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Offline Geremia

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« on: October 19, 2016, 09:29:51 PM »
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  • [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/NfdRmnT0Weo[/youtube]
    I lost count of the number of Clinton's lies per minute.
    And Trump could've done much better.
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    « Reply #1 on: October 19, 2016, 09:38:03 PM »
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  • @4:29, Trump says he'll appoint pro-life Supreme Court justices:
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    « Reply #2 on: October 19, 2016, 11:25:05 PM »
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    And Trump could've done much better.


    HUGE missed opportunity on Trump's part here. Most of America is against partial birth abortion and he let her misinformation about having to choose between the life of the mom and the baby stand.

    He even repeated "ripping a child from the womb" as if it was a bad thing. At 37+ weeks, that's called a c-section. The point is that you're going into the womb and killing a child because it would be illegal to allow the child to leave the womb and then do the exact same thing.

    While abortion in general is very controversial with the American public, partial birth abortion is not. Chris Wallace gave Trump a gift by asking specifically about partial birth abortion and Trump bombed it.
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    « Reply #3 on: October 20, 2016, 12:22:44 AM »
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  • Twisted libtards...
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 20, 2016, 01:01:13 AM »
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    While abortion in general is very controversial with the American public, partial birth abortion is not. Chris Wallace gave Trump a gift by asking specifically about partial birth abortion and Trump bombed it.


    I disagree. I'm watching the post-commentary on FOX and all the pundits are commending him for going to bat so hard on abortion.


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    « Reply #5 on: October 20, 2016, 01:02:58 AM »
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    And Trump could've done much better.


    I thought he did very well overall.

    I've looked at a dozen polls and he is winner of all (by 60-75%) except for one that I saw.

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    « Reply #6 on: October 20, 2016, 09:50:39 AM »
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  • The true Catholic debate on Clinton's mental condition, is not whether she is demonically possessed, but whether it is perfect or imperfect possession?



    DEMOCRAT HILLARY CLINTON’S BEHIND THE SCENES TIRADE AFTER NBC’s MATT LAUER ASKED CLINTON THE ONE QUESTION SHE HAD NOT PRE-APPROVED
     
             
            VETERAN NBC CAMERAMAN: ‘YOU REALLY HAD TO SEE THIS TO BELIEVE IT...SHE CAME APART – LITERALLY UNGLUED; SHE IS THE MOST FOUL-MOUTHED WOMAN I’VE EVER HEARD...AND THAT  VOICE AT SCREECH LEVEL...AWFUL’
             
          ”SHE LOOKED SO ENRAGED THAT WE ALL THOUGHT HER HEAD WOULD EXPLODE...IT WAS A FULL-ON MELT-DOWN AND THEN SHE SCREAMED SHE’D GET THAT F - - - ING LAUER FIRED FOR THIS. IT WENT ON FOR AT LEAST A HALF HOUR; WE ALL THOUGHT THE EMS WOULD BE THE NEXT CALL”


            NBC Associate Producer of Forum
             
            Behind the scenes, NBC technicians and cameramen at the Wednesday night, Commander-in-Chief Forum (Sept 7) report that Hillary Clinton was so angry and incensed that she had been ‘blind-sided’ by one question she was not prepared for and had not approved.
             
            “When her time in front of the cameras ended, Clinton shook the hand Lauer extended to her and smiled once more for the wide camera shot and then Hillary proceeded to pick up a full glass of water and threw it at the face of her assistant and the screaming started. She was in a full meltdown and no one on her staff dared speak with her – she went kind of manic and didn’t have any control over herself at that point. How   these people work with this woman is amazing to me.  Most of the small military audience were cordoned off, their seating not close to Mrs. Clinton, but certainly they heard her screaming because it was loud...and she really didn’t seem to care who heard any of  it.”
             
            Republican Donald Trump also appeared, in a separate telecast from Hillary Clinton’s and arrived with his two sons but no entourage or assistants in tow. The NBC cameramen involved in his segment said he was a ‘true gentleman’ and Trump and his sons spoke to everyone and thanked them for inviting him to speak: “It was a pleasure to answer your questions Matt.”
             
            Hillary Clinton’s segment was much different. According to people working on the sidelines, “When Matt posed the one legitimate question about the FBI investigation concerning her homemade server and the
            unsecured emails, we could see she was beginning to boil and her eyes looked to pop.”
             
