the end of his comment.

i want to be your firend. but you also made a mistake: you put a period after the lest numbered item as if it was a sentence.

perfection is not possible in this world. its a sad reality but it must be so

marasmius · « **Reply #43 on:** May 01, 2011, 04:14:10 PM »

I came across this video on You Tube and it seems to offer new evidence for the Obama Long Form Birth Certificate released by the White House on 27/4/11 having been tampered with. I am not competent to know if this means anything and maybe someone will debunk this video later but it looks interesting at the moment.

мQmI

herbert · « **Reply #44 on:** May 01, 2011, 05:15:47 PM »

Quote from: marasmius

I came across this video on You Tube and it seems to offer new evidence for the Obama Long Form Birth Certificate released by the White House on 27/4/11 having been tampered with. I am not competent to know if this means anything and maybe someone will debunk this video later but it looks interesting at the moment.

мQmI

if the "b" fits you must convict!

that video shows pretty ocnclusively that the doc has been messed with

obama is one fishy dude