Author Topic: Political Compass (Read 11017 times)

Belloc · « **Reply #30 on:** January 07, 2011, 08:24:16 AM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

Obama and the Dems are being aggressive and implementing their satanic agenda as much as democracy wil allow. I've been advocating this type of aggressive take-over for our side for years, but I've sadly learned the GOP is Democrat-Lite and does nothing but conserve liberal gains. They are hopeless. Our party choices are dumb and dumber. We're toast.

the talk by Vennari, he notes Fr. Fahey, who stated that Faith and action go hand-in-hand,hence the TLM is great, but no Catholic Social Order, good luck with that one...Fahey was fan of Cardinal Pie...

Belloc · « **Reply #31 on:** January 07, 2011, 08:31:39 AM »

"So long as Christ does not reign over nations, His influence over individuals remains superficial and precarious. If it is true that the work of the apostolate consists in the conversion of individuals and that nations as such do not go to heaven, but souls, one by one, we must not forget, nevertheless, that the individual member of society lives under the never-ceasing influence of his environment, in which, if we may not say that he is submerged, he is, at least, deeply plunged., If the environment is non-Catholic, it prevents him from embracing the faith or, if he has the faith, it tends to root out of his heart every vestige of belief. If we imagine Catholic social institutions, with Our Lord no longer living in the hearts of the individual members of society, then religion has there become merely a displeasing signboard which will soon be torn down. But, on the other hand, try to convert individuals without Catholicizing the social institutions and your work is without stability. The structure you erect in the morning will be torn down by others in the evening. is not the strategy of the enemies of God there to teach us a lesson? They want to destroy the faith in the hearts of the individuals, it is true, but they direct still more vigorous efforts to the elimination of religion from social institutions. Even one defeat of God in this domain means the weakening, if not the ruin, of the faith in the souls of many.

The Kingship of Christ by Cardinal Pie of Poitiers

factor · « **Reply #32 on:** January 07, 2011, 10:29:12 PM »

catholic sumari....what is the point of your question?

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #33 on:** January 08, 2011, 06:20:00 PM »

Quote from: factor

catholic sumari....what is the point of your question?

My point is that your statement (which strangely seems to resemble a copy and paste) is uninformed.

What makes you, as a Catholic (Im assuming you're Catholic since your posting here), think that this secular form of republican government is healthy and constructive for the re-establishment of Catholic society? All our actions are to be carried out in accordance with the laws of God and the Church. Do you believe that the US Constitution is in harmony with Catholicism? If so, explain why.

For the past 2000 years, the past governments of Europe and Asia have been promoters of Catholicism, even in times of corruption. The US never has, as a matter of fact, it has done the exact opposite throughout it's history. How does the US Republic compare to, say, that of 16th century Spain?

factor · « **Reply #34 on:** January 09, 2011, 08:38:22 PM »

first off the republic of the united states of america was founded as a republican form of government. not a monarchy, not an oligarchy or anything else.
in governments of forms other than this the appication of law
was passed directly from the rulers to the ruled.
this would mean and often did,whatever was ruled became law.
before the revolution, the laws of this nation applied to all, with the exception of the "papists." from what i understand, it was the inaction of catherine the great of russia, that forced the protestant government to cut a deal with the catholics for them to enter into the revolution.
the declaration of independence states "we are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights" this phrase in itself signifies that human rights come from god, not man.
the wording of the constitution denotes power from the people to those that goverrn. unfortunately over the years many of those who have been put in office have thought more of how they can control us and not that, which is of benefit to the citizens. thankl you for asking. have a good year. (ali)