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Obama: We are not a Christian nation -- Oh yeah?
« on: May 18, 2009, 09:50:18 AM »
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  • President  Barack Obama said in Turkey:

    "We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jєωιѕн nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values."


    I found this very interesting. Do  you know the Preamble for your state?

    Alabama  1901, Preamble  We the  people of the State of Alabama , invoking the favor and guidance of  Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution..
    Alaska  1956, Preamble We,  the people of Alaska , grateful to God and to those who founded our  nation and pioneered this great land.
    Arizona  1911, Preamble  We,  the people of the State of Arizona , grateful to Almighty God for  our liberties, do ordain this Constitution...
    Arkansas  1874, Preamble  We,  the people of the State of Arkansas , grateful to Almighty God for  the privilege of choosing our own form of government...
    California  1879, Preamble  We,  the People of the State of California , grateful to Almighty God for  our freedom...
    Colorado  1876, Preamble We,  the people of Colorado , with profound reverence for the Supreme  Ruler of Universe...
    Connecticut  1818, Preamble.  The  People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good  Providence of God in  permitting them to enjoy.
    Delaware  1897, Preamble  Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of  worshipping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of  their consciences...
    Florida  1885, Preamble We,  the people of the State of Florida , grateful to Almighty God for  our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution...
    Georgia  1777, Preamble We,  the people of Georgia , relying upon protection and guidance of  Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution...
    Hawaii  1959, Preamble We ,  the people of Hawaii , Grateful for Divine Guidance ... Establish  this Constitution.
    Idaho  1889, Preamble We,  the people of the State of Idaho , grateful to Almighty God for our  freedom, to secure its blessings.
    Illinois  1870, Preamble We,  the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for  the civil , political and religious liberty which He hath so long  permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our  endeavors.
    Indiana  1851, Preamble We,  the People of the State of Indiana , grateful to Almighty God for  the free exercise of the right to choose our form of government.
    Iowa  1857, Preamble We,  the People of the St ate of Iowa , grateful to the Supreme Being for  the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him  for a continuation of these blessings, establish this Constitution.
    Kansas  1859, Preamble We,  the people of Kansas , grateful to Almighty God for our civil and  religious privileges establish this Constitution.
    Kentucky  1891, Preamble.. We,  the people of the Commonwealth are grateful to Almighty God for the  civil, political and religious liberties..
    Louisiana  1921, Preamble We,  the people of the State of Louisiana , grateful to Almighty God for  the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy.
    Maine  1820, Preamble We  the People of Maine acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness  of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an  opportunity .. And imploring His aid and direction.
    Maryland  1776, Preamble We,  the people of the state of Maryland , grateful to Almighty God for  our civil and religious liberty...
    Massachusetts  1780, Preamble  We...the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful  hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe In the  course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His  direction
    Michigan  1908, Preamble.    We, the people of the State of Michigan , grateful to  Almighty God for the blessings of freedom, establish this Constitution.
    Minnesota,  1857, Preamble We,  the people of the State of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil  and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings:
    Mississippi  1890, Preamble We,  the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to  Almighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work.
    Missouri  1845, Preamble We,  the people of Missouri , with profound reverence for the Supreme  Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness . Establish  this Constitution...
    Montana  1889, Preamble.  We,  the people of Montana , grateful to Almighty God for  the  blessings  of liberty establish this Constitution ..
    Nebraska  1875, Preamble We,  the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom . Establish  this Constitution.
    Nevada  1864, Preamble We  the people of the State of Nevada , grateful to Almighty God for our  freedom, establish this Constitution...
    New  Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V Every  individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God  according to the dictates of his own conscience.
    New  Jersey 1844, Preamble We,  the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for  civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to  enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.
    New  Mexico 1911, Preamble We,  the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings  of liberty..
    New  York 1846, Preamble We,  the people of the State of New York, grateful to Almighty God for  our freedom, in order to secure its blessings.
    North  Carolina 1868, Preamble We  the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God,  the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and  religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for  the continuance of those...
    North  Dakota 1889, Preamble We ,  the people of North Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for the  blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain...
    Ohio  1852, Preamble We  the people of the state of Ohio, grateful to Almighty God for our  freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common.
    Oklahoma  1907, Preamble  Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and  perpetuate the blessings of liberty, establish this
    Oregon  1857, Bill of Rights, Article I Section 2. All  men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God  according to the dictates of their consciences
    Pennsylvania  1776, Preamble We,  the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God for the  blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His  guidance....
    Rhode  Island 1842, Preamble. We  the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for  the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us  to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing...
    South  Carolina, 1778, Preamble We,  the people of he State of South Carolina grateful to God for our  liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
    South  Dakota 1889, Preamble We,  the people of South Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for our civil  and religious liberties ...
    Tennessee  1796, Art. XI..III. That  all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty  God according to the dictates of their conscience...
    Texas  1845, Preamble We  the People of the Republic of Texas, acknowledging, with gratitude,  the grace and beneficence of God.
    Utah  1896, Preamble  Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this  Constitution.
    Vermont  1777, Preamble  Whereas all government ought to enable the individuals who compose  it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the  Author of Existence has bestowed on man ..
    Virginia  1776, Bill of Rights, XVI  Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator can be directed only  by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice  Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other
    Washington  1889, Preamble We  the People of the State of Washington, grateful to the Supreme Ruler  of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution
    West  Virginia 1872, Preamble Since  through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political  and religious liberty, we, the people of West Virginia reaffirm our  faith in and constant reliance upon God ...
    Wisconsin  1848, Preamble We,  the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom,  domestic tranquility...
    Wyoming  1890, Preamble We,  the people of the State of Wyoming, grateful to God for our civil,  political, and religious liberties, establish this Constitution...

