Author Topic: Political Compass (Read 10987 times)

Belloc · « **Reply #35 on:** January 10, 2011, 07:09:34 AM »

God is used as a generic term by pagans, Muslims, and occultics (freemasons,etc).

The men that were the Founders were not orthodox Prots nor Catholics, most were deists and a majority were freemasons.

ALso, part of the deception is to thrown in "Christian" sounding phrases, Franklin was good at that and even occ purposly used it for his own purposes.....

Dont be fooled by the lingo. Symbols in Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ reveal and conceal.

You state "the wording of the constitution denotes power from the people to those that goverrn"

there in is the problem, power does NOT come from the people, it comes from Christ, the one and only true God.....

you m ay want to spend some months surfing through the AMericanist thread and reading, listening, watching,etc......even a Prot like Chris Pinto has good points in many of his docuмentaries (though, sadly, he takes a Vatican is behind all bad things approach many times). Riddles in stone is a good example of a good project he has done....

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #36 on:** January 10, 2011, 02:07:59 PM »

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first off the republic of the united states of america was founded as a republican form of government. not a monarchy, not an oligarchy or anything else.
in governments of forms other than this the appication of law
was passed directly from the rulers to the ruled.
this would mean and often did,whatever was ruled became law.

And what do you find wrong with this? How different is that concept weather the lawmakers are few or many, and weather or not they are chosen by the people?

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the declaration of independence states "we are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights" this phrase in itself signifies that human rights come from god, not man.

It is not any recognition of any entitlements bestowed on mankind by the God of the Catholic Church, or any protestant sect for that matter. It is a relativist declaration that put's any of it's followers at liberty to associate the nation's principles to the deity of their choice, be that Christ, Buddha, Shiva, Baal, Odin etc. This is how Muslims can say that the US Republic is in harmony with Sharia law. In the case of the Founding Father's (being members of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ) the "creator" that they have in mind is satan, who is the god of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ. No one can be Catholic and accept, let alone embrace, a republic's constitution that puts Christ the King on level with devil gods. The religious liberty patronized by the Constitution is what has resulted in the de-christianization of the US by acting as an umbrella for all false religions, that openly oppose Christ, to congregate and propagate their doctrines. My ancestors were better of under a monarchy with Catholicism as the official and absolute state religion because they didnt have any mosques or ѕуηαgσgυє in their towns.

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the wording of the constitution denotes power from the people to those that goverrn.

Factor, do you have children? If so, do you derive your authority and rights over them based on their consent?

Belloc · « **Reply #37 on:** January 10, 2011, 02:30:25 PM »

Heaven is a Hiearchy-the Church is too, why not then civil Govt???

and how to ahve a Govt of opposing factions?

Is not copious amounts of writings clear-we are to have Catholic State

Belloc · « **Reply #38 on:** January 10, 2011, 02:36:15 PM »

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reason, strict constructionism and common sense will again prevail. have a good year. (ali)

most Founders were huge fans of "reason" and common sense-relying on themselves....a product of the Prot revolt. Then, the natural occurnece of Enlightenment, Deism, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ,etc...all errors flowing from Luther, at least in part......

None based on solid Catholic principles......

factor · « **Reply #39 on:** January 13, 2011, 11:20:41 AM »

i am having a dificult time in making sense out of your writings. sorry for my stupidity.
i am curious tho, nations of europe professed catholic ties, so long as it benefited the rulers. (my opinion)
italy had been a nation of city states united later on by a guy named garibaldi (sp,?) travel was so dangerous for catholic bishops, that they finally received some assurances from the city of trent for their council. (source vatican library)
france's revolution was more anti-catholic than admitted. remember napoleon kidnapped the pope and put him in exile.
germany gave birth to martin luther and most of the bishops and laitey followed.
england gave birth to henry viii who villified catholicism and in later years had cromwell invading ireland and enslaving catholics to work the rum plantations in the carribbean as england could not get any african slaves in that the dutch and the portugese controlled the trade and refused to do business with the english.
of the scandinavian provinces, they were the ones who kicked out the puritains for their religious practices. these were those who landed on plymouth rock on the mayflower.
you are quite correct, from what i understand, concerning the masonic influences in the colonies. (before 1776) but as time went on, those influences did wane somewhat.
remember, it was posted earlier, the papists (catholics) were not originally considered. have a good year. (ali)