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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: St Frumentius on September 02, 2020, 11:24:36 PM
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https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/08/planned-parenthood-gets-more-than-600-million-dollars-a-year-from-the-federal-government/
The amount of funding that Planned Parenthood receives from the federal government continues to explode. When Barack Obama’s second term ended, Planned Parenthood was getting about 500 million dollars from the federal government each year, but now that number has risen to more than 600 million dollars each year. As a candidate for president in 2016, Donald Trump said that he would defund Planned Parenthood, but that has not happened. In fact, it is not even an issue that is being debated on the national stage in 2020. So Planned Parenthood will continue to be showered with money from the federal government no matter who wins the election in November, and hardly anyone in America is still talking about how deeply wrong this is.
Planned Parenthood gets more money from the federal government than anyone else by far. If that funding ever stopped, more than a third of Planned Parenthood’s budget would be wiped out and the organization would instantly be in massive financial trouble.
By handing them hundreds of millions of dollars a year, the federal government is implicitly endorsing what they are doing, and that is a national disgrace which will never be erased.
Of course some people are pointing to the fact that Planned Parenthood is no longer receiving Title X funding as a major victory. Last year, new regulations instituted by the Trump administration caused Planned Parenthood to decide to opt out of the Title X program…
Title X is a federal program that focuses on providing family planning and related preventive services to low-income Americans at little or no cost.
Last week, Planned Parenthood announced that rather than comply with the Trump administration’s new regulations relating to Title X’s federal family planning program, the abortion giant would stop participating in the program altogether unless the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals stepped in to block the regulations.
The court did no such thing, and now Planned Parenthood will no longer participate in the program.
By opting out of Title X, Planned Parenthood lost about 60 million dollars a year.
And that is certainly a good thing.
But that reduction in funding has been more than made up for by a massive increase in other federal funding. The following comes from a piece authored by Warren Cole Smith…
In Planned Parenthood’s FY 2018, the first year that would reflect a Trump Administration budget, Planned Parenthood received about $563.8-million in taxpayer funding. That level was a record for any administration in history, significantly more funding than Planned Parenthood got during any year of the Obama Administration. In fact, during the last year of the Obama Administration, funding had actually dropped by about $10-million, to the lowest level since 2014.
But in 2019, the Trump Administration broke its own record by a wide margin. Government reimbursements and grants to Planned Parenthood went up by more than $50-million, to $616.8-million. That funding level represents the single largest one-year jump in funding for Planned Parenthood in history.
So what this means is that Planned Parenthood is getting much more money from the federal government under the Trump administration than it ever did under the Obama administration.
Just think about that for a moment.
I used to tell people that it was such a horrible thing that Planned Parenthood was getting about 500 million dollars a year under the Obama administration, but until I did some research I did not even realize that Planned Parenthood is now getting more than 600 million dollars a year from the federal government under the Trump administration.
So yes, we should be thankful that Planned Parenthood has opted out of Title X funding, but with overall federal funding still rising we are in even worse shape then we were before. I really like how Students for Life President Kristan Hawkins summarized where things currently stand…
“The Trump Administration needs to uphold their promise to pro-life Americans and re-direct all current taxpayer funding of Planned Parenthood, to community health care centers that practice only non-violent healthcare. While we are grateful the Trump administration cut off the abortion Goliath’s illegal access to Title X funding, $600 million is left to go. The nation’s number one abortion vendor broke all previous records in taking money from taxpayers this year. Our Healthcare dollars should be invested with those who extend life and end suffering, not kill for a living,” she observed.
For decades, Republican members of Congress have gotten our votes by pledging to be “pro-life”, but every year most of those Republicans vote for budget bills that give Planned Parenthood hundreds of millions of dollars.
Every time they vote for such budget bills, they are literally cursing America.
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I'm sure most agencies are getting more money, due to inflation.
The Protect Life Rule in Feb. 2019 cut $60 million from them (not much), but the reinstatement of the Mexico City Policy blocked $8.8 billion from being used in overseas abortions (source (https://www.priestsforlife.org/elections/trump-prolife-accomplishments.aspx)).
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And a loaf of bread cost more during Trump's administration than Obama's, so lets blame Trump for that too!
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PP gets money from other grants, not just Title X. So, there can be other ways to cut back their$$. Isn't title v another?
Just know this we can stop some of this by the things we buy, and putting money into New Order. New Order uses the peoples money to support federal grants. Catholic Charities has many programs that hide PP. All New Order. All of the clergy know that New Order supports not only abortion but helped Obama to be elected and supporting ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. And be careful of organizations that say they are pro-life and promote the new order. Priests for Life and others who say how nice new order clergy are by name, saying they are pro-life. Clergy has nothing to offer. They bring death.
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PP gets money from other grants, not just Title X.
