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Jehanne · « **Reply #30 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:06:08 AM »

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The 'policies' of the democratic policy are called communism. So instead of voting for at least a morraly sound person you voted for the worst president in US history. And both parties are controlled by the Jewdaic-masons thus are anti-catholic. But supporting someone who uses our tax money to fund overseas abortion is appaling. It also makes me question how Catholic that person is.

Well, sorry...I am an American, too! But, yes, my loyalty to my Catholic faith is first and foremost. I just don't see how dothing nothing is being a good citizen. One should at least try to make the World a better place.

Jehanne · « **Reply #31 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:07:04 AM »

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Quote from: TheD
The 'policies' of the democratic policy are called communism. So instead of voting for at least a morraly sound person you voted for the worst president in US history. And both parties are controlled by the Jewdaic-masons thus are anti-catholic. But supporting someone who uses our tax money to fund overseas abortion is appaling. It also makes me question how Catholic that person is.

Well, sorry...I am an American, too! But, yes, my loyalty to my Catholic faith is first and foremost. I just don't see how dothing nothing is being a good citizen. One should at least try to make the World a better place.

"doing nothing..." Ugh! (Is there a way to edit posts??)

Jehanne · « **Reply #32 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:09:04 AM »

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Jehanne do you believe obama was born on US soil?

Yes, I think that the evidence for that is sound. Besides, he has been sworn in, which means that he is President. In actuality, he became President at 12 Noon on his inaugural day (January 20?), in spite of the fact that Chief Justice Roberts was addressing him as "Senator..." at 12:05 or so that afternoon.

Belloc · « **Reply #33 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:12:25 AM »

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Jehanne do you believe obama was born on US soil?

Yes, I think that the evidence for that is sound. Besides, he has been sworn in, which means that he is President. In actuality, he became President at 12 Noon on his inaugural day (January 20?), in spite of the fact that Chief Justice Roberts was addressing him as "Senator..." at 12:05 or so that afternoon.

Swearing someone in does not mean he is President, if the requirements are not there, it is invalid.........also, the facts are far from "sound", despite what corporate media and bankster clout would have us believe.......

Jehanne · « **Reply #34 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:16:26 AM »

Quote from: Raoul76

So why vote for anyone at all, Jehanne?

The problem with voting for Obama is that he openly says he's against abortion. That makes it look as if you're openly voting for it. At least the Republicans pretend to be against abortion so you can say "If they never intended to stop it, at least I had the right intention."

What on Earth is there in Obama's platform that a Catholic can get behind? This is very bizarre from someone who can't even abide the occasional pair of pants on a lady.

You say:
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It's a two-party system. Voting for a third-party candidate would have meant throwing my vote away.

Then:

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Of course, I wish that things were different, but I am powerless to change the decadent forces of the Enlightenment.

It's not about who wins or "throwing your vote away," it's about YOUR intention before God. As for me, I don't believe in ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic democracy and I don't vote. America is a cesspool. I vote mentally for the restoration of the monarchies of Europe.

I agree with that latter sentence, 100%! I, too, think that the World would be a better place with the Catholic monarchies. Speaking strictly from a scientific point of view, our present Civilization is not sustainable. We are going to "drown" in our own greenhouse gas emissions, and the "free market," republican (small 'R') capitalism will guarantee that we sink toward the lowest common denominator, which is fossil fuels. They are the cheapest and most reliable form of energy, which is why we are guaranteed to continue to use them, because if we do not, someone else will, which means that we will get beat, badly, in the free market. It is the Tragedy of the Commons, which did not occur under feudalism.

If and until then, I, as a private citizen, am stuck with what I got. And, I do care about other issues, like my family's healthcare, which would suffer under Republican rule. As I said before, the Republican party is using the Religious Right, like a cheap...

Jehanne · « **Reply #35 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:17:49 AM »

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Jehanne do you believe obama was born on US soil?

