Author Topic: Obama vs Putin (Read 4759 times)

Matthew · « **on:** June 12, 2014, 11:04:41 PM »

Hahaha!

In totally unrelated news, some claim that Obama is ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ...

SenzaDubbio · « **Reply #1 on:** June 13, 2014, 12:08:53 AM »

Question: Does God love the strong and proud or the weak and humble?

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #2 on:** June 13, 2014, 02:04:35 AM »

The Difference Between Putin And Obama

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #3 on:** June 13, 2014, 07:44:53 AM »

Quote from: SenzaDubbio

Question: Does God love the strong and proud or the weak and humble?

As Chesterton said, when men are too proud to fight, the humble must do it.

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #4 on:** June 29, 2014, 12:56:45 PM »

One thing Putin could do that would win even more hearts is apologize for the crimes committed by the KGB during his involvement. The west wouldn't publicize it, of course, but that would only make him look even better in comparison.

BTW, Putin was born on the feast of Our Lady of the Rosary - Oct. 7.

Come on, man, you can do it!

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #5 on:** June 29, 2014, 01:13:26 PM »

Quote from: MariaCatherine

One thing Putin could do that would win even more hearts is apologize for the crimes committed by the KGB during his involvement. The west wouldn't publicize it, of course, but that would only make him look even better in comparison.

BTW, Putin was born on the feast of Our Lady of the Rosary - Oct. 7.

Come on, man, you can do it!

Maybe is one step in that direction.

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #6 on:** June 29, 2014, 01:19:48 PM »

Wait. Didn't Our Lady say the errors of Russia?

I am not denying that the Jєωs are our enemies. I know very well that they are. But this is a question I've been meaning to ask for a while. What do you make of it?

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #7 on:** June 29, 2014, 03:03:40 PM »

Quote from: MariaCatherine

Wait. Didn't Our Lady say the errors of Russia?

I am not denying that the Jєωs are our enemies. I know very well that they are. But this is a question I've been meaning to ask for a while. What do you make of it?

Our Lady did not give a definitive time frame on how long Russia, per say, would spread its errors, but we do know these errors have already been spread throughout southeast Asia (including wars in Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos); these errors were spread through Central America (Nicaragua and Honduras) and Cuba, and parts of South America; and they were spread through eastern Europe by manifesting as Soviet satellite nations. Also, these errors was spread, and is still being spread, through America in the form of a depraved government violating the rights of its citizens and promoting cultural Marxism. So that part of her message has come to fruition; but are we to believe Russia, per say, will keep spreading errors? Russia, today, seems to be the anti-thesis of those errors in some ways, because Putin has criminalized fαɢɢօtry in public spaces and he's banned fruit "marriage". Putin has also outlawed insulting the Church and any form of public mockery directed at her. This does not sound like "spreading her errors" anymore to me. The JєωSA is the exact opposite. The U.S. government and American culture are completely diabolical. Make no mistake about it. The American people will be held accountable for allowing such a Christ-hating government to represent them and for willfully consuming a blasphemous culture, and for allowing the murder of the most vulnerable and weak of human life - unborn children.

Some, or perhaps many, trads (I'm not saying you) need to DE-program the Americanism in which they've been indoctrinated. Despite trads knowing we live in a sinful culture that's hostile to the Church and Faith, there is still a sense of American "righteousness" among these same trads, hence, a de facto "moral high ground" because we're the USA, and Russia is, de facto, the "evil empire". This is a fallacious default mindset among most Americans, unfortunately, including some trads. Trads better wake up.

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #8 on:** June 29, 2014, 06:35:24 PM »

All of that is true. And thank you for the video showing Putin giving the what-for to the Jєωs. That's gold.

He could still apologize if he wanted to start being truly honest. Maybe he's not confident enough for that yet. It wouldn't be easy by any means. But it would go an awfully long way with Eastern Europe if he acknowledged that the communists did not liberate anyone from the nαzιs.

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #9 on:** July 19, 2014, 03:03:40 PM »

Quote from: ascent

The Difference Between Putin And Obama

But America was never a Christian nation.

I wonder if Obama is just too confused to be effective at anything at all. He openly supports both the Jєωs and the Moslems, while occasionally claiming to be Christian.

God bless Putin for taking on the banking bastards. I should pray daily for his conversion. It would be great to see him in eternity!

Matthew · « **Reply #10 on:** July 19, 2014, 04:13:27 PM »

Quote from: ascent

Quote from: MariaCatherine
Wait. Didn't Our Lady say the errors of Russia?