            “It was toward the end of her interview so she was becoming unglued by the time Lauer finished with questioning.  Hillary went ballistic, throwing a huge tantrum and screaming at her staff, “you f - - - ing idiots, you were supposed to have this thing set up for me and you’ve screwed it up!  If that f - - - ing bastard wins we all hang from nooses! Lauer’s finished...and if I lose it’s all on your ass - - - - s for screwing this up.”
             
            Clinton finally stormed off the military ‘set’ and the assistant producer said she was screaming that she wanted to talk to “the idiot who set this mess up...you do not blindside me - ever!” and continued to demand to speak with executives at Comcast, parent company to NBC Universal.
             
            Her dozen or more aides were visibly disturbed and tried to calm her down when she started shaking uncontrollably.  That did not stop her from demanding an executive “on the phone, now!”
            She was told the executive-in-charge of the forum was ready to talk with her and she was led away by two rather large aides who appeared to help her walk.
             
            The TV executives got the message with all of the censuring headlines that followed over the next couple of days when it seemed the entire media turned on Matt Lauer for behaving in a “partisan” manner and “being grossly unfair and critical of the former secretary of state.”
           
           Matt Lauer was heavily criticized on air by the Clinton campaign the rest of the week with most of the mainstream media joining in. The media appeared to frame Matt’s one serious question as the Clinton campaign was doing...”an unfair and partisan attack on Mrs. Clinton.”
           
            Matt Lauer is still facing major backlash following his 23 minutes with Hillary Clinton. Privately, many reporters said Matt handed the Democrat nominee the expected softball questions, but made the decision to ask about the emails because, “the American people deserve an answer from the former secretary of state.”
     
           Calls were made to New York Times, Washington Post and Huffington Post and Twitter executives with orders to “Crush Matt Lauer”. As you can easily see with all the headlines from these MSM sources, they did as they were told by the Clinton Campaign.
           
          Hillary also screamed that she would be “treated with respect at the debates or heads will roll.” Staffers at the Clinton Campaign report that they fear her wrath and uncontrollable outbursts, and one described Hillary as “an egotistical psychopath”.


     
          Since Hillary does not allow any staff to have cell phones when she is in their presence, no footage is available, but Hillary will never let this rest.  She has made it clear that she wants Matt Lauer to be “persona non grata - for putting her on the spot.”  
           
           Interim DNC chairman Donna Brazile, the first black woman to hold the position, was singled out by Hillary during the rant.

    She screamed at Donna, “I’m so sick of your face. You stare at the wall like a brain dead buffalo, while letting that f - - - ing Lauer get away with this.   What are you good for, really? Get the f - - - to work janitoring this mess - do I make myself clear?”
             
            A female NBC executive said that Donna Brazile looked at Mrs. Clinton and never flinched, which seemed to enrage Hillary all the more. The executive continued, “It was the most awful and terrible...and racist display – such a profane meltdown I have ever witnessed from anyone, and I will never forget it.  That woman should never see the inside of the oval office I can tell you that. She was unhinged and just continued to verbally abuse everyone – she was out of control.”




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    « Reply #7 on: October 20, 2016, 09:51:42 AM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici
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    And Trump could've done much better.


    HUGE missed opportunity on Trump's part here. Most of America is against partial birth abortion and he let her misinformation about having to choose between the life of the mom and the baby stand.

    He even repeated "ripping a child from the womb" as if it was a bad thing. At 37+ weeks, that's called a c-section. The point is that you're going into the womb and killing a child because it would be illegal to allow the child to leave the womb and then do the exact same thing.

    While abortion in general is very controversial with the American public, partial birth abortion is not. Chris Wallace gave Trump a gift by asking specifically about partial birth abortion and Trump bombed it.
    Yes, I agree. He shouldn't've let all Clinton's lies and euphemisms stand unanswered.

    Where he says
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    And honestly, nobody has business doing what I just said, doing that as late as one or two or three or four days prior to birth, nobody has that.
    is known as a "wedge argument." He thus does not believe in abortion for all 9 months (let alone during or after birth).

    Also, I also liked how the moderator mentioned Clinton has "been quoted as saying that the fetus has no constitutional rights." Some people probably didn't know that.

    Here, it seems Wallace was trying to get Trump to say he would force the courts to do something against their will, but Trump answered well (thus respecting the checks-and-balances between the judicial and executive branches):
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    …do you want the court, including the justices that you will name, to overturn Roe v. Wade, which includes, in fact states, a woman's right to abortion?

