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Offline MaterDominici

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« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2016, 11:42:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: Caraffa
    Drew Johnson,  


    This is an interesting guy. He posted about the Cruz scandal on Mar 14 and attributed it to the Trump campaign.

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    SCANDAL: Within 24 hrs of #Rubio dropping out, #Trump (who had at least 2 affairs) will leak info about a #Cruz extramarital affair #tcot


    Says he can verify 2 of the mistresses, but that Amanda Carpenter is innocent.

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    I strongly believe @amandacarpenter is being treated unfairly. I don't know of any credible person who believes she has done anything wrong.


    And is a #nevertrump supporter who was a fan of Rand Paul, Scott Walker, and Rick Perry.

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    Just think, a few months ago, Rand Paul, Scott Walker & Rick Perry were all in the race. America could've very easily had a decent president


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    Rick Perry didn't vote in TX primary. If he won TX as a 3rd Party candidate & neither GOP or Dem got 270 EC votes,House could make him POTUS


    Something about that combination makes me think he's believable. More reputable than the Nat Enq, anyway.
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    « Reply #31 on: March 30, 2016, 11:49:41 PM »
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  • This video better presents the proof that cruz had this affair.  Cuz's wife was "astonished" -  

    The symbolism/significance of the temporary tattoo is that cruz has seen parts of amanda carpenters flesh that are not to be seen.  Because, the tattoo is placed on her back/shoulder flesh.  And, as you can see in the video, cruz is missing his jacket.  And, amanda carpenter is wearing it.  After doing this act, amanda carpenter is given the go ahead to go on live tv and deny it all.  It is diabolical.  
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    « Reply #32 on: March 31, 2016, 12:32:10 AM »
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    This video better presents the proof that cruz had this affair.  Cuz's wife was "astonished" -  

    The symbolism/significance of the temporary tattoo is that cruz has seen parts of amanda carpenters flesh that are not to be seen.  Because, the tattoo is placed on her back/shoulder flesh.  And, as you can see in the video, cruz is missing his jacket.  And, amanda carpenter is wearing it.  After doing this act, amanda carpenter is given the go ahead to go on live tv and deny it all.  It is diabolical.  


    So you think the ladies' 3/4 sleeve coat in black completes Cruz's look? I thought you were of the opinion that crossover fashions were more of Rubio's thing?
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    « Reply #33 on: March 31, 2016, 01:27:39 AM »
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  • I'd like to see Claudel dedicate one of his remaining posts to an analysis of Trump.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    « Reply #34 on: March 31, 2016, 06:26:19 AM »
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    I'd like to see Claudel dedicate one of his remaining posts to an analysis of Trump.


    Me too.


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    « Reply #35 on: March 31, 2016, 06:47:56 AM »
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  • Cruz is sleazy punk who is desperate, and he's going to lose the GOP nomination, even if the party splits into many factions.

    The dynamic of Trump is too strong.
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    « Reply #36 on: March 31, 2016, 07:39:04 AM »
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    Great article in the OP. It demonstrates that Trump is who he claims to be, and who his base believes him to be: a real political outsider, with a supple, original, and outsider's perspective on national policy, who has entered the race out of patriotism.

    It's possible that he began as a protest candidate, possible but unlikely. However that may be, he has proved his commitment and stepped into the shoes his base has asked him to fill.

    I think it's a shame that the writer got cold feet when she understood he was for real. There are these people - and she is one of them - who can agree that things like illegal immigration, globalism, and Islam pose huge dangers to their nation, yet won't stomach any policy designed to put a halt to them. We call these people quislings and cowards.

    But Americans turn out to his rallies in their tens of thousands for the very reason she turned tail: Trump is for real.






    Because the best way to save a neo-pagan nation is to put an atheist with a nude model wife in office.


    I hope you realize that the issues you labeled above will be inflamed by Trump not ended. We've been bombing Muslims for 30+ years if it was working we would have won by now. Trump has used illegals on numerous cases to build many parts of his empire, the liberals should have highlighted that by now because he doesn't even try to hide it. How has Trump vowed to destroy American globalism? Or are his supporters imagining things again?


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    « Reply #37 on: March 31, 2016, 08:31:13 AM »
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    Because the best way to save a neo-pagan nation is to put an atheist with a nude model wife in office.


    I hope you realize that the issues you labeled above will be inflamed by Trump not ended. We've been bombing Muslims for 30+ years if it was working we would have won by now. Trump has used illegals on numerous cases to build many parts of his empire, the liberals should have highlighted that by now because he doesn't even try to hide it. How has Trump vowed to destroy American globalism? Or are his supporters imagining things again?



    I could be wrong, but I think that Trump's wife did some nude modeling a long time ago. She's 45 years old now. And she speaks five languages fluently.