Yes, I think that the evidence for that is sound. Besides, he has been sworn in, which means that he is President. In actuality, he became President at 12 Noon on his inaugural day (January 20?), in spite of the fact that Chief Justice Roberts was addressing him as "Senator..." at 12:05 or so that afternoon.

Swearing someone in does not mean he is President, if the requirements are not there, it is invalid.........also, the facts are far from "sound", despite what corporate media and bankster clout would have us believe.......

I am not a constitutional lawyer, but I would have to disagree, nonetheless. President Obama holds the office of President, for at least another 3.5 years.

Belloc · « **Reply #36 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:17:52 AM »

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Although I respect the French Monarchists.

Me too........

Me, too! Democracy gave us abortion, contraception, women in pants (oh, sorry, cheap shot!), etc. Don't get me wrong, I am an American and fully support the American democratic system. It is just that the American system, based upon the Enlightenment philosophers (Kant, Hume, etc.) gave us relativism, and the rest, as they say, is history... Democracy is not, I think, intrinsically evil, just that it ends up with intrinsically evil outcomes.

Now, all of you might hate me, but I voted for Obama. I think the Republican's party "pro-life" attitude is not at all sincere, at least as "professed" by their politicians. They are, IMHO, using the pro-life religious voters as cheap political hookers.

We are stuck with abortion, and contraception, also. (I won't mention that 'other' thing.) It's murder, plain and simple, the destruction of innocent, human life. We still have to mow our laws, go to work, and stay out of jail, no matter how much we distaste all of it. I do not say the Pledge of Allegiance, but I do vote.

Question-if the Enlightenment is bad-and it is-and the USA system is based/built on it, then how can you support ? You basically said-"it is evil and corrupt, but i support it"?

Me personally, think it is a incomplete masonic revolution, in that enough Christians and others stopped the excesses......unlike France 1789 or Portugal 1908....Mexico on 20's,etc...

I agree w/you the hypocrisy of GOP......both going toward socialism and nihlism....question is, which one is going faster.....anymore, hard to tell.....I agree, vote 3rd Party or not at all.....Sungenis I recall telling me was privately urging people not to vote or 3rd Party....could not officially on his site as it is tax exempt,etc...

I can no longer pledge allegiance either......I may stand in silence, that is it.....same if I am somewhere and the Canadian anthem plays......

Belloc · « **Reply #37 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:18:58 AM »

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Quote from: Jehanne
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Quote from: TheD
Although I respect the French Monarchists.

Me too........

Me, too! Democracy gave us abortion, contraception, women in pants (oh, sorry, cheap shot!), etc. Don't get me wrong, I am an American and fully support the American democratic system. It is just that the American system, based upon the Enlightenment philosophers (Kant, Hume, etc.) gave us relativism, and the rest, as they say, is history... Democracy is not, I think, intrinsically evil, just that it ends up with intrinsically evil outcomes.

Now, all of you might hate me, but I voted for Obama. I think the Republican's party "pro-life" attitude is not at all sincere, at least as "professed" by their politicians. They are, IMHO, using the pro-life religious voters as cheap political hookers.

We are stuck with abortion, and contraception, also. (I won't mention that 'other' thing.) It's murder, plain and simple, the destruction of innocent, human life. We still have to mow our laws, go to work, and stay out of jail, no matter how much we distaste all of it. I do not say the Pledge of Allegiance, but I do vote.

What!?! !@##%??? You voted for obama!?!!!? Thats the worst choice on the 2008 ballot. I think a third party candidate would have sufficed. The way I see it is that republicans ignor abortian but democrats expand it.

Actually, 8 yrs of Bush expanded,greatly, funding under Title X to Planned parenthood.....

Belloc · « **Reply #38 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:21:37 AM »

Quote from: Jehanne

Quote from: TheD
The 'policies' of the democratic policy are called communism. So instead of voting for at least a morraly sound person you voted for the worst president in US history. And both parties are controlled by the Jewdaic-masons thus are anti-catholic. But supporting someone who uses our tax money to fund overseas abortion is appaling. It also makes me question how Catholic that person is.