    Trump: Well, if that would happen, because I am pro-life and I will be appointing pro-life judges, I would think that that would go back to the individual states.

    Wallace: But I'm asking you specifically —

    Trump: If they overturned it, it will go back to the states.

    Wallace: What I'm asking you, sir, is do you want to see the court overturn? You just said you want to see the court protect the Second Amendment. Do you want to see the court overturn Roe v. Wade?

    Trump: If we put another two or perhaps three justices on, that will happen. And that will happen automatically in my opinion because I'm putting pro-life justices on the court. I will say this, it will go back to the states and the states will then make a determination.
    (full transcript)
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    « Reply #8 on: October 20, 2016, 10:16:58 AM »
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    I lost count of the number of Clinton's lies
    Quote from: Clinton
    …Planned Parenthood, which, of course, provides all kinds of cancer screenings and other benefits for women in our country.
    Yet, most don't have mammography machines…
    Quote from: Clinton
    And we've come too far to have that turn back now. Indeed, he said women should be punished, that there should be some form of punishment for women who obtain abortions.
    Pence doesn't say that. Did Trump?
    Quote from: Clinton
    Roe v. Wade very clearly sets out that there can be regulations on abortion so long as the life and the health of the mother are taken into account. And when I voted as a senator, I did not think that that was the case.
    Roe v. Wade said there can't be regulations during the 1st trimester. Planned Parenthood v. Casey essentially made any threat to the mother's health a valid reason for abortion.
    Quote from: Clinton
    Well, that is not what happens in these cases.
    Partial birth child-killing involves delivering all but the baby's head and sucking its brains out. "Ripping" probably does occur, much as it certainly does during earlier term surgical abortions.
    Quote from: Clinton
    And using that kind of scare rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate.
    Yet Clinton believes
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    This is one of the worst possible choices that any woman and her family has to make.

    I do not believe the government should be making it. I've been to countries where governments forced women to have abortions like they did in China
    They still do!
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    « Reply #9 on: October 20, 2016, 10:23:24 AM »
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    The true Catholic debate on Clinton's mental condition, is not whether she is demonically possessed, but whether it is perfect or imperfect possession?
    Yes, clearly she's a Jezebel, and we all know Jezebel's fate…

    A pro-life protester associated with Catholic pro-life activist Randall Terry confronted Clinton in 1992, telling her: "Hillary, Hillary, it is not God's will to kill babies." She angrily retorted, "It is God's will to kill babies!" (source: @15:30ff of this video)
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    « Reply #10 on: October 20, 2016, 10:30:52 AM »
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  • I laughed when Clinton claimed many toddlers are killing people with guns. I don't think that this is true.

    Has there ever been a presidential candidate get on stage at a debate and claim to be pro-life and that he is willing to appoint Supreme Court justices that will definitely end Roe v. Wade?



    I don't think there has, but more importantly, I doubt that it will ever happen again.
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    « Reply #11 on: October 20, 2016, 10:33:58 AM »
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    Yes, clearly she's a Jezebel, and we all know Jezebel's fate…



    I believe Hillary is the Harlot clothed in red who rides the Beast in the Book of Revelation.

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    « Reply #12 on: October 20, 2016, 10:43:10 AM »
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    Roe v. Wade said there can't be regulations during the 1st trimester. Planned Parenthood v. Casey essentially made any threat to the mother's health a valid reason for abortion.
    correction:
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    Roe v. Wade said there can't be regulations during the 1st trimester. Doe v. Bolton essentially made any threat to the mother's health a valid reason for abortion (Planned Parenthood v. Casey scrapped the trimester framework).
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    « Reply #13 on: October 20, 2016, 10:59:57 AM »
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    I believe Hillary is the Harlot clothed in red who rides the Beast in the Book of Revelation.
    Oh, yes, she was clothed in red here:

    Clinton asked: "Who painted it?" At a mere professional level, it's inexcusable that a Head of State didn't know such a basic fact of a nearby country. It's likely this was willed ignorance.
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    « Reply #14 on: October 20, 2016, 11:02:06 AM »
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    I laughed when Clinton claimed many toddlers are killing people with guns. I don't think that this is true.
    I laugh at her Russophobia. Russian hackers influencing the outcome of the U.S. presidential election? How exactly could they do that, anyways? :confused1:
    The mainstream media (MSM) has much more influence.
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