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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: Cera on February 18, 2016, 05:06:24 PM
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Pope Francis forcefully injected himself into the U.S. presidential campaign on Thursday, assailing Republican candidate Donald Trump's views on U.S. immigration as "not Christian" in a sign of growing international concern at the billionaire businessman's prospects of winning the election.
Trump struck back, swiftly dismissing the leader of the world's Roman Catholics as "disgraceful" for questioning his faith.
"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian," Francis told reporters during a free-wheeling conversation on his flight home from a visit to Mexico.
No stranger to controversy, Trump, the longtime party front-runner in national opinion polls, has accused Mexico of sending rapists and drug runners across the United States' southern border and vowed if elected president to build a wall to keep out immigrants who enter illegally.
It was not the first time U.S. allies have voiced concern over comments by Trump.
More than half a million Britons signed a petition to bar him from entering the country, where he has business interests, in response to his call to ban Muslims from entering the United States. British lawmakers decided against a ban as a violation of free speech.
It was not clear what impact the pope's remarks would have on the Nov. 8 presidential election.
Asked if American Catholics should vote for someone with Trump's views, Francis said, "I am not going to get involved in that. I say only that this man is not Christian if he has said things like that. We must see if he said things in that way and in this I give the benefit of the doubt."
It remained to be seen if the pope's comments would strengthen Trump, whose swipes at rival candidates and heated exchanges with others have bolstered his standing in nominating contests and opinion polls.
Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush, speaking in Columbia, South Carolina, said he would not question anyone's relationship with God. But Bush, a Catholic, said, "It only enables bad behavior when someone from outside our country talks about Donald Trump."
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Trump, a real estate developer and former reality TV show host, said, "If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS's ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been president."
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Vatican Wall
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Anti-pope Frank 1 :fryingpan:
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Can someone please assasinate? Please?
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:roll-laugh2: :roll-laugh1:
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We should all vote for Trump just to spite Francis.
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Can someone please assasinate? Please?
FYI, just to let you know, that what you say here is enough for the FBI/CIA to insist the moderator here to give up your IP address so that they can determine and prosecute you as a potential physical threat to another.
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I took it as a joke.... :sleep:
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What really happened was the Pope was baited by a reporter,
then he talked about bridges and walls and ended by saying
he would give "this man" the benefit of the doubt.
So the media misrepresented the events looking for a controversial
headline - and Trump jumped the gun with a harsher comment.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/18/msm-journalist-paints-trump-as-ogre-pope-says-he-would-give-benefit-of-the-doubt/
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Can someone please assasinate? Please?
FYI, just to let you know, that what you say here is enough for the FBI/CIA to insist the moderator here to give up your IP address so that they can determine and prosecute you as a potential physical threat to another.
Actually, for that to even be prosecutable it has to be a direct threat on his life from me. Something like "I am going to kill Pope Francis." What I said doesn't qualify.
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Yet another original posting whose style seems unlikely to be the personal work of any but the rarest of CathInfo members:
No stranger to controversy, Trump, the longtime party front-runner in national opinion polls, has accused Mexico of sending rapists and drug runners across the United States' southern border and vowed if elected president to build a wall to keep out immigrants who enter illegally.
It was not the first time U.S. allies have voiced concern over comments by Trump.
[....]
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't  true [....]
Does the author really believe that in recent years, Mexico is an ally of the U.S.A.?
It is true that Mexico's hostilities aren't as overt as firing Scud missiles across the border against targets in the U.S.A.  But U.S. citizens ought to have noticed, by now, the attitude of defiance with which Mexico's long-corrupt federal government is conducting what is really an invasion of the U.S.A.- , by sending its citizens illegally across the U.S. border.
Did "Pope Francis" criticize Mexico, not only for its vigorous policy of arresting & imprisoning noncitizens who cross its own southern borders illegally, but also the hypocrisy of its double standard for borders? They arrogantly act as if in North America, Mexico has a right to protect & defend its sovereign borders, but the U.S.A. does not !
Mexico seems to be imitating their Caribbean neighbor Cuba, notably the (latter's) "Mariel Boatlift", by which they abused overly charitable U.S. policies that apply only to self-proclaimed "refugees" from communist Cuba, reducing their need to spend Cuban money to provide room-&-board for their imprisoned civil career-criminals, making them into the U.S.A.'s problem. A cleverly subversive plan, indeed!
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Note *: The U.S. Constitution clearly requires that the "United States shall protect each of them [every State in this Union] against invasion": Art. IV Sect. 4.
