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« on: November 09, 2016, 11:05:41 AM »
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  • (And very possibly ahead of time to some of the 540 Electors of the U.S. College of Electors who vote on December 19th in order to get them to flip to the witch.  Flipping of Electors, although rare is not unprecedented.)

    The Offer/Threat: Plata o Plomo (or blackmail -- real or made up)

    I believe that the NWO agenda which I think is safe to assume is one and the same with that of "the Prince of this World" would without a doubt include this offer/threat.  For all we know the offer/threat may have already been made expressly or tacitly to Mr. Trump before the election; and likewise if it was made before the election he may have already given an answer which depending on what it was may well have ensured that he would not be cheated out of winning the election.  Time, of course, will tell how well and for how long Mr. Trump manages to play chess with the NWO.  It is possible that he has already conceded defeat to their agenda and in return he has been granted the privilege of gaining the White House and the status of "Controlled Opposition in Chief."  Again, time will tell!

    A quick standard reference for the U.S. College of Electors:ELECTORAL COLLEGE

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    « Reply #1 on: November 09, 2016, 11:31:08 AM »
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  • Quote from: klasG4e
    (And very possibly ahead of time to some of the 540 Electors of the U.S. College of Electors who vote on December 19th in order to get them to flip to the witch.  Flipping of Electors, although rare is not unprecedented.)


    Individual electors have flipped, but never to such an extent that it changed the outcome of the election.  That would be unprecedented.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 09, 2016, 06:22:24 PM »
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  • The unprecedented flipping of enough Electors to throw the election for Hillary may seem a bit far fetched for some, but it is certainly possible.  It should be seen as especially possible when we consider the blatant 9-11 false flag op we got from the NWO agents, not to mention the catastrophic bloodletting in the bogus wars on terrorism which followed -- courtesy of the same NWO agents.

    A piece of lead for the POTUS Elect or short of that an overwhelming pressure placed on some Electors would be child's play for today's sociopath and psychopath NWO agents.  A flip of the election could also be more easily rationalized (and convincing to at least some of the public)  in our current situation where the pantsuit lady (until 1993, women were not permitted to wear pantsuits or pants of any kind on the United States Senate floor) supposedly got more popular votes than Mr. Trump.

    The linked article below describes a seemingly very plausible election theft via the flipping of some Electors.  If the Electors aren't flipped in our current situation I don't think it will be because it wasn't within the power of the NWO agents to have the flip carried out if God permitted them to do so.

    N.B. The good news, if we can call it that, is that apparently the powers that be -- so far at least -- have seemed to have expressed a willingness to accept the results of the election and let Trump go forward.  Certainly not all would agree with that view though.  Time will tell!
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    ELECTORAL THEFT
    Wake Me When It’s Over
    By Christopher Manion

    The election will be held on November 8.

    That doesn’t mean that the election will be over on November 8.

    In the Constitution, we read that the president is to be elected by the “Electoral College,” with state electoral delegations meeting in their various capitals to cast their ballots and forward them to the president of the United States Senate.

    Those electors, and not the voters of the various states, will elect the next president.

    Unless they don’t.

    Electors are apportioned to reflect the number of Senators and Representatives of each state. That number totals 535.  Add three for the District of Columbia, and you have 538, which is why the winner of the election must have 270 electoral votes to be declared the winner.

    Now when do the electors vote? The meeting of the electors takes place on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December after the presidential election., which this year falls on December 19th. Let’s focus on those electors.

    If Trump wins, by no matter how great or small margin, we cannot expect what he calls the “Corporate Media” and the Obama-Clinton Machine suddenly to capitulate, admit defeat, promise to behave from now on, and dutifully report the steps taken by the Trump transition team in anticipation of Inauguration Day.

    No. To coin a phrase, they will try to “Rig the Election.”

    These critters thrive on chaos, and they will foment more of it. And why not? If Trump wins, November 9 will find ClintonWorld reeling at the edge of the abyss, badly losing in the last battle of an apocalyptic war. They will fight back fiercely and fraudulently and feel no compunction in using any and all means to find a Star Trek escape hatch as the air runs out on the flight deck.

    Their first line of attack will be the Electoral College. Like the card sharks in Central Park, they will stack the deck, create a new narrative, and begin a drumbeat – both public and private – to turn Trump’s electors.

    Let’s say Trump wins with 279 electoral votes. For Hillary’s “sh*t agitators,” that means 279 juicy targets.

    Over the years, most electoral slates comprise dependable backers of their party – which is the problem that the media will immediately create, and then exploit.

    Now let’s suppose, that, on the day after the election, all those electors firmly intend to cast their vote for Donald Trump.

    That doesn’t mean that they will.

    After all, many of those hard and party activists constitute the very establishment that Trump ran against in the primaries as well as the general election. Well, they might be persuaded to have second thoughts.

    The identity of electors is public knowledge.

    The Clinton Sh*t Kickers can take a variety of approaches to persuade electors in the various Trump states to come to their senses, reconsider, and either vote for Hillary (on the basis of new, “shocking” revelations regarding Trump), or throw their vote away and throw the election into the House of Representatives, safely run by Paul Ryan or Nancy Pelosi.

    In those forty days before December 19, an avalanche of “public” (read: Establishment) pressure will focus on a small number of people who will be totally unprepared and unprotected.

    But even that campaign might not work. So what other avenues of persuasion are available?

    Enter Obama.