They withdrew from Title X. (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/planned-parenthood-officially-rejects-60m-in-tax-dollars-because-it-wants-to-keep-promoting-abortion)
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https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/08/planned-parenthood-gets-more-than-600-million-dollars-a-year-from-the-federal-government/
The amount of funding that Planned Parenthood receives from the federal government continues to explode. When Barack Obama’s second term ended, Planned Parenthood was getting about 500 million dollars from the federal government each year, but now that number has risen to more than 600 million dollars each year. .......................
Very interesting, we learn something every day. Thanks for the posting.
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And a loaf of bread cost more during Trump's administration than Obama's, so lets blame Trump for that too!
Nonsensical (and desperate) argument. Trump could have done something ... veto spending bills that have any funding for Planned Parenthood. I doubt they'd have enough votes to override. And then you have a government shutdown until it gets defunded.
This is in fact his fault that he's done nothing.
Trump is a fraud.
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See, if we had an actual CATHOLIC hierarchy, they would command that Catholics withhold paying all taxes until something like this got defunded.
They couldn't put that many people in jail.
I wonder how far we'd get in court if we tried to withhold paying taxes (declared ourselves Exempt) and then stated that we could not in conscience pay our taxes due to the funding of abortion.
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hmmm ... this guy seemed to win in court
https://www.miamiherald.com/article208905159.html
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I bet that if you took the money that you would have paid in taxes and put it aside into a separate savings account and declare that you'll hand it over the minute Planned Parenthood is defunded, they can't get you for evasion because then it's obvious that you're not doing it just to not pay your taxes, but truly out of principle.
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I bet that if you took the money that you would have paid in taxes and put it aside into a separate savings account and declare that you'll hand it over the minute Planned Parenthood is defunded, they can't get you for evasion because then it's obvious that you're not doing it just to not pay your taxes, but truly out of principle.
No offense meant, but if the government really wants to get you, no power on earth can stop it. Legal protections are ultimately no more than a polite fiction to be dispensed with when it suits their proprietor to do so.
You have said that Trump is a fraud, and I have said the very same thing. But he is something even worse: a lazy bastard. He lets his Jew son-in-law do his thinking for him, and he hasn't even troubled to learn who populates his Cabinet departments or how their ordinary everyday functioning burdens the lives and blights the hopes of actual (i.e., non-Jєωιѕн) Americans. All that his admirers hereabouts ever seem to do is endlessly repeat that he wasn't Hillary and he isn't Biden or Kamasutra hαɾɾιs. Yet if, as is likely, his performance in office continues to worsen, pretty soon I won't be the only one replying "so what?" to his fans' knee-jerk defense.
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https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/08/planned-parenthood-gets-more-than-600-million-dollars-a-year-from-the-federal-government/
But in 2019, the Trump Administration broke its own record by a wide margin. Government reimbursements and grants to Planned Parenthood went up by more than $50-million, to $616.8-million. That funding level represents the single largest one-year jump in funding for Planned Parenthood in history.
So if they threw another $50 mil onto the pile this year, would we finally get the hint? Only token resistance is allowed. I am certain that there are a lot of big companies that profit off of the sale of fetal organs, more than we know about.
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But I've been told that it's a mortal sin to sit out the election/write in a vote for Jesus Christ. :fryingpan:
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This destroys the double effect argument for Trump. Based on this new information, I hold that it would be a grave sin to vote for Trump. You cannot facilitate murder even if to prevent more murder.
Thank you for posting this.
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This destroys the double effect argument for Trump.
How so?
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Just because it’s a federal grant or fund, doesn’t mean the President has control over it. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn’t. To automatically infer that Trump is responsible shows a woeful lack of understanding of how complex the Fed bureaucracy is. Trump is not a king.
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The increase in Planned Parenthood funding is due to Medicaid reimbursement for health services.
Posted on another thread. This is certainly part of a law, not an executive/presidential decision.
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I bet that if you took the money that you would have paid in taxes and put it aside into a separate savings account and declare that you'll hand it over the minute Planned Parenthood is defunded, they can't get you for evasion because then it's obvious that you're not doing it just to not pay your taxes, but truly out of principle.
I have a friend who did something similar. He has withheld tax for about 30 years. He paid his tax money into a trust account held by a bishop with the undertaking that the money will be made available when our government ceases funding abortions. He won his case back in last century. He is disadvantaged however in that he cannot claim any govt. assistance, medical treatments, pensions etc. and struggles to survive, unable to possess a home or a bank account. He could be, with his skills and knowledge, a very wealthy man, but would rather his conscience be clear.
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Just because it’s a federal grant or fund, doesn’t mean the President has control over it. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn’t. To automatically infer that Trump is responsible shows a woeful lack of understanding of how complex the Fed bureaucracy is. Trump is not a king.
Nope, it's part of the government's annual budget. Trump has to veto it. One can be guilty of murder either by commission or by omission. In the very least, it's murder by omission. If Trump were to veto it and then it gets overriden, then it's not on him. Otherwise, it is. "I will not sign this budget until funding for PP is removed." He could also use Executive Orders to attempt to cut it off.