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There is a lot about Trump that is not Christian. For example, the first commandment says, "Thou shalt not have other gods before me." Therefore, Trump's worship of money is not Christian.
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Can someone please assasinate? Please?
FYI, just to let you know, that what you say here is enough for the FBI/CIA to insist the moderator here to give up your IP address so that they can determine and prosecute you as a potential physical threat to another.
Actually, for that to even be prosecutable it has to be a direct threat on his life from me. Something like "I am going to kill Pope Francis." What I said doesn't qualify.
Soliciting for murder is a crime itself.
If you ever read the news, yes, that very thing can ruin your life, even if you meant it facetiously.
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Can someone please assasinate? Please?
Uh, which one are you referring to? :thinking:
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:roll-laugh1:
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There is a lot about Trump that is not Christian. For example, the first commandment says, "Thou shalt not have other gods before me." Therefore, Trump's worship of money is not Christian.
Trump has swum with the jews his whole adult life.
Trump's Deck of Jew cards (https://youtu.be/G59mNNfLZx8)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VWCOocQga_Q/hqdefault.jpg)
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Listen tonight on the reverse speech of the Pope.
The science of reverse speech is the voice of the sub conscience. The
real motives of the mind.
David John Oates
Reverse Speech
Reversals On The Pope -
Find Out The Truth
www.rense.com
The internet show starts at 7:PM Pacific Time tonight.
Or go to reversespeech.com
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There is a lot about Trump that is not Christian. For example, the first commandment says, "Thou shalt not have other gods before me." Therefore, Trump's worship of money is not Christian.
Trump has swum with the jews his whole adult life.
Trump's Deck of Jew cards (https://youtu.be/G59mNNfLZx8)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VWCOocQga_Q/hqdefault.jpg)
They all worship money and the powers of the Office of the President of
the United States.
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Can someone please assasinate? Please?
FYI, just to let you know, that what you say here is enough for the FBI/CIA to insist the moderator here to give up your IP address so that they can determine and prosecute you as a potential physical threat to another.
Actually, for that to even be prosecutable it has to be a direct threat on his life from me. Something like "I am going to kill Pope Francis." What I said doesn't qualify.
It would also be a violation of the fifth commandment, "Thou shalt not kill."
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Pope Francis forcefully injected himself into the U.S. presidential campaign on Thursday, assailing Republican candidate Donald Trump's views on U.S. immigration as "not Christian" in a sign of growing international concern at the billionaire businessman's prospects of winning the election.
I dispute the above. Pope Francis did not forcefully inject himself into the presidential campaign. A leftist reporter said, "There is this bad man named Trump who is saying all these bad things, And Pope Francis replied, If he is saying these bad things he isn't very Christian to me."
On the plane trip home from Mexico to Rome, American journalist Phil Pullella depicted Republican candidate Donald Trump as an odious person who would heartlessly split up families and thinks only of building walls, and then asked the Pope whether American Catholics can vote for him.
The Pope responded to the Reuters reporter that anyone who thinks only of building walls and never of building bridges is no Christian, since this way of thinking is foreign to the gospel. But he also questioned the accuracy of the reporter’s depiction of Trump.
“I would only say: if he said these things, this man is no Christian,” Francis said. “But we’d have to see whether he said these things. And in this matter, I would give him the benefit of the doubt.”
http://www.fisheaters.com/forums/index.php?topic=3470629.0
Pope Francis ends by saying, "I would give him the benefit of a doubt." The news media is taking what he said out of context in a major way.
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There is one way in which the Pope does have a good point. Sometimes we have to build walls between national boundaries however the walls that are the worst are those that are invisible; walls of racial hatred, walls of ethnic hatred, walls where we all sit in different corners and stare daggers at one another. Anyone who promotes these types of division and hatred is not Christian.
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Reverse Speech on Pope Francis by David John Oates.
The voice of the subconscience. When a person lies, the truth can be
found in reverse speech.
This makes the lie detector machine obsolete.
Go to rense.com for the MP3s
www.reversespeech.com
Reverse Speech
FREE LISTEN MP3s
David John Oates - Reverse Speech Reversals On The Pope - Find Out The Truth 1/2
David John Oates - Reverse Speech Reversals On The Pope - Find Out The Truth 2/2
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There is one way in which the Pope does have a good point. Sometimes we have to build walls between national boundaries however the walls that are the worst are those that are invisible; walls of racial hatred, walls of ethnic hatred, walls where we all sit in different corners and stare daggers at one another. Anyone who promotes these types of division and hatred is not Christian.
Walls of racial hatred, I agree on that. Walls of racial 'separatism' are, however, good.
