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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 17, 2014, 06:18:56 PM

Title: Obama releases 3 Cuban spies
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 17, 2014, 06:18:56 PM
Why be surprised?   After all , the USA borrowed trillion dollars from a communist country.
Title: Obama releases 3 Cuban spies
Post by: poche on December 18, 2014, 04:26:19 AM
I think it is time that the embargo come to an end. The ending of the embargo will mean the beginning of the end of the Communist regime.  
Title: Obama releases 3 Cuban spies
Post by: Petertherock on December 18, 2014, 06:45:38 AM
How will this be the end of the communist regime? This just legitimizes the communist dictatorship and brutal regime. Of course, there isn't much difference between the Obama's and the Castro's so birds of a feather stick together!

At least we might get some good cigars from this!

 
Title: Obama releases 3 Cuban spies
Post by: Dolores on December 18, 2014, 10:32:52 AM
Quote from: Petertherock
How will this be the end of the communist regime? This just legitimizes the communist dictatorship and brutal regime. Of course, there isn't much difference between the Obama's and the Castro's so birds of a feather stick together!

At least we might get some good cigars from this!

 


And what will continuing the embargo accomplish?  After 54 years, it's pretty clear that it hasn't achieved much of anything.
Title: Obama releases 3 Cuban spies
Post by: LaramieHirsch on December 18, 2014, 12:43:49 PM
You know that, of course, this is all being pushed by Pope Francis, right?
Title: Obama releases 3 Cuban spies
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 19, 2014, 11:03:33 AM
Quote from: LaramieHirsch
You know that, of course, this is all being pushed by Pope Francis, right?


Is this true or just the media trying to justify it.
Title: Obama releases 3 Cuban spies
Post by: LaramieHirsch on December 19, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
Quote from: LaramieHirsch
You know that, of course, this is all being pushed by Pope Francis, right?


Is this true or just the media trying to justify it.


For the moment, I only have time to share this:

vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/the-vatican/detail/articolo/cuba-papa-parolin-usa-38157
Title: Obama releases 3 Cuban spies
Post by: LaramieHirsch on December 22, 2014, 01:23:57 AM
Consider the following statements about Pope Francis in the past few days:

"I'm still Catholic till the day I die, but I am a Catholic without a pope."

"The church is contaminated."

"I don't know what the pope was thinking.  I see a certain naivete in the pope."

"His Holiness [should] take up the cause of freedom and democracy."


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As opposed to...Marxism?


"He's trying to get a legacy at any price."

"He wants to be everywhere, he wants to be liked by everyone," Fernandez said. "That's his job to be a peace guy, but it doesn't accomplish a damn thing..."



What makes all of this hilarious is the fact that none of this is being spouted off by your usual suspects [us Traditionalists in the States or Europe].  This is being said about the pontiff BY CUBANS.

They are on the receiving end of meddling on the part of the Vatican in Cuba's affairs.  After 50 years of trying to control Cuban communism, America, with the help of the Vatican, has thrown up its hands and said, "Screw it!  We were wrong!"

At first, I thought that the opening of relations with Cuba was no big deal.  But the more I explore this issue, the more I begin to fall on the side of Cuban refugees who have maintained their faith IN SPITE of communist Cuba, and who will hopefully continue to keep their faith IN SPITE of Pope Francis.  

A historian, Jesus Mendez says: "[Pope Francis is] very concerned over the decline of Catholic fervor, primarily in Europe but also even in the United States and Canada, so of course he sees it important to have a high profile for the Catholic Church in Cuba."

I find this statement to be hilarious and pathetic.  Quite short sighted.  If anything, this recent action by America and the Vatican has only alienated Cuban Catholics even further from the Church.  Just like us Traditionalists.  

All of these quotations can be found in this news article, Pope's role in Cuba deal fractures Cuban-American flock (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20141221/us--cuban-american_catholics-2a70e2c00b.html).

I guess those Marxists are still dividing the masses, making them weaker and weaker.




-Laramie