I am not denying that the Jєωs are our enemies. I know very well that they are. But this is a question I've been meaning to ask for a while. What do you make of it?

Our Lady did not give a definitive time frame on how long Russia, per say, would spread its errors, but we do know these errors have already been spread throughout southeast Asia (including wars in Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos); these errors were spread through Central America (Nicaragua and Honduras) and Cuba, and parts of South America; and they were spread through eastern Europe by manifesting as Soviet satellite nations. Also, these errors was spread, and is still being spread, through America in the form of a depraved government violating the rights of its citizens and promoting cultural Marxism. So that part of her message has come to fruition; but are we to believe Russia, per say, will keep spreading errors? Russia, today, seems to be the anti-thesis of those errors in some ways, because Putin has criminalized fαɢɢօtry in public spaces and he's banned fruit "marriage". Putin has also outlawed insulting the Church and any form of public mockery directed at her. This does not sound like "spreading her errors" anymore to me. The JєωSA is the exact opposite. The U.S. government and American culture are completely diabolical. Make no mistake about it. The American people will be held accountable for allowing such a Christ-hating government to represent them and for willfully consuming a blasphemous culture, and for allowing the murder of the most vulnerable and weak of human life - unborn children.

Some, or perhaps many, trads (I'm not saying you) need to DE-program the Americanism in which they've been indoctrinated. Despite trads knowing we live in a sinful culture that's hostile to the Church and Faith, there is still a sense of American "righteousness" among these same trads, hence, a de facto "moral high ground" because we're the USA, and Russia is, de facto, the "evil empire". This is a fallacious default mindset among most Americans, unfortunately, including some trads. Trads better wake up.

Well said!

We must not forget that America is a Communist nation right now. If you look at all the goals in the book "The Naked Communist", you will see that they have ALL come to pass -- even if in America's case we became Communist without a bloody revolution. We can call America whatever we want on paper -- a democracy, republic, or Sesame Street. It doesn't change the fact that we're objectively Communist.

The "one percenters"? They are the oligarchs. The rest of us are the Proletariat, working for just enough to survive, living with substandard housing, appliances, goods, and food...and waiting in long lines to get it (think: Wal-mart. They always have WAY too few lines open, a paltry choice of goods that all fall apart, and ZERO customer service -- that's the future)

We have a few vestiges of non-communism (a few mom & pop stores, for example, as well as small farms, etc.) but with every passing year, that is passing away. The future is wage slavery at a place like Wal-mart or others like them (read this article about working for a large A to Z warehouse sometime -- it will scare the hell out of you! http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/The-future-of-low-end-employment-outright-slavery)

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 19, 2014, 08:55:20 PM »

Matthew, I must give my criticism of your argument. America is not communist, America is a capitalist nation.

procopius · « **Reply #12 on:** July 19, 2014, 11:44:07 PM »

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20

Matthew, I must give my criticism of your argument. America is not communist, America is a capitalist nation.

Who's the most capitalist nation? China that has no minimum wage and workers that work 16 hours and are paid like 5 cent a day or the USA that has a minimum wage, unions, worker's rights, etc. It takes a while to figure it out, but capitalism and communism are phoney categories to apply to nation states.

Robin · « **Reply #13 on:** July 20, 2014, 10:13:30 PM »

America is a communist nation now. Russias' former errors are filling the world. There is no perfect place on earth as it is on earth. Heaven is truly the only perfect place that exists. However, laws that one would expect to be in place in the "freedom loving" USA....protecting the unborn, the weak , the elderly are gone...killing those "kinds" is encouraged and acted upon and even paid for by government. Behaviors that we find particularly offensive and sinful are Traditional Catholics are condoned, protected, and permitted in the USA . Abortion is banned after 12 weeks in Russia at this time, abortions performed before 12 weeks...garner fines for those in involved, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ behaviors, appearance, and 'so called marriage' is outlawed in Russia.

Recently Mr. Putin held a gathering to honor large Russian Families who had many children....citizens as well as government officials in this nation consider
parents of large families reproductive criminals in this nation...being the parents of 11 children my husband and I have known that for many years...our eldest is 38, youngest 16. I could go on but it appears that
things have changed...and not for the better.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #14 on:** July 21, 2014, 11:30:33 AM »

Do you really believe that God is pleased with either one of them?

In the eyes of God, what difference does it make how the world compares one to another if both are evil doers.

I can't follow your logic.