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There is one way in which the Pope does have a good point. Sometimes we have to build walls between national boundaries however the walls that are the worst are those that are invisible; walls of racial hatred, walls of ethnic hatred, walls where we all sit in different corners and stare daggers at one another. Anyone who promotes these types of division and hatred is not Christian.
(http://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Debbie-Wasserman-Schultz.jpg)
Right on Poche!
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When The Pope speaks to these reporters, isn't that gossip ?
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Reverse Speech on Pope Francis by David John Oates.
The voice of the subconscience. When a person lies, the truth can be
found in reverse speech.
This makes the lie detector machine obsolete.
Go to rense.com for the MP3s
www.reversespeech.com
Reverse Speech
FREE LISTEN MP3s
David John Oates - Reverse Speech Reversals On The Pope - Find Out The Truth 1/2
David John Oates - Reverse Speech Reversals On The Pope - Find Out The Truth 2/2
I hope no one is dumb enough to believe the reverse speech fantasy.....
We don't need it to know that Frank is anti-pope.... :cheers:
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Reverse Speech on Pope Francis by David John Oates.
The voice of the subconscience. When a person lies, the truth can be
found in reverse speech.
This makes the lie detector machine obsolete.
Go to rense.com for the MP3s
www.reversespeech.com
Reverse Speech
FREE LISTEN MP3s
David John Oates - Reverse Speech Reversals On The Pope - Find Out The Truth 1/2
David John Oates - Reverse Speech Reversals On The Pope - Find Out The Truth 2/2
I hope no one is dumb enough to believe the reverse speech fantasy.....
We don't need it to know that Frank is anti-pope.... :cheers:
ROSCOE:
Why do you say that reverse speech is a fantasy? Whom are your experts?
Give my some resources that reverse speech is a fantasy. Or I will
conclude that this is your opinion.
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There is one way in which the Pope does have a good point. Sometimes we have to build walls between national boundaries however the walls that are the worst are those that are invisible; walls of racial hatred, walls of ethnic hatred, walls where we all sit in different corners and stare daggers at one another. Anyone who promotes these types of division and hatred is not Christian.
Please! I don't come here to read this trash.
Who are you to say who is or isn't Christian? Can you read hearts? No? Then keep your opinions to yourself.
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Reverse Speech on Pope Francis by David John Oates.
The voice of the subconscience. When a person lies, the truth can be
found in reverse speech.
This makes the lie detector machine obsolete.
Go to rense.com for the MP3s
www.reversespeech.com
Reverse Speech
FREE LISTEN MP3s
David John Oates - Reverse Speech Reversals On The Pope - Find Out The Truth 1/2
David John Oates - Reverse Speech Reversals On The Pope - Find Out The Truth 2/2
I hope no one is dumb enough to believe the reverse speech fantasy.....
We don't need it to know that Frank is anti-pope.... :cheers:
ROSCOE:
Why do you say that reverse speech is a fantasy? Whom are your experts?
Give my some resources that reverse speech is a fantasy. Or I will
conclude that this is your opinion.
Give us some experts that say reverse speech is anything other than a pile of crap.
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There is one way in which the Pope does have a good point. Sometimes we have to build walls between national boundaries however the walls that are the worst are those that are invisible; walls of racial hatred, walls of ethnic hatred, walls where we all sit in different corners and stare daggers at one another. Anyone who promotes these types of division and hatred is not Christian.
Please! I don't come here to read this trash.
Who are you to say who is or isn't Christian? Can you read hearts? No? Then keep your opinions to yourself.
I don't pretend to read any one's heart. However I do believe that the walls that are more important than the wall that Trump proposes to build at the border between the USA and Mexico.
The walls of hatred The walls of personal nastiness, The walls of gossip, The walls where two people in the room sit at opposite corners and stare daggers at each other. These walls that are built by sins against charity need to come down.
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Folks ... you have to take the time to watch this video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyWZljiySiU&feature=em-subs_digest
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There is one way in which the Pope does have a good point. Sometimes we have to build walls between national boundaries however the walls that are the worst are those that are invisible; walls of racial hatred, walls of ethnic hatred, walls where we all sit in different corners and stare daggers at one another. Anyone who promotes these types of division and hatred is not Christian.
(http://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Debbie-Wasserman-Schultz.jpg)
Right on Poche!
The Moment Chelsea Clinton found out she is Webster Hubbell's
Daughter, not Bill Clinton.
https://youtu.be/gjESVK41DMs
If the photo is not Chelsea Clinton, she is a good ringer for her.