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Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: Matthew on June 12, 2014, 11:04:41 PM
Hahaha!

In totally unrelated news, some claim that Obama is ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ...
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: SenzaDubbio on June 13, 2014, 12:08:53 AM
Question: Does God love the strong and proud or the weak and humble?
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: Croix de Fer on June 13, 2014, 02:04:35 AM
The Difference Between Putin And Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rybEA3axS5Y
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: MariaCatherine on June 13, 2014, 07:44:53 AM
Quote from: SenzaDubbio
Question: Does God love the strong and proud or the weak and humble?

As Chesterton said, when men are too proud to fight, the humble must do it.
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: MariaCatherine on June 29, 2014, 12:56:45 PM
One thing Putin could do that would win even more hearts is apologize for the crimes committed by the KGB during his involvement. The west wouldn't publicize it, of course, but that would only make him look even better in comparison.

BTW, Putin was born on the feast of Our Lady of the Rosary - Oct. 7.  

Come on, man, you can do it!
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: Croix de Fer on June 29, 2014, 01:13:26 PM
Quote from: MariaCatherine
One thing Putin could do that would win even more hearts is apologize for the crimes committed by the KGB during his involvement. The west wouldn't publicize it, of course, but that would only make him look even better in comparison.

BTW, Putin was born on the feast of Our Lady of the Rosary - Oct. 7.  

Come on, man, you can do it!


Maybe this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bSAB5OPkwQ&sns=fb) is one step in that direction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bSAB5OPkwQ&sns=fb

Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: MariaCatherine on June 29, 2014, 01:19:48 PM
Wait.  Didn't Our Lady say the errors of Russia?  

I am not denying that the Jews are our enemies.  I know very well that they are.  But this is a question I've been meaning to ask for a while.  What do you make of it?
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: Croix de Fer on June 29, 2014, 03:03:40 PM
Quote from: MariaCatherine
Wait.  Didn't Our Lady say the errors of Russia?  

I am not denying that the Jews are our enemies.  I know very well that they are.  But this is a question I've been meaning to ask for a while.  What do you make of it?


Our Lady did not give a definitive time frame on how long Russia, per say, would spread its errors, but we do know these errors have already been spread throughout southeast Asia (including wars in Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos); these errors were spread through Central America (Nicaragua and Honduras) and Cuba, and parts of South America; and they were spread through eastern Europe by manifesting as Soviet satellite nations. Also, these errors was spread, and is still being spread, through America in the form of a depraved government violating the rights of its citizens and promoting cultural Marxism. So that part of her message has come to fruition; but are we to believe Russia, per say, will keep spreading errors? Russia, today, seems to be the anti-thesis of those errors in some ways, because Putin has criminalized fαɢɢօtry in public spaces and he's banned fruit "marriage". Putin has also outlawed insulting the Church and any form of public mockery directed at her. This does not sound like "spreading her errors" anymore to me. The JewSA is the exact opposite. The U.S. government and American culture are completely diabolical. Make no mistake about it. The American people will be held accountable for allowing such a Christ-hating government to represent them and for willfully consuming a blasphemous culture, and for allowing the murder of the most vulnerable and weak of human life - unborn children.

Some, or perhaps many, trads (I'm not saying you) need to DE-program the Americanism in which they've been indoctrinated. Despite trads knowing we live in a sinful culture that's hostile to the Church and Faith, there is still a sense of American "righteousness" among these same trads, hence, a de facto "moral high ground" because we're the USA, and Russia is, de facto, the "evil empire". This is a fallacious default mindset among most Americans, unfortunately, including some trads. Trads better wake up.
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: MariaCatherine on June 29, 2014, 06:35:24 PM
All of that is true.  And thank you for the video showing Putin giving the what-for to the Jews.  That's gold.  

He could still apologize if he wanted to start being truly honest.  Maybe he's not confident enough for that yet.  It wouldn't be easy by any means.  But it would go an awfully long way with Eastern Europe if he acknowledged that the communists did not liberate anyone from the nαzιs.  
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: MariaCatherine on July 19, 2014, 03:03:40 PM
Quote from: ascent
The Difference Between Putin And Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rybEA3axS5Y

But America was never a Christian nation.

I wonder if Obama is just too confused to be effective at anything at all. He openly supports both the Jews and the Moslems, while occasionally claiming to be Christian.

God bless Putin for taking on the banking bastards. I should pray daily for his conversion. It would be great to see him in eternity!
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: Matthew on July 19, 2014, 04:13:27 PM
Quote from: ascent
Quote from: MariaCatherine
Wait.  Didn't Our Lady say the errors of Russia?  

I am not denying that the Jews are our enemies.  I know very well that they are.  But this is a question I've been meaning to ask for a while.  What do you make of it?


