The reporter asks about EENS TWICE and the "Bishop" backs down from the true position after a pause.

Converting others to Roman Catholicism is not kosher certified by the Rabbinical Councils of the world.

Converting others to Freemasonic Noahidism and covert тαℓмυdism is both kashrut and certified universally, Inshallah.

Maybe the best trad priest on this right now is Fr. Jenkins? He seems to reject "implicit faith" in multiple WCB videos that are somewhat recent and says that the book "My Catholic Faith" is in error because of it. I don't endorse all of his views obviously but I think he holds the Aquinas position on BoD.

No one has been able to tell me why Abelard wasn't condemned at Sens for an outright rejection of BoD... This obviously is for a valid Pope to rule on but might be a good thing to ask Jenkins.

From what I've seen, MHFM has not "condemned" Fr. Jenkins for this heresy, so it appears that he may, in fact, be one of the only trad priests who holds an orthodox position on EENS.

Maybe it's just because I'm a convert, but, it boggles my mind that there is even a debate over EENS among traditionalists. I became Catholic because the Catholic Church is the ark of salvation. The only time I had issue with it was when I was entrenched in the Novus Ordo, after that, no problem at all.
Why is it so muddy with otherwise orthodox prelates? And why does it take the (commendable) efforts of two Benedictine monks to wake the world up to this issue?

I'm going to see about sending WCB an email about EENS to see what Fr. Jenkins says, if he responds.
Edit: Done. In sum, I basically voiced concerns over otherwise orthodox traditional priests having liberal views on the dogma (citing +Sanborn and +McKenna) and wanted to see what Catholics are to believe in regard to EENS. I used by CI screen name, in case they address it on-air lol

Thanks DL. I haven't listened since the +Dolan fiasco, has he walked that back?

I don't know, I honestly haven't listened since then either

No one has been able to tell me why Abelard wasn't condemned at Sens for an outright rejection of BoD... This obviously is for a valid Pope to rule on but might be a good thing to ask Jenkins.

Have you got a source for what Abelard said regarding BOD?

He isn't impeccable and we need a pope. He has something resembling the true Faith, everyone agrees he is a priest. Temporally other things will fall in line with a true pope, I am not as concerned about politics as I am about the salvation of billions. It is unlikely we will ever have a chance like this in the future where all RnR, sedewhatever, Indult and NO agree on someone. What gives if he isn't 100% tuned in on every temporal affair, he is still more accurate than 99% of people out there on almost all major deceptions. I don't want to explain theological distinctions to my grandkids, I want to be able to tell them about how The Crisis ended. God's will be done!!

In the end times even the elect will be deceived.

We should be looking out for any kind of deception going on.

I already had suspicions about Vigano when he was warning Trump about the "Deep State".  Vigano knows all about the Rothschilds etc. but he can't do a google search like me and see that Trump was best buds with Epstein for over 30 years?

Okay, we'll let that pass...

But now, Vigano wrote deceptively about Trump, not once, but TWICE!

Explain distinctions?

How about explaining mass murder?  Of ones own people?

It's not about politics. 

It's about Vigano lying and promoting a mass murderer!

He did it last month and this month.

He is still promoting Trump and he knows very well the evil Trump committed.  He knows the shots are murdering people.  He said so.

He is trying to change the narrative that Trump is good and it's all the WHO's fault.  It's all the Deep State's fault.

Trump is still out there promoting these shots to kill children and babies and

Vigano is out there still pushing TRUMP!

He is promoting a mass murderer!

People are upset the bishops don't call out Peℓσѕι, but nobody is upset that Vigano won't call out TRUMP?

FOR MURDERING HIS OWN PEOPLE?  AND WANTING CREDIT FOR IT!

I wondered last month if anyone was going to call out Vigano on that.  I did but it occurred to me that just like Trump, people love Vigano sooooo much they will let it slide, or make excuses for him.

Now this month Vigano is at it again and still NOBODY even notices!

Have any bloggers called him out?

Not only are they not calling him out, they want him to be Pope?