Well, sorry...I am an American, too! But, yes, my loyalty to my Catholic faith is first and foremost. I just don't see how dothing nothing is being a good citizen. One should at least try to make the World a better place.

"voting third party is a throw away vote".actually, no it is a vote for that candidate, simple..also, since millions of Americans have this view, does it not then become a self-fulfilling prophecy.......we need to have guts to stop making that happen and change voting patterns......other wise, we become part of problem....making the world better is promoting the Social Reign of Christ.....but also taking part in process, either to change it and to abolish it......

Jehanne · « **Reply #39 on:** September 04, 2009, 08:13:16 AM »

Quote from: Belloc

Question-if the Enlightenment is bad-and it is-and the USA system is based/built on it, then how can you support ? You basically said-"it is evil and corrupt, but i support it"?

I do not "support" it, rather, I participate in it. It's my way of trying to make the World a slightly better place, which means choosing between the lesser of two evils.

Jehanne · « **Reply #40 on:** September 04, 2009, 08:19:54 AM »

Quote from: Belloc

"voting third party is a throw away vote".actually, no it is a vote for that candidate, simple..also, since millions of Americans have this view, does it not then become a self-fulfilling prophecy.......we need to have guts to stop making that happen and change voting patterns......other wise, we become part of problem....making the world better is promoting the Social Reign of Christ.....but also taking part in process, either to change it and to abolish it......

Problem is that third-party candidates usually run only for President, which means that your vote could, at most, only influence one branch of government. Also, third-parties come and go, so there is little consistency over time. Healthcare is important to me, especially, for my disabled children. Some woman who is determined to get an abortion will get it, regardless of which party is in power. I am powerless to stop it, just as I am powerless to stop her from going to Hell if she dies with such an unrepentant sin.

TheD · « **Reply #41 on:** September 04, 2009, 09:32:20 AM »

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Quote from: Belloc
Quote from: TheD
Although I respect the French Monarchists.

Me too........

Me, too! Democracy gave us abortion, contraception, women in pants (oh, sorry, cheap shot!), etc. Don't get me wrong, I am an American and fully support the American democratic system. It is just that the American system, based upon the Enlightenment philosophers (Kant, Hume, etc.) gave us relativism, and the rest, as they say, is history... Democracy is not, I think, intrinsically evil, just that it ends up with intrinsically evil outcomes.

Now, all of you might hate me, but I voted for Obama. I think the Republican's party "pro-life" attitude is not at all sincere, at least as "professed" by their politicians. They are, IMHO, using the pro-life religious voters as cheap political hookers.

We are stuck with abortion, and contraception, also. (I won't mention that 'other' thing.) It's murder, plain and simple, the destruction of innocent, human life. We still have to mow our laws, go to work, and stay out of jail, no matter how much we distaste all of it. I do not say the Pledge of Allegiance, but I do vote.

What!?! !@##%??? You voted for obama!?!!!? Thats the worst choice on the 2008 ballot. I think a third party candidate would have sufficed. The way I see it is that republicans ignor abortian but democrats expand it.

Actually, 8 yrs of Bush expanded,greatly, funding under Title X to Planned parenthood.....

You are right and yes the GOP is hypocritical in many ways, but we should certainly not throw our support behind obamanation.

TheD · « **Reply #42 on:** September 04, 2009, 09:34:02 AM »

Quote from: Raoul76

So why vote for anyone at all, Jehanne?

The problem with voting for Obama is that he openly says he's against abortion. That makes it look as if you're openly voting for it. At least the Republicans pretend to be against abortion so you can say "If they never intended to stop it, at least I had the right intention."

What on Earth is there in Obama's platform that a Catholic can get behind? This is very bizarre from someone who can't even abide the occasional pair of pants on a lady.

You say:
Quote
It's a two-party system. Voting for a third-party candidate would have meant throwing my vote away.

Then:

Quote
Of course, I wish that things were different, but I am powerless to change the decadent forces of the Enlightenment.

