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Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2022, 05:16:58 PM »
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  • True but there are over 200 Catholic bishops and 46 bishops in USA.  Add that up.

    Nadir, you have made mistakes. Many people make mistakes.

    But the bottom line our bishops are getting a stipend but add up all the medical visits, dental , eyeglasses, free hospitalization, cars, insurance, free Internet, vacation homes, free legal and accounting services, free food, free housing, no wife or children. Paid One month vacation ,  Paid vacation. All is  it is past $150.  Do the math.  There a pReason why most American dioceses are in bankrupt.  While Catholic laity is broke because of high food costs, property taxes, car insurance etc.  They are the democrat party.  This is why you have a communist president. 

    Keep thumbing me down cause God is going to thumb down your lukewarm butt.
    I would thumb you down for this, if I could.
    Ladies shouldn't talk this way.  


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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #46 on: May 17, 2022, 05:18:06 PM »
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  • True but there are over 200 Catholic bishops and 46 bishops in USA.  Add that up.

    Nadir, you have made mistakes. Many people make mistakes.

    But the bottom line our bishops are getting a stipend but add up all the medical visits, dental , eyeglasses, free hospitalization, cars, insurance, free Internet, vacation homes, free legal and accounting services, free food, free housing, no wife or children. Paid One month vacation ,  Paid vacation. All is  it is past $150.  Do the math.  There a pReason why most American dioceses are in bankrupt.  While Catholic laity is broke because of high food costs, property taxes, car insurance etc.  They are the democrat party.  This is why you have a communist president. 

    Keep thumbing me down cause God is going to thumb down your lukewarm butt.
    Do you have a source for all of this? Also 200 bishops for what?

    Bishops and Dioceses | USCCB This says that there's roughly 260 Latin Rite bishops in the US. And it changes frequently because they retire at 75. My old diocese where I used to live is due for a new one.
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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #47 on: May 17, 2022, 05:38:19 PM »
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  • Keep thumbing me down cause God is going to thumb down your lukewarm butt.
    Is this sort of talk really necessary?  
    Let your speech be always in grace seasoned with salt: that you may know how you ought to answer every man.  ~ St. Paul’s Epistle to the Colossians, chapter 4, verse 6

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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #48 on: May 17, 2022, 05:58:44 PM »
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  • Do you have a source for all of this? Also 200 bishops for what?

    Bishops and Dioceses | USCCB This says that there's roughly 260 Latin Rite bishops in the US. And it changes frequently because they retire at 75. My old diocese where I used to live is due for a new one.
    Viva's source is The United Methodist Bishops website.
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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #49 on: May 17, 2022, 06:03:31 PM »
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  • u.s. conference of catholic bishops Salaries
    [color=var(--salalries-average-salary-color)]$67,503 [color=var(--salaries-text-color)]avg per year[/color]
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    is $67,503.*[/color]
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    The salary of a Catholic bishops is typically slightly more than the priests of the diocese. As the median total compensation for a priest in America is around $50,000 (a little less than half coming from the value of housing and various benefits),[1] it would be safe to assume bishop total compensation in the $60–70,000 range, with approximately $35–40,000 in salary.
    https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-a-Catholic-bishop-get-paid

    How reputable these websites are I don't know but at least they are speaking of Catholic bishops.
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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #50 on: May 17, 2022, 06:12:41 PM »
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  • Sorry, I was at St Patrick’s Cathedral before covid and it was so loud and noisy so we left. They made room for not one but several coin machines.  There were people all over talking loud. Nothing but a novus Ordo museum for tourists.

    Instead of verbally attacking me, go after the real problem. 
    Viva, my apology!  My nephew was in St. Patrick’s two weeks ago giving a college friend from Iowa a tour of the city.  They went into St. Patrick’s and he was immediately turned off by the very tacky addition of a tour desk and vending machines.  Apparently they were placed there with the approval of Cardinal Dolan in order to boost the falling donations.  I’m frankly disgusted by it.  There’s an entirely separate, much larger St. Patrick’s gift shop directly across 51 St.  Why don’t they put them over there?  In fact, they should close down the small gift shop in the church and put it all across the street!  I’m not sure when they were put there, but there was nothing of the sort the last time I visited.  
    The only other church I’ve visited where there were vending machines, a cafeteria, two kinds of stores, public restrooms, and a sitting area was the Basilica of the Immaculate Conception in Washington DC.  But their tourist places are all in the basement, completely sectioned off from the main church, the chapels, shrines, side altars, etc.  Worshippers and visitors to the religious areas neither see nor hear anything from the commercial area.  (Unless they’ve desecrated that, too! 😢)

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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #51 on: May 17, 2022, 06:17:23 PM »
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  • That's asking for a lot
    No need for sarcasm.  I already said it.