That is some kind of serious brainwashing or spellcraft.  smh

Getting the direct quote from Theologia Christiana may prove difficult, I couldn't find any PDF copy of it on the internet.

Found it in here: http://mdr-maa.org/resource/patrologia-latina/

It may take some digging and proficiency in Latin to find the direct quote...

Getting the direct quote from Theologia Christiana may prove difficult, I couldn't find any PDF copy of it on the internet.

This is the problem I have when looking for anything Abelard, even Abelard scholars have a lot of gaps in his works (a good deal has not survived) and a lot of the rest besides Sic et Non, his letters etc are not translated. The online stuff is mainly philosophy rather than theological in nature. I have been trying to get the original sources on a lot of Abelard but I don't unfortunately know Latin.

In the end times even the elect will be deceived.

We should be looking out for any kind of deception going on.

I already had suspicions about Vigano when he was warning Trump about the "Deep State".  Vigano knows all about the Rothschilds etc. but he can't do a google search like me and see that Trump was best buds with Epstein for over 30 years?

Okay, we'll let that pass...

But now, Vigano wrote deceptively about Trump, not once, but TWICE!

Explain distinctions?

How about explaining mass murder?  Of ones own people?

It's not about politics. 

It's about Vigano lying and promoting a mass murderer!

He did it last month and this month.

He is still promoting Trump and he knows very well the evil Trump committed.  He knows the shots are murdering people.  He said so.

He is trying to change the narrative that Trump is good and it's all the WHO's fault.  It's all the Deep State's fault.

Trump is still out there promoting these shots to kill children and babies and

Vigano is out there still pushing TRUMP!

He is promoting a mass murderer!

People are upset the bishops don't call out Peℓσѕι, but nobody is upset that Vigano won't call out TRUMP?

FOR MURDERING HIS OWN PEOPLE?  AND WANTING CREDIT FOR IT!

I wondered last month if anyone was going to call out Vigano on that.  I did but it occurred to me that just like Trump, people love Vigano sooooo much they will let it slide, or make excuses for him.

Now this month Vigano is at it again and still NOBODY even notices!

Have any bloggers called him out?

Not only are they not calling him out, they want him to be Pope?

That is some kind of serious brainwashing or spellcraft.  smh

Accusing him of deception is serious. We both have the same information; does he? Do you know this? 

From what I've seen, MHFM has not "condemned" Fr. Jenkins for this heresy, so it appears that he may, in fact, be one of the only trad priests who holds an orthodox position on EENS.

Maybe it's just because I'm a convert, but, it boggles my mind that there is even a debate over EENS among traditionalists. I became Catholic because the Catholic Church is the ark of salvation. The only time I had issue with it was when I was entrenched in the Novus Ordo, after that, no problem at all.
Why is it so muddy with otherwise orthodox prelates? And why does it take the (commendable) efforts of two Benedictine monks to wake the world up to this issue?

I'm going to see about sending WCB an email about EENS to see what Fr. Jenkins says, if he responds.
Edit: Done. In sum, I basically voiced concerns over otherwise orthodox traditional priests having liberal views on the dogma (citing +Sanborn and +McKenna) and wanted to see what Catholics are to believe in regard to EENS. I used by CI screen name, in case they address it on-air lol

The main reason EENS is denied and people are heretics on this issue is that they love man more than God.  It's really that simple.

In these times of many mixed marriages, godlessness, and the whole "cult of man" ideology, no one wants to believe that little Mary Sue who was so nice and friendly and made the best chocolate chip cookies could possibly have went to hell even though she was a Protestant heretic, or little Timmy who helped a little old lady across the street and smiled at me in the grocery store even though he was a Hindu Pagan could possibly have went to hell.

No sane person wants to see someone go to Hell but the reality is is that most people go there by their own choosing, this is Church Teaching, and it's simply not something most people want to think could happen especially since most of their family are probably not practicing Catholics so they put man above God and His Laws and try to find any sneaky way they can to get their loved ones that are outside The Church somehow into Heaven.

If people really loved their family and friends they would try their best to get them to see that they won't be saved without being Catholic and to try to get them to be Catholic.