Our Lady did not give a definitive time frame on how long Russia, per say, would spread its errors, but we do know these errors have already been spread throughout southeast Asia (including wars in Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos); these errors were spread through Central America (Nicaragua and Honduras) and Cuba, and parts of South America; and they were spread through eastern Europe by manifesting as Soviet satellite nations. Also, these errors was spread, and is still being spread, through America in the form of a depraved government violating the rights of its citizens and promoting cultural Marxism. So that part of her message has come to fruition; but are we to believe Russia, per say, will keep spreading errors? Russia, today, seems to be the anti-thesis of those errors in some ways, because Putin has criminalized fαɢɢօtry in public spaces and he's banned fruit "marriage". Putin has also outlawed insulting the Church and any form of public mockery directed at her. This does not sound like "spreading her errors" anymore to me. The JewSA is the exact opposite. The U.S. government and American culture are completely diabolical. Make no mistake about it. The American people will be held accountable for allowing such a Christ-hating government to represent them and for willfully consuming a blasphemous culture, and for allowing the murder of the most vulnerable and weak of human life - unborn children.

Some, or perhaps many, trads (I'm not saying you) need to DE-program the Americanism in which they've been indoctrinated. Despite trads knowing we live in a sinful culture that's hostile to the Church and Faith, there is still a sense of American "righteousness" among these same trads, hence, a de facto "moral high ground" because we're the USA, and Russia is, de facto, the "evil empire". This is a fallacious default mindset among most Americans, unfortunately, including some trads. Trads better wake up.


Well said!

We must not forget that America is a Communist nation right now. If you look at all the goals in the book "The Naked Communist", you will see that they have ALL come to pass -- even if in America's case we became Communist without a bloody revolution. We can call America whatever we want on paper -- a democracy, republic, or Sesame Street. It doesn't change the fact that we're objectively Communist.

The "one percenters"? They are the oligarchs. The rest of us are the Proletariat, working for just enough to survive, living with substandard housing, appliances, goods, and food...and waiting in long lines to get it (think: Wal-mart. They always have WAY too few lines open, a paltry choice of goods that all fall apart, and ZERO customer service -- that's the future)

We have a few vestiges of non-communism (a few mom & pop stores, for example, as well as small farms, etc.) but with every passing year, that is passing away. The future is wage slavery at a place like Wal-mart or others like them (read this article about working for a large A to Z warehouse sometime -- it will scare the hell out of you! http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/The-future-of-low-end-employment-outright-slavery)
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: Traditional Guy 20 on July 19, 2014, 08:55:20 PM
Matthew, I must give my criticism of your argument. America is not communist, America is a capitalist nation.
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: procopius on July 19, 2014, 11:44:07 PM
Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
Matthew, I must give my criticism of your argument. America is not communist, America is a capitalist nation.


Who's the most capitalist nation?  China that has no minimum wage and workers that work 16 hours and are paid like 5 cent a day or the USA that has a minimum wage, unions, worker's rights, etc.  It takes a while to figure it out, but capitalism and communism are phoney categories to apply to nation states.
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: Robin on July 20, 2014, 10:13:30 PM
America is a communist nation now. Russias' former errors are filling the world.  There is no perfect place on earth as it is on earth. Heaven is truly the only perfect place that exists.  However, laws that one would expect to be in place in the "freedom loving" USA....protecting the unborn, the weak , the elderly are gone...killing those "kinds" is encouraged and acted upon and even paid for by government.  Behaviors that we find particularly offensive and sinful are Traditional Catholics are condoned, protected, and permitted in the USA . Abortion is banned after 12 weeks in Russia at this time, abortions performed before 12 weeks...garner fines for those in involved, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ behaviors, appearance, and 'so called marriage' is outlawed in Russia.

Recently Mr. Putin held a gathering to honor large Russian Families who had many children....citizens as well as government officials in this nation consider
parents of large families reproductive criminals in this nation...being the parents of 11 children my husband and I have known that for many years...our eldest is 38, youngest 16.   I could go on but it appears that
things have changed...and not for the better.
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: MyrnaM on July 21, 2014, 11:30:33 AM
Do you really believe that God is pleased with either one of them?

In the eyes of God, what difference does it make how the world compares one to another if both are evil doers.  

I can't follow your logic.