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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #52 on: May 17, 2022, 07:59:09 PM »
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  • 🎼 🎶 🎵 Viva, it is broad sweeping statements like the one above that are getting people upset enough to down thumb you.  Both sides of my family are replete with musicians, both professional and amateur.  My mother sang in the St. Charles Choir and played the piano and organ.  Her father, the saxophone and violin.  His father was a professional orchestra director who played a large number of stringed instruments.  My maternal uncle studied one year at The Crane School as a music major before switching to engineering when he realized he wasn’t going to be able to support his wife and hoped for family by playing the saxophone.  He also played clarinet, oboe, and bassoon in various community bands, orchestras, and did accompaniment for theaters.  For 10 years, he sang in the schola.  My Dad was a bugler in the Boy Scouts, played taps at military funerals throughout the 1940’s and later, when needed in the US Navy.  He was self-taught, but also played trumpet in high school marching band and became really good on different types of harmonicas. We have many fond memories of singing camp songs around the fire in the summer.  He’s played in a few Appalachian and bluegrass festivals.  His sister and her husband both sang professionally in The Waring Chorale as young adults, then, after retiring from other jobs, sang with The North Shore Choral Society in the US and Europe.  One of my cousins, their youngest daughter and her husband joined them in the summers.  My cousin’s husband was the music director and teacher for St. John the Baptist High School on Long Island. Their two oldest twin boys graduated from Fredonia State and play professionally in a swing band. My paternal grandparents and great grandparents (never knew the latter), played, sang, and danced traditional Irish music. In their 20’s and 30’s, my paternal grandparents did couples competitive ice-dancing in local contests, often placing for trophies or ribbons, well before the “everybody gets a prize” era!! 
    My sister sang in both high school and college and has recently returned to singing  at coffee houses and clubs. I can stumble through in the background on the flute or sing background harmony.  As for professional or paid performances, not!  But I love music of many genres.  I attended a college as an undergraduate that is affiliated with a well known music school. I had numerous friends and acquaintances, both male and female, who were music majors.  I dated two of them for a time. I also did sewing and mending for the school chorale, band, and orchestra—-for pay.  So I can assert that there were very few ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.  (The department where ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs abounded was that of drama, I’d guess about half or more of the guys were gαy, and quite open about it.  The department heads were a “couple.”  If it was lesbians you were looking for, look no farther than the women's hockey team. Ugh!)
    My point is that of all the people I’ve mentioned, from music majors,
    to professional lesson takers, to self or family taught, not one is or was remotely ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ or any other kind of sɛҳuąƖ deviant.  Making broad sweeping accusatory statements about large groups of people without any valid data to back it up is almost sure to unnecessarily offend the innocent.  Your point about the disgrace of specific ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Churchmen and their followers—public knowledge, can be made without mention of what I suspect is your personal opinion, not publicly known “fact” that most music majors are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs. (Even if true, what has the alleged sɛҳuąƖ deviancy of music majors to do with Card. Dolan and Catholic bishops living selfishly in luxury while practicing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity?)

    Please, Viva, try to show more grace than judgement. If someone or something deserves condemnation, please write in such a manner as to specify who are the culprits instead of implying all the readers are guilty by actual commission or by association.  Change your tone, not your topic, and you’ll find the downthumbs disappearing!


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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #53 on: May 17, 2022, 08:01:21 PM »
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  • Is this sort of talk really necessary? 
    Let your speech be always in grace seasoned with salt: that you may know how you ought to answer every man.  ~ St. Paul’s Epistle to the Colossians, chapter 4, verse 6

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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #54 on: May 17, 2022, 08:15:15 PM »
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  • Is this sort of talk really necessary? 
    Let your speech be always in grace seasoned with salt: that you may know how you ought to answer every man.  ~ St. Paul’s Epistle to the Colossians, chapter 4, verse 6
    There! select all, click on the red arrow A and chose 3.
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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #55 on: May 17, 2022, 08:18:42 PM »
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  • Do you have a source for all of this? Also 200 bishops for what?

    Bishops and Dioceses | USCCB This says that there's roughly 260 Latin Rite bishops in the US. And it changes frequently because they retire at 75. My old diocese where I used to live is due for a new one.
    VCR is NO, sources Protestant info, and applies it to the Catholic Church.  :facepalm:


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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #56 on: May 17, 2022, 08:32:28 PM »
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  • VCR is NO, sources Protestant info, and applies it to the Catholic Church.  :facepalm:
    VCR isn’t novus ordo. She used to be, as were MANY on CI.  She switched over to tradition when her old church got really bad.  I’m not sure where she attends Mass, but I believe she and her h. live in the Philadelphia/New Jersey area.  I’ve met her personally, so she’s definitely not novus ordo!

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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #57 on: May 17, 2022, 08:41:47 PM »
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  • VCR isn’t novus ordo. She used to be, as were MANY on CI.  She switched over to tradition when her old church got really bad.  I’m not sure where she attends Mass, but I believe she and her h. live in the Philadelphia/New Jersey area.  I’ve met her personally, so she’s definitely not novus ordo!
    She said she goes to the NO church.

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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #58 on: May 17, 2022, 09:34:46 PM »
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  • She said she goes to the NO church.
    Find that quote in context for me, please.  

    Taken out of context, the same could be said of me.  This past January drove 25 miles out of my way to go to the novus ordo church where my grandmother took me as a child, way back in 1962.  I lit a candle and prayed for her soul.  

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    Re: Over 200 bishops in USA
    « Reply #59 on: May 19, 2022, 09:31:48 AM »
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  • Find that quote in context for me, please. 

    Taken out of context, the same could be said of me.  This past January I drove 25 miles out of my way to go to the novus ordo church where my grandmother took me as a child, way back in 1962.  I lit a candle and prayed for her soul. 
    "Last Monday, we went to funeral of mother of novus Ordo priest.  

    "Several of us do go eucharistic adoration at novus Ordo too.  

    "We also get together with local novus Ordo to pray the rosary in public too."

    I don't know how to link the specific post.