It's not about who wins or "throwing your vote away," it's about YOUR intention before God. As for me, I don't believe in ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic democracy and I don't vote. America is a cesspool. I vote mentally for the restoration of the monarchies of Europe.

You are right 100%!

TheD · « **Reply #43 on:** September 04, 2009, 09:35:28 AM »

Quote from: Jehanne

Quote from: Raoul76
So why vote for anyone at all, Jehanne?

The problem with voting for Obama is that he openly says he's against abortion. That makes it look as if you're openly voting for it. At least the Republicans pretend to be against abortion so you can say "If they never intended to stop it, at least I had the right intention."

What on Earth is there in Obama's platform that a Catholic can get behind? This is very bizarre from someone who can't even abide the occasional pair of pants on a lady.

You say:
Quote
It's a two-party system. Voting for a third-party candidate would have meant throwing my vote away.

Then:

Quote
Of course, I wish that things were different, but I am powerless to change the decadent forces of the Enlightenment.

It's not about who wins or "throwing your vote away," it's about YOUR intention before God. As for me, I don't believe in ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic democracy and I don't vote. America is a cesspool. I vote mentally for the restoration of the monarchies of Europe.

I agree with that latter sentence, 100%! I, too, think that the World would be a better place with the Catholic monarchies. Speaking strictly from a scientific point of view, our present Civilization is not sustainable. We are going to "drown" in our own greenhouse gas emissions, and the "free market," republican (small 'R') capitalism will guarantee that we sink toward the lowest common denominator, which is fossil fuels. They are the cheapest and most reliable form of energy, which is why we are guaranteed to continue to use them, because if we do not, someone else will, which means that we will get beat, badly, in the free market. It is the Tragedy of the Commons, which did not occur under feudalism.

If and until then, I, as a private citizen, am stuck with what I got. And, I do care about other issues, like my family's healthcare, which would suffer under Republican rule. As I said before, the Republican party is using the Religious Right, like a cheap...

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There is no such thing as 'global warming'.

Jehanne · « **Reply #44 on:** September 04, 2009, 09:36:55 AM »

Quote from: TheD

Quote from: Belloc
Quote from: TheD
Quote from: Jehanne
Quote from: Belloc
Quote from: TheD
Although I respect the French Monarchists.

Me too........

Me, too! Democracy gave us abortion, contraception, women in pants (oh, sorry, cheap shot!), etc. Don't get me wrong, I am an American and fully support the American democratic system. It is just that the American system, based upon the Enlightenment philosophers (Kant, Hume, etc.) gave us relativism, and the rest, as they say, is history... Democracy is not, I think, intrinsically evil, just that it ends up with intrinsically evil outcomes.

Now, all of you might hate me, but I voted for Obama. I think the Republican's party "pro-life" attitude is not at all sincere, at least as "professed" by their politicians. They are, IMHO, using the pro-life religious voters as cheap political hookers.

We are stuck with abortion, and contraception, also. (I won't mention that 'other' thing.) It's murder, plain and simple, the destruction of innocent, human life. We still have to mow our laws, go to work, and stay out of jail, no matter how much we distaste all of it. I do not say the Pledge of Allegiance, but I do vote.

What!?! !@##%??? You voted for obama!?!!!? Thats the worst choice on the 2008 ballot. I think a third party candidate would have sufficed. The way I see it is that republicans ignor abortian but democrats expand it.

Actually, 8 yrs of Bush expanded,greatly, funding under Title X to Planned parenthood.....

You are right and yes the GOP is hypocritical in many ways, but we should certainly not throw our support behind obamanation.

I respect that, but I also care about my kids and their future. They will get more services from the Democrats than from the Republicans, therapies that they need to live a semi-normal life. Believe me, it's the bare minimum. I do not know many unpaid Medical bills that I have, at least $1K worth. My credit is completely shot, until I got my kids on Title 19, which took nearly a year for my oldest son. We are struggling just to eat.