    After  reviewing acknowledgments of God from all 50 state constitutions, one is faced with the prospect that maybe, the ACLU  and the out-of-control federal courts are wrong!    Dead  wrong!   If you found this to be 'Food for thought' send to as many as you think  will be enlightened as I hope you were.
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    Offline Lybus

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    Obama: We are not a Christian nation -- Oh yeah?
    « Reply #1 on: May 18, 2009, 06:53:03 PM »
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  • I can see that nothing ever dampens your spirits, Uriel ;) .

    I'm just glad Wisconsin is a Christian State :)

    In regards to being a responsible man, would it be interesting to learn, after six years of accuмulating all the wisdom you could, that you had it right all alon


    Offline Telesphorus

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    Obama: We are not a Christian nation -- Oh yeah?
    « Reply #2 on: May 18, 2009, 08:20:49 PM »
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  • Search for the word Christian on the page.

    No, America is a pagan nation, unfortunately.

    Although John Jay said this:

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    "Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers. And it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest, of a Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." First Chief Justice of Supreme Court John Jay to Jedidiah Morse February 28, 1797


    Yes it is.  Too bad they didn't see to it in 1776, or thereafter.

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    Obama: We are not a Christian nation -- Oh yeah?
    « Reply #3 on: May 18, 2009, 08:36:37 PM »
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  • God can mean anything-- some believe satan is him. There is not one mention of the word Christianity, Christian, Jesus or Jesus Christ in either the Articles of Confed, the Dec of Ind, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights or any state constitution. The Judaic hexagram has been on the reverse seal of the Us since the beginning. It was only put on the dollar in 1933.

    Catholics were all over America( west of the Miss mostly)  100 yrs b4 Prots ever got here.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Obama: We are not a Christian nation -- Oh yeah?
    « Reply #4 on: May 19, 2009, 05:27:48 AM »
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  • America is most assuredly not a Christian nation.


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    Obama: We are not a Christian nation -- Oh yeah?
    « Reply #5 on: May 19, 2009, 09:34:55 AM »
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  • Quote from: sedetrad
    America is most assuredly not a Christian nation.


    In its infancy, before the heretics arrived, it was. California for example, almost every street in San Jose, now a corrupt liberal city, is named after a Catholic saint - my mother's friend used to live in on San Tomas Aquino street. There is a whole square named Santa Teresa Avila. Of course, after the Masons and Protestants took over, America became the corrupt regime that it now is.

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    Obama: We are not a Christian nation -- Oh yeah?
    « Reply #6 on: June 10, 2009, 08:09:43 PM »
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  • I see people were discussing all this long before I got here...

    Yeah, America separated Church and state and is a pagan nation.  The "God" that it speaks of in the constitutions of each state, unfortunately, is the Great Architect of Masonry.

    Mike Judge made a movie called Idiocracy, which is full of lies, but one throwaway gag sticks with me, a hospital called "St. God's.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/atwatervillage/541544030/

    This is typical Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, talking about "God" as some vague higher power but without ever invoking any saints... Why?  Because saints are clearly CATHOLIC and had a certain model of behavior.  Saints knew the REAL God, who isn't just the "Architect" but demands certain actions from us and has specific likes and dislikes, known to us from the Bible but also the Catholic tradition as revealed by the Holy Spirit.  

    Sadly, even the divine name of Jesus can be drawn into lies through the Protestants.  That's why I wear a medallion of Mary around my neck, so people know I'm not Protestant.  
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

    Offline Belloc

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    Obama: We are not a Christian nation -- Oh yeah?
    « Reply #7 on: August 05, 2009, 11:42:41 AM »
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  • True that most state constitutions recognize God, but nowhere in US Constitution or founding docuмents notes Jesus Christ as King.......one wonders....
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic