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Offline Cera

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Pope says Trump "not Christian"
« on: February 18, 2016, 05:06:24 PM »
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  • Pope Francis forcefully injected himself into the U.S. presidential campaign on Thursday, assailing Republican candidate Donald Trump's views on U.S. immigration as "not Christian" in a sign of growing international concern at the billionaire businessman's prospects of winning the election.

    Trump struck back, swiftly dismissing the leader of the world's Roman Catholics as "disgraceful" for questioning his faith.

    "A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian," Francis told reporters during a free-wheeling conversation on his flight home from a visit to Mexico.

    No stranger to controversy, Trump, the longtime party front-runner in national opinion polls, has accused Mexico of sending rapists and drug runners across the United States' southern border and vowed if elected president to build a wall to keep out immigrants who enter illegally.

    It was not the first time U.S. allies have voiced concern over comments by Trump.

    More than half a million Britons signed a petition to bar him from entering the country, where he has business interests, in response to his call to ban Muslims from entering the United States. British lawmakers decided against a ban as a violation of free speech.

    It was not clear what impact the pope's remarks would have on the Nov. 8 presidential election.

    Asked if American Catholics should vote for someone with Trump's views, Francis said, "I am not going to get involved in that. I say only that this man is not Christian if he has said things like that. We must see if he said things in that way and in this I give the benefit of the doubt."

    It remained to be seen if the pope's comments would strengthen Trump, whose swipes at rival candidates and heated exchanges with others have bolstered his standing in nominating contests and opinion polls.

    Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush, speaking in Columbia, South Carolina, said he would not question anyone's relationship with God. But Bush, a Catholic, said, "It only enables bad behavior when someone from outside our country talks about Donald Trump."
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    Trump, a real estate developer and former reality TV show host, said, "If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS's ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been president."
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    Offline Binechi

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #1 on: February 18, 2016, 05:26:01 PM »
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    Offline roscoe

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #2 on: February 18, 2016, 05:32:03 PM »
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  • Anti-pope Frank 1 :fryingpan:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #3 on: February 18, 2016, 06:54:26 PM »
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    Better to illuminate than merely to shine, to deliver to others contemplated truths than merely to contemplate.

       -Thomas Aquinas

    "Even if my own father were a heretic, I would gather the wood to burn him"

    -Pope Paul IV

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #4 on: February 18, 2016, 07:24:45 PM »
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  •  :roll-laugh2: :roll-laugh1:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


    Offline Sbyvl

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #5 on: February 18, 2016, 07:27:09 PM »
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  • We should all vote for Trump just to spite Francis.
    I apologize for all rude, calumnious, uncharitable, and unchristian posts I have made, and I retract them.

    Offline McCork

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #6 on: February 18, 2016, 07:37:25 PM »
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    Can someone please assasinate? Please?


    FYI, just to let you know, that what you say here is enough for the FBI/CIA to insist the moderator here to give up your IP address so that they can determine and prosecute you as a potential physical threat to another.

    Offline roscoe

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #7 on: February 18, 2016, 07:54:14 PM »
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  • I took it as a joke....  :sleep:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


    Offline snowball

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #8 on: February 18, 2016, 08:52:01 PM »
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  • What really happened was the Pope was baited by a reporter,
    then he talked about bridges and walls and ended by saying
    he would give "this man" the benefit of the doubt.

    So the media misrepresented the events looking for a controversial
    headline - and Trump jumped the gun with a harsher comment.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/18/msm-journalist-paints-trump-as-ogre-pope-says-he-would-give-benefit-of-the-doubt/

    Offline MrYeZe

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #9 on: February 18, 2016, 09:52:05 PM »
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    Quote from: MrYeZe
    Can someone please assasinate? Please?


    FYI, just to let you know, that what you say here is enough for the FBI/CIA to insist the moderator here to give up your IP address so that they can determine and prosecute you as a potential physical threat to another.


    Actually, for that to even be prosecutable it has to be a direct threat on his life from me. Something like "I am going to kill Pope Francis." What I said doesn't qualify.
    Better to illuminate than merely to shine, to deliver to others contemplated truths than merely to contemplate.

       -Thomas Aquinas

    "Even if my own father were a heretic, I would gather the wood to burn him"

    -Pope Paul IV

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #10 on: February 18, 2016, 10:33:15 PM »
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  • Yet another original posting whose style seems unlikely to be the personal work of any but the rarest of CathInfo members:

    Quote from: Cera (or an uncredited source) (Feb 18, 2016, 6:06 pm)
    No stranger to controversy, Trump, the longtime party front-runner in national opinion polls, has accused Mexico of sending rapists and drug runners across the United States' southern border and vowed if elected president to build a wall to keep out immigrants who enter illegally.

    It was not the first time U.S. allies have voiced concern over comments by Trump.
    [....]
    “There are two ways to be fooled.  One is to believe what isn't  true [....]

    Does the author really believe that in recent years, Mexico is an ally of the U.S.A.?

    It is true that Mexico's hostilities aren't as overt as firing Scud missiles across the border against targets in the U.S.A.   But U.S. citizens ought to have noticed, by now, the attitude of defiance with which Mexico's long-corrupt federal government is conducting what is really an invasion of the U.S.A.
    • , by sending its citizens illegally across the U.S. border.


    Did "Pope Francis" criticize Mexico, not only for its vigorous policy of arresting & imprisoning noncitizens who cross its own southern borders illegally, but also the hypocrisy of its double standard for borders?  They arrogantly act as if in North America, Mexico has a right to protect & defend its sovereign borders, but the U.S.A. does not !

    Mexico seems to be imitating their Caribbean neighbor Cuba, notably the (latter's) "Mariel Boatlift", by which they abused overly charitable U.S. policies that apply only to self-proclaimed "refugees" from communist Cuba, reducing their need to spend Cuban money to provide room-&-board for their imprisoned civil career-criminals, making them into the U.S.A.'s problem.  A cleverly subversive plan, indeed!

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    Note *: The U.S. Constitution clearly requires that the "United States shall protect each of them [every State in this Union] against invasion": Art. IV Sect. 4.



    Offline poche

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #11 on: February 18, 2016, 11:31:57 PM »
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  • There is a lot about Trump that is not Christian. For example, the first commandment says, "Thou shalt not have other gods before me." Therefore, Trump's worship of money is not Christian.

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #12 on: February 19, 2016, 07:03:20 PM »
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  • Quote from: MrYeZe
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    Can someone please assasinate? Please?


    FYI, just to let you know, that what you say here is enough for the FBI/CIA to insist the moderator here to give up your IP address so that they can determine and prosecute you as a potential physical threat to another.


    Actually, for that to even be prosecutable it has to be a direct threat on his life from me. Something like "I am going to kill Pope Francis." What I said doesn't qualify.


    Soliciting for murder is a crime itself.

    If you ever read the news, yes, that very thing can ruin your life, even if you meant it facetiously.

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #13 on: February 19, 2016, 07:19:08 PM »
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    Can someone please assasinate? Please?



    Uh, which one are you referring to?
      :thinking:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Pope says Trump "not Christian"
    « Reply #14 on: February 19, 2016, 07:41:28 PM »
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  •  :roll-laugh1:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'