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Offline Mark 79

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Peℓσѕι receives…
« on: May 24, 2022, 10:24:07 AM »
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  • …Novus Ordo "Communion."

    https://www.lifenews.com/2022/05/23/nancy-Peℓσѕι-defies-her-catholic-bishop-receives-communion-at-liberal-catholic-church/


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    « Reply #1 on: May 24, 2022, 10:47:35 AM »
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  • Whoopi Goldberg rips archbishop for denying Peℓσѕι communion: ‘Not your job, dude’

    Peℓσѕι and the above hideous thing are nothing but more fuel for the fire.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    Re: Peℓσѕι receives…
    « Reply #2 on: May 24, 2022, 11:35:15 AM »
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  • …Novus Ordo "Communion."

    https://www.lifenews.com/2022/05/23/nancy-Peℓσѕι-defies-her-catholic-bishop-receives-communion-at-liberal-catholic-church/

    One small quibble here:

    As LifeNews reported, Cordileone said he formally notified U.S. House Speaker Nancy Peℓσѕι this week that she can no longer be allowed communion because she is no longer in communion with the Catholic Church by virtue of her repeatedly promoting abortion.

    Not quite.  She has not been excommunicated, and assuming one accepts Newchurch as the Catholic Church, albeit flawed deeply, merely refusing her communion is not the same thing as excommunication.  And it's a bit of a stretch to assert that she has incurred latae sententiae excommunication.

    I don't intend this as a defense of her in any way --- she's vile beyond words --- I'm just clarifying the concept and the terminology.

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    Re: Peℓσѕι receives…
    « Reply #3 on: May 24, 2022, 11:35:35 AM »
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  • Whoopi Goldberg rips archbishop for denying Peℓσѕι communion: ‘Not your job, dude’

    Peℓσѕι and the above hideous thing are nothing but more fuel for the fire.

    Sure, that cow is in a position (i.e. has the job) to tell a Catholic bishop what his "job" is.

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    « Reply #4 on: May 24, 2022, 11:36:21 AM »
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  • That priest should be summarily suspended and excommunicated.

    But then +?Cordileone should have excommunicated her and not just forbidden her from receiving Communion.  These punks would have given her Communion anyway though.  Joke's on them, of course, since it's not valid, but they'll be held accountable by God as if it had been.

    Entire Conciliar Hierarchy minus about a dozen needs to be completely deposed ... including Bergoglio (in his case, declared deposed).


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    Re: Peℓσѕι receives…
    « Reply #5 on: May 24, 2022, 11:40:15 AM »
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  • One small quibble here:

    As LifeNews reported, Cordileone said he formally notified U.S. House Speaker Nancy Peℓσѕι this week that she can no longer be allowed communion because she is no longer in communion with the Catholic Church by virtue of her repeatedly promoting abortion.

    Not quite.  She has not been excommunicated, and assuming one accepts Newchurch as the Catholic Church, albeit flawed deeply, merely refusing her communion is not the same thing as excommunication.  And it's a bit of a stretch to assert that she has incurred latae sententiae excommunication.

    I don't intend this as a defense of her in any way --- she's vile beyond words --- I'm just clarifying the concept and the terminology.
    Yes, the whole thing is your normal, every day, run of the mill, typical NO farce. 
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    « Reply #6 on: May 24, 2022, 11:40:41 AM »
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  • And of course we know whose corner Bergoglio is in:

    https://www.newsweek.com/Peℓσѕι-denied-communion-bishop-pope-eucharist-1708843

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    « Reply #7 on: May 24, 2022, 11:41:42 AM »
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  • Everyone needs to stop messing around with this clear and obvious Antichurch and just admit that it's not the Catholic Church and all get together to fill the vacancy of the Holy See.


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    « Reply #8 on: May 24, 2022, 11:55:55 AM »
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  • …all get together to fill the vacancy of the Holy See.

    Then what? Elect Cardinal Siri’s successor somewhere in the Vatican underground prisons? Paul VI’s double in Hawaii? Have another Palmarian situation? More Michael wackos? More Sede schisms? ::)

    Nah. That idea sucks so bad as to give Biden’s policies a run for the money.

    Stick with Msgnr. Des Lauriers’ Cassiciacuм Thesis or Fr. Chazal’s Sedeimpoundism or a variation of Msgnr. Lefebvre’s Eclipsed Church theory.

    We have enough anti-Popes, we don’t need more.
    “How can the ignorant teach others? How can the licentious make others modest? And how can the impure make others pure? If anyone hates peace, how can he make others peaceable ? Or if anyone has soiled his hands with baseness, how can he cleanse the impurities of another? We read also that if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the ditch [Matt. 15:14]. But first correct yourselves, in order that, free from blame , you may be able to correct those who are subject to you.”

    Pope Urban II

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    Re: Peℓσѕι receives…
    « Reply #9 on: May 24, 2022, 11:59:44 AM »
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  • "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    « Reply #10 on: May 24, 2022, 12:17:41 PM »
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  • Then what? Elect Cardinal Siri’s successor somewhere in the Vatican underground prisons? Paul VI’s double in Hawaii? Have another Palmarian situation? More Michael wackos? More Sede schisms? ::)

    Nah. That idea sucks so bad as to give Biden’s policies a run for the money.