 :sleep:

Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: Croix de Fer on July 22, 2014, 06:19:31 PM
Quote from: Matthew
(read this article about working for a large A to Z warehouse sometime -- it will scare the hell out of you! http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/The-future-of-low-end-employment-outright-slavery)


Matthew, that link is wrong. The article doesn't come up.
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 22, 2014, 06:57:10 PM
There is no comparison. Putin is a true White Man, and Obama is just a
NIGGER in chains by the JEWS.
The Jews put Obama in office, and can easily take him out of office.
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: Rosemary on July 24, 2014, 11:33:01 PM
Russian Sovereignty Under Attack- Putin

http://henrymakow.com/2014/07/russian-sovereignty-under-attack.html
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: s2srea on July 24, 2014, 11:53:29 PM
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
There is no comparison. Putin is a true White Man, and Obama is just a
NIGGER in chains by the JEWS.
The Jews put Obama in office, and can easily take him out of office.


One wonders if Archbishop Lefebvre would have been successful in converting the blacks in Africa with such language.....
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: Rosemary on July 25, 2014, 12:22:19 AM
Quote from: ascent
The Difference Between Putin And Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rybEA3axS5Y


Thank you for posting that video.  It is very good and shows you why the globalists want Putin out.
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: Traditional Guy 20 on July 26, 2014, 09:02:39 AM
Quote from: s2srea
One wonders if Archbishop Lefebvre would have been successful in converting the blacks in Africa with such language.....


Oh please rap music uses the "nigger" word in every song they use. There is no evidence that RomanCatholic1953 is a racist, except in your own mind, a useful shill of cultural Marxists.

By the way I wonder why you Hispanics use such racist words against us "gringos"?

"We have an aging white population in this country. They are dying. They are not making babies. The explosion is in our population. They are shitting in their pants in fear! I love it!" Jose Angel Guiterrez

"We are a proud bronze people of a proud bronze nation." MECHA

"We are here to show White Protestant Los Angeles that we are here to stay! If anyone is going to be deported it is going to be you!"

Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 26, 2014, 10:21:40 AM
No comparison. Putin wants to go down as the Man that did not start
World War Three.   Obama only cares what his Jєωιѕн masters
dictate to him. He fears losing his office more than his historic place
in history. Even starting world war three, in which his Jєωιѕн masters
desires.
When the Jews become exposed more they want World War Three.
This slaughter in Gaza is telling the world the truth. :devil2:
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 26, 2014, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
Quote from: s2srea
One wonders if Archbishop Lefebvre would have been successful in converting the blacks in Africa with such language.....


Oh please rap music uses the "nigger" word in every song they use. There is no evidence that RomanCatholic1953 is a racist, except in your own mind, a useful shill of cultural Marxists.

By the way I wonder why you Hispanics use such racist words against us "gringos"?

"We have an aging white population in this country. They are dying. They are not making babies. The explosion is in our population. They are ####ting in their pants in fear! I love it!" Jose Angel Guiterrez

"We are a proud bronze people of a proud bronze nation." MECHA

"We are here to show White Protestant Los Angeles that we are here to stay! If anyone is going to be deported it is going to be you!"



I am not a Cultural Marxists nor a hater of other cultures and races.
I was taught that these are mortal sins.  If it was not for the Jews, we
would have true racial harmony and peace.  Jews conquer and divide
people  and uses all sides.  The reason I am hated by
my non white neighbor is because the Jew taught them so. It was
not always that way.
The truth us the Aztec Nation was never this far north, and there is
no evidence that it was in north America.  We Americans paid in
Gold to purchase the lands of Mexico, we did not steal it.  The
Mexicans have benefited as much as the Anglos in the progress
made in building a country.    My own stepfather, Joseph Ortega
who was in the Army Air Corp was commander of the Torrance
Army Airforce Base in Torrance, California during World War Two.
He came from a solid Roman Catholic Family in New Mexico.
His B-17 was one of the few in the sky during the Japanese
Attack on Peal Harbor on 12-7-1941.  There was a rumor afterwards
that the Japanese fleet was steaming towards the west coast of
the United States for a possible land invasion.  A temporary
Civilian Army made up of mostly of World War One Veterans
were ready arranged by my stepfather Joseph Ortega. This is
based on truth and can be verified, and something that Hispanics
can be proud of because these are the facts. The Aztec Empire
is myth.
Title: Obama vs Putin
Post by: Kephapaulos on July 30, 2014, 11:35:48 AM
I'm not sure what you mean, RC53. Do you disbelieve in the existence of the Aztec Empire or that it stretched into the area of the U.S.? I did not even think it reached even reached north of present-day Mexico.

As for comparing Putin and Obama, I respect Putin more. He displays more natural manly virtue and seems to show a true genuine concern for his nation and people. How often do you come across that here in the U.S. coming from politicians? Granted, I do know that Putin is divorced and that Obama is not, but in spite of that, I still have more respect for Putin. Putin has his ambitions, but he's doing a lot better job of running his nation I think that our President running the U.S. Russia is indeed being prepared to accept the Catholic faith. It will take time still.