    My I ask how you know that Trump is an atheist? He has described himself as a presbyterian, and he collects bibles. His mother was from a very religious Protestant area of Scotland (Isle of Lewis). He may be a nominal Prot, that's true, but better to have a nominal prot than a Southern Baptist, like Cruz, IMO. Southern Baptists tend to be heavily influenced by Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, as well as generally being anti-Catholic, but I've not seen evidence as yet that Cruz is anti-Catholic, or a freemason.

    Rafael Cruz, Ted's dad, seems to have some sort of end-times manifest destiny thing going on. Ted Cruz himself sounds like a Baptist preacher when he speaks, which creeps me out.

     Regarding illegals, I think that Trump stated that has put greater effort into making sure that his many businesses do not employ illegals. Unless you can provide accurate and reliable evidence to the contrary.

    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    « Reply #38 on: March 31, 2016, 10:28:41 AM »
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    5 "faith" facts about Donald Trump:  
      RNS Link:



    (RNS)  Donald Trump, the New York real estate billionaire and reality television star fabled for bluster (and bad hair), has ruled the polls leading into primary season.

    And he’s done it with minimal — and late — attention to the GOP’s most loyal base of conservative evangelicals. Making up perhaps for lost time, Trump went to the nation’s largest Christian university, Liberty University, in January to pledge, “I’m going to protect Christians,” who, he said, are losing their power in American society.

    Even a tangle with Pope Francis over whether Trump’s views on migrants were “not Christian” didn’t halt Trump’s ability to draw votes from across the religious spectrum right up through Super Tuesday.

    Here are five faith facts about Donald Trump.

    READ: What do 2016 election contenders believe? Check the RNS ‘5 faith facts’ series

    1. He identifies as a Presbyterian.

    He told Christian Broadcasting Network in 2012: “I’m a Protestant; I’m a Presbyterian. And you know I’ve had a good relationship with the church over the years. I think religion is a wonderful thing. I think my religion is a wonderful religion.”

    For years he’s attended Marble Collegiate Church, a Reformed Church in America congregation and once the pulpit of Norman Vincent Peale, author of the mega-best-seller “The Power of Positive Thinking.” Trump has mentioned Peale so frequently in his campaign that the late minister’s son told media his father would not have been pleased.

    Then Trump added: “I’m a Sunday church person.” He made good on that statement in January in Iowa when he attended the Sunday morning service at First Presbyterian Church in Muscatine, Iowa, one week before the Iowa caucus.

    The Associated Press reported Trump sang hymns (including “God Is Here”) and dropped $50 bills in the offering plate. The subject of the sermon — how Christianity requires the welcoming of the stranger — was particularly relevant for Trump, who has called for banning Muslims from entering the United States.


    2. One religion Trump seems to think is not so wonderful is Islam.


    In the lead-up to the 2012 presidential election, Trump told Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly that there is a “Muslim problem.” “I don’t notice Swedish people knocking down the World Trade Center,” Trump said, and then moved on to the so-called Ground Zero mosque. “I came out very strongly against the mosque being built virtually across the street.”

    But Trump assured O’Reilly there are many “fabulous Muslims” in the world.

    Trump berated political activist Pamela Geller in May 2015 for launching a “Draw the Prophet” contest in Texas. “What is she doing drawing Muhammad? I mean, it’s disgusting,” he said on Fox News’ “Fox & Friends.” “Isn’t there something else they could be doing? Drawing Muhammad?”

    3. He collects Bibles.

    In the same 2012 CBN interview, Trump said fans often send him Bibles and he keeps every one of them “in a very nice place.” “There’s no way I would ever throw anything, to do anything negative to a Bible,” Trump said.

    Trump has been known to take one along to wave at campaign events, but he has said: “I would have a fear of doing something other than very positive, so actually I store them and keep them and sometimes give them away to other people but I do get sent a lot of Bibles and I like that. I think that’s great.”

    4. Evangelicals are still skeptical.


    Popular Christian blogger Rachel Held Evans points out, “His scant church attendance and clumsiness at citing Scripture have not gone unnoticed here in the Bible Belt.”

    Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission has said that evangelicals who vote for Trump abandon their values and join the side of the culture war where “image and celebrity and money and power and social Darwinist ‘winning’ trump the conservation of moral principles and a just society.”

    When Trump spoke to students at Liberty University, founded by the late evangelical power broker Jerry Falwell, things were a little bumpy — Trump misspoke the name of a book of the Bible and named his book “The Art of the Deal” as the second-best book in the world — after the Bible, of course.

    5. On the campaign trail


    He is confident in his own powers as well as a higher power. Trump has said:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #39 on: March 31, 2016, 10:38:01 AM »
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  • Thanks, Incredulous, for posting the above info regarding Trump's religious views.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    « Reply #40 on: March 31, 2016, 10:46:12 AM »
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  • Quote from: Incredulous
     
    5 "faith" facts about Donald Trump:  
      RNS Link:



    (RNS)  Donald Trump, the New York real estate billionaire and reality television star fabled for bluster (and bad hair), has ruled the polls leading into primary season.