It's objectively a grave sin to vote for Trump under these circuмstances.
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How so?
I just explained. There are conditions in place for when and how allowing an evil to take place due to double effect is permitted, one of them being proportionality between the intended good and the unintended evil outcome. So you could argue abortion vs. sodomy, but abortion vs. abortion just doesn't work.
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Under the Trump Administration, Planned Parenthood performed a record number of abortions from 2018-2019, much of it with taxpayer funding. And, as this thread indicates the tax contribution increased by a record amount this past year.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/planned-parenthood-record-abortions-government-funding
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It's objectively a grave sin to vote for Trump under these circuмstances.
You’ve gone off the deep end on this. Ridiculously extreme.
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I have a friend who did something similar. He has withheld tax for about 30 years. He paid his tax money into a trust account held by a bishop with the undertaking that the money will be made available when our government ceases funding abortions. He won his case back in last century. He is disadvantaged however in that he cannot claim any govt. assistance, medical treatments, pensions etc. and struggles to survive, unable to possess a home or a bank account. He could be, with his skills and knowledge, a very wealthy man, but would rather his conscience be clear.
I have a friend who is a well known pro- life heroine that adopted 7 children with her husband . They make sure that their income is so low as to be non-taxable so they don't pay for abortions.
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I just explained. There are conditions in place for when and how allowing an evil to take place due to double effect is permitted, one of them being proportionality between the intended good and the unintended evil outcome. So you could argue abortion vs. sodomy, but abortion vs. abortion just doesn't work.
I am wondering if double effect can ever permit an evil when there is no necessity to act?
The classic example of double effect is five people are tied to one train track, and one person is tied to another train track. Trains approach the captives on each track. You are obliged to render assistance, but there is only time to untie those on one track or the other.
You choose to free the five, even though it will mean the death of the one.
You do not intend the evil effect to the one, and the good effect is 5x the evil effect (ie., satisfies the proportionality requirement).
But in this instance, acting was morally necessary and obligatory (ie., one would commit a grave sin to abstain from rendering assistance).
Voting, when there is no Catholic and/or moral candidate, is not obligatory (ie., there is no moral compulsion to act).
Therefore, does double effect even apply (ie., in the absence of necessity to act)?
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Nope, it's part of the government's annual budget. Trump has to veto it. One can be guilty of murder either by commission or by omission. In the very least, it's murder by omission. If Trump were to veto it and then it gets overriden, then it's not on him. Otherwise, it is. "I will not sign this budget until funding for PP is removed." He could also use Executive Orders to attempt to cut it off.
It's objectively a grave sin to vote for Trump under these circuмstances.
He's only tried to defund Planned Parenthood about a dozen times now. The courts and Congress have beaten him back each time.
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He's only tried to defund Planned Parenthood about a dozen times now. The courts and Congress have beaten him back each time.
And he continues to sign the budgets that come out with said funding. This is not enough. Simple fact is that Trump has signed into law budgets that include many millions of support for Planned Parenthood.
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I am wondering if double effect can ever permit an evil when there is no necessity to act?
The classic example of double effect is five people are tied to one train track, and one person is tied to another train track. Trains approach the captives on each track. You are obliged to render assistance, but there is only time to untie those on one track or the other.
You choose to free the five, even though it will mean the death of the one.
You do not intend the evil effect to the one, and the good effect is 5x the evil effect (ie., satisfies the proportionality requirement).
But in this instance, acting was morally necessary and obligatory (ie., one would commit a grave sin to abstain from rendering assistance).
Voting, when there is no Catholic and/or moral candidate, is not obligatory (ie., there is no moral compulsion to act).
Therefore, does double effect even apply (ie., in the absence of necessity to act)?
I'm not quite sure this would be double effect, since the one person who gets run over is not actually a direct effect of anything you actually did -- it's only indirect (by omission), but I'll think about your main point some more and give my thoughts later when I have more time to do it justice.
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I am wondering if double effect can ever permit an evil when there is no necessity to act?
I've wondered something similar: Does the principle of double-effect apply to supererogatory acts? (https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/q/70908/2014)
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"Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."
St. Francis of Assisi
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https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/trump-admin-moves-to-stop-foreign-orgs-who-receive-any-us-funding-from-promoting-abortion (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/trump-admin-moves-to-stop-foreign-orgs-who-receive-any-us-funding-from-promoting-abortion)
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https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/trump-admin-moves-to-stop-foreign-orgs-who-receive-any-us-funding-from-promoting-abortion (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/trump-admin-moves-to-stop-foreign-orgs-who-receive-any-us-funding-from-promoting-abortion)
Wow, Trump's officially more Catholic than the USCCB / CCHD (http://www.lepantoinstitute.org/cchd/).