    Stick with Msgnr. Des Lauriers’ Cassiciacuм Thesis or Fr. Chazal’s Sedeimpoundism or a variation of Msgnr. Lefebvre’s Eclipsed Church theory.

    We have enough anti-Popes, we don’t need more.

    No, that's why I said we need to all get together, not a Pope Michael.  As St. Robert Bellarmine writes, when the Church is without a Pope, the Church won't be left without a remedy (when he explains what would happen if the hierarchy were to die at one time).

    What we've had enough of is R&R putting roadblocks in the way of actually filling the vacant See and insulting and blaspheming Holy Mother Church by claiming that this abomination is the Holy Catholic Church.


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    « Reply #11 on: May 24, 2022, 12:39:09 PM »
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  • No, that's why I said we need to all get together, not a Pope Michael.  As St. Robert Bellarmine writes, when the Church is without a Pope, the Church won't be left without a remedy (when he explains what would happen if the hierarchy were to die at one time).

    What we've had enough of is R&R putting roadblocks in the way of actually filling the vacant See and insulting and blaspheming Holy Mother Church by claiming that this abomination is the Holy Catholic Church.

    I, as well as most other Traddies, will take any form of R&R (or Cassiciacuм) as a temporary glue to hold everyone together over another failed Conclave featuring your local Thuc consecrated Bishop or Old Catholic Bishop or SSPV Bishop all of whom will excommunicate each other before the Conclave even begins over such classic issues as muh Feeney iz a heretic bruh, Una cuм was haram bro, Thuc was looney and his consecrations were invalid, Bishop Gonzalez was a Novus Ordite and therefore his consecration was invalid my man, Archbishop Lefebvre’s consecration was invalid because muh Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ bro. :fryingpan:

    I’ll stick with the status quo until we have a practical solution; not acting on hypothetical and ambiguous texts extracted from various theologians of time past.

    No more anti-Popes. We have more than enough for a thousand sects. 

    https://www.academia.edu/19587505/Modern_Alternative_Popes
    “How can the ignorant teach others? How can the licentious make others modest? And how can the impure make others pure? If anyone hates peace, how can he make others peaceable ? Or if anyone has soiled his hands with baseness, how can he cleanse the impurities of another? We read also that if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the ditch [Matt. 15:14]. But first correct yourselves, in order that, free from blame , you may be able to correct those who are subject to you.”

    Pope Urban II

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    « Reply #12 on: May 24, 2022, 12:43:30 PM »
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  • I, as well as most other Traddies, will take any form of R&R (or Cassiciacuм) as a temporary glue to hold everyone together over another failed Conclave featuring your local Thuc consecrated Bishop or Old Catholic Bishop or SSPV Bishop all of whom will excommunicate each other before the Conclave even begins over such classic issues as muh Feeney iz a heretic bruh, Una cuм was haram bro, Thuc was looney and his consecrations were invalid, Bishop Gonzalez was a Novus Ordite and therefore his consecration was invalid my man, Archbishop Lefebvre’s consecration was invalid because muh Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ bro. :fryingpan:

    I’ll stick with the status quo until we have a practical solution; not acting on hypothetical and ambiguous texts extracted from various theologians of time past.

    R&R (glue?) ... even R&R s splintering.  There is no "glue".  And that's a strong piece of evidence that the See is vacant.  As for your assertion that Thuc was a "looney and his consecrations were invalid" ... that's just slander on both counts.  And your assertion that orders from Bishop Mendez y Gonzalez were "invalid" because he was a Novus Ordite?  That's slander also and not believed by R&R, with whom you claim to identify.  You're all over map and clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

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    « Reply #13 on: May 24, 2022, 12:47:27 PM »
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  • R&R (glue?) ... even R&R s splintering.  There is no "glue".  And that's a strong piece of evidence that the See is vacant.  As for your assertion that Thuc was a "looney and his consecrations were invalid" ... that's just slander on both counts.  And your assertion that orders from Bishop Mendez y Gonzalez were "invalid" because he was a Novus Ordite?  That's slander also and not believed by R&R, with whom you claim to identify.  You're all over map and clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

    LOL! Understanding sarcasm is not your strong point. You do realize that I was lampooning other Trads’ positions, right? I don’t believe in the nonsense you’re criticizing. :popcorn:

    R&R can splinter into a thousand groups. The clown in the Vatican holds them together materially.

    Also, I’m not R&R. ;)
    “How can the ignorant teach others? How can the licentious make others modest? And how can the impure make others pure? If anyone hates peace, how can he make others peaceable ? Or if anyone has soiled his hands with baseness, how can he cleanse the impurities of another? We read also that if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the ditch [Matt. 15:14]. But first correct yourselves, in order that, free from blame , you may be able to correct those who are subject to you.”

    Pope Urban II

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    « Reply #14 on: May 24, 2022, 12:52:19 PM »
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  • Viganooooooooooo :pray::pray::pray::pray::pray:
    We can hope but...

    In 100% seriousness, maybe the Dimond totalism is correct and we are RIGHT at the end. God knows.
    Regard all of my posts as unfounded slander, heresy, theologically specious etc
    I accept Church teaching on Implicit Baptism of Desire.
    Francis is Pope.
    NO is a good Mass.
    Not an ironic sig.