    And he’s done it with minimal — and late — attention to the GOP’s most loyal base of conservative evangelicals. Making up perhaps for lost time, Trump went to the nation’s largest Christian university, Liberty University, in January to pledge, “I’m going to protect Christians,” who, he said, are losing their power in American society.

    Even a tangle with Pope Francis over whether Trump’s views on migrants were “not Christian” didn’t halt Trump’s ability to draw votes from across the religious spectrum right up through Super Tuesday.

    Here are five faith facts about Donald Trump.

    READ: What do 2016 election contenders believe? Check the RNS ‘5 faith facts’ series

    1. He identifies as a ####ian.

    He told Christian Broadcasting Network in 2012: “I’m a Protestant; I’m a ####ian. And you know I’ve had a good relationship with the church over the years. I think religion is a wonderful thing. I think my religion is a wonderful religion.”

    For years he’s attended Marble Collegiate Church, a Reformed Church in America congregation and once the pulpit of Norman Vincent Peale, author of the mega-best-seller “The Power of Positive Thinking.” Trump has mentioned Peale so frequently in his campaign that the late minister’s son told media his father would not have been pleased.

    Then Trump added: “I’m a Sunday church person.” He made good on that statement in January in Iowa when he attended the Sunday morning service at First ####ian Church in Muscatine, Iowa, one week before the Iowa caucus.

    The Associated Press reported Trump sang hymns (including “God Is Here”) and dropped $50 bills in the offering plate. The subject of the sermon — how Christianity requires the welcoming of the stranger — was particularly relevant for Trump, who has called for banning Muslims from entering the United States.


    2. One religion Trump seems to think is not so wonderful is Islam.


    In the lead-up to the 2012 presidential election, Trump told Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly that there is a “Muslim problem.” “I don’t notice Swedish people knocking down the World Trade Center,” Trump said, and then moved on to the so-called Ground Zero mosque. “I came out very strongly against the mosque being built virtually across the street.”

    But Trump assured O’Reilly there are many “fabulous Muslims” in the world.

    Trump berated political activist Pamela Geller in May 2015 for launching a “Draw the Prophet” contest in Texas. “What is she doing drawing Muhammad? I mean, it’s disgusting,” he said on Fox News’ “Fox & Friends.” “Isn’t there something else they could be doing? Drawing Muhammad?”

    3. He collects Bibles.

    In the same 2012 CBN interview, Trump said fans often send him Bibles and he keeps every one of them “in a very nice place.” “There’s no way I would ever throw anything, to do anything negative to a Bible,” Trump said.

    Trump has been known to take one along to wave at campaign events, but he has said: “I would have a fear of doing something other than very positive, so actually I store them and keep them and sometimes give them away to other people but I do get sent a lot of Bibles and I like that. I think that’s great.”

    4. Evangelicals are still skeptical.


    Popular Christian blogger Rachel Held Evans points out, “His scant church attendance and clumsiness at citing Scripture have not gone unnoticed here in the Bible Belt.”

    Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission has said that evangelicals who vote for Trump abandon their values and join the side of the culture war where “image and celebrity and money and power and social Darwinist ‘winning’ trump the conservation of moral principles and a just society.”

    When Trump spoke to students at Liberty University, founded by the late evangelical power broker Jerry Falwell, things were a little bumpy — Trump misspoke the name of a book of the Bible and named his book “The Art of the Deal” as the second-best book in the world — after the Bible, of course.

    5. On the campaign trail


    He is confident in his own powers as well as a higher power. Trump has said:


    In our newspaper today, Trump said women who abort their children should be punished.  He went on to say he doesn't know how yet.

    Sounds Pro Life to me.
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    « Reply #41 on: March 31, 2016, 10:47:16 AM »
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  • Incredulous forgot to mention that Trump attended the Jesuit Fordham U for 2 yrs.  :detective:
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    « Reply #42 on: March 31, 2016, 01:15:19 PM »
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    In our newspaper today, Trump said women who abort their children should be punished.  He went on to say he doesn't know how yet.

    Sounds Pro Life to me.


    The problem with print media is that it can't keep up with Trump's changes of position. He's already retracted this statement.

    Did anyone see the aired segment? I'm wondering what they did as he'd already back peddled on what he said before the segment even aired on TV. Too many people disagreed with him, so he quickly fell in line.

    Honestly, I don't think he really believed this position to begin with. Rather, he *thought* that it was a popular position among conservatives because it's repeated so often by the liberals he's listening to.
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    « Reply #43 on: March 31, 2016, 02:18:52 PM »
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    Because, he has said many times, he has a slow(trigger) finger.


    Trump wants US allies in Asia to develop nuclear weapons systems. So, no matter how slow his trigger is, there will be someone else out there who can pull first if Trump's vision comes to pass.
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    « Reply #44 on: March 31, 2016, 03:09:42 PM »
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  • I just ordered my Trump t-shirt (pink).
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