    In this enterprise, the National Narcissist will not stand idly by. He has the key to that escape hatch. It’s called the NSA.

    Don’t think for a moment that the man who corrupted the “incorruptible” FBI cannot corrupt the NSA, which is full of criminal hackers recruited by clandestine overlords who routinely and secretly break the law simply because they can.

    Quickly, the digital dossiers of those 279 Trump electors will be on the desk of Michelle Obama’s library in her private White House quarters, the same desk on which over 100 FBI files of those on Hillary’s Enemies List mysteriously turned up some 20 years ago.

    279 electors. “All we need is ten,” David Axelrod might observe: he might even say so in public, sending a simple message to those electors: “is there anything in your past that you might want to keep private? We have it all, you know.”

    Ah – but let us further suppose that the GOP has fielded 279 resilient and stalwart citizens who refuse to be blackmailed, who have nothing to hide.

    Okay, enough of that.

    On reflection, the Sh*t-Kickers might not even need the actual NSA material. All they need is for the electors to fear that they might have it.

    “Want to have a happy, peaceful life,” they will ask.

    “Want to have a life at all?”

    All they need is ten.

    In the disputed election of 1876, in which Republican Rutherford Hayes defeated New York Governor Samuel Tilden by one electoral vote, one James Madison Wells, who was responsible for returning Louisiana’s Republican electoral votes to the Congress, tried to sell them for $1,000,000 to Congressman Abram Hewitt, Chairman of the Democratic party, and to Tilden.

    A tidy sum in those days. But Hewitt and Tilden refused.

    Would Hillary? Or Saudi Arabia? Or George Soros?

    The dream didn’t die in 1876. In the disputed election of 2000, Al Gore campaign operative Bob Beckel admitted on Fox News that “I’m trying to kidnap electors. Whatever it takes.”

    No one disputed Beckel’s assertion when he said, “The Constitution gives me the right to send a piece of mail to an elector.”

    “Whatever it takes.”

    Fast forward 16 years – past the Patriot Act, past Eric Snowden, past Wikileaks – and consider David Axelrod sending a more current version of such a letter to a selection of Donald Trump’s electors.

    And what if that letter merely read, “We know where you live”

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    « Reply #3 on: November 09, 2016, 09:37:36 PM »
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  • I could see that happening if it was a tie -- 269 to 269.  But in this case it is going to be 306/310 to 232/228.  So at least 37 electors would have to flip.  That ain't happening.  It would not be tolerated.  Even the neo-cons can see the advantage of having the Republicans run the table and take the Oval Office, the Senate and the House.  The best strategy for the elites now is to do everything they can to undermine Trump.  They don't want to do anything too controversial like flip electors.  All they need to do is tank the economy and provoke "incidents" which force Trump to react in ways that will be framed negatively by BigMedia in order to increase the negative perception that the general public already has of Trump.  A lot of people voted for Trump despite voicing negative views on him personally.  He was seen as the only candidate that could represent a protest vote.  So now Trump has his work cut out for him.  The economy is on the brink of collapse and regardless of the nice things that Russia has said about him, WW3 is still only an "accidental" shootdown away.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 09, 2016, 10:31:02 PM »
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  • Quote from: Clemens Maria
    I could see that happening if it was a tie -- 269 to 269.  But in this case it is going to be 306/310 to 232/228.  So at least 37 electors would have to flip.  That ain't happening.  It would not be tolerated.  Even the neo-cons can see the advantage of having the Republicans run the table and take the Oval Office, the Senate and the House.  The best strategy for the elites now is to do everything they can to undermine Trump.  They don't want to do anything too controversial like flip electors.  All they need to do is tank the economy and provoke "incidents" which force Trump to react in ways that will be framed negatively by BigMedia in order to increase the negative perception that the general public already has of Trump.  A lot of people voted for Trump despite voicing negative views on him personally.  He was seen as the only candidate that could represent a protest vote.  So now Trump has his work cut out for him.  The economy is on the brink of collapse and regardless of the nice things that Russia has said about him, WW3 is still only an "accidental" shootdown away.



    Very good points written by you Clemens Maria.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 10, 2016, 11:03:24 AM »
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    I could see that [flip of the election by the Electors] happening if it was a tie -- 269 to 269. But in this case it is going to be 306/310 to 232/228. So at least 37 electors would have to flip. That ain't happening. It would not be tolerated. Even the neo-cons can see the advantage of having the Republicans run the table and take the Oval Office, the Senate and the House. The best strategy for the elites now is to do everything they can to undermine Trump. They don't want to do anything too controversial like flip electors. All they need to do is tank the economy and provoke "incidents" which force Trump to react in ways that will be framed negatively by BigMedia in order to increase the negative perception that the general public already has of Trump.


    On the surface of it what you say Clemens Maria certainly sounds so reasonable and believable and I actually hope you are right!  Nevertheless, I think we should be mentally prepared to expect what may seem to be the very unexpected.  A zillion H backers give the appearance of not having been very mentally prepared to expect what for them and even for some T supporters was certainly the unexpected.

    What I am saying here is that we as patriotic Americans and perhaps especially as traditional Catholics should not allow ourselves to be caught off guard by any tendency to feel too complacent in ruling out a particular narrative.

    As for what Americans would put up with if incredible pressure (including very real death threats, veiled or unveiled, to include not only Electors, but their family members as well) were to cause the theft of the election, let us not fool ourselves.  Americans have put up with the endless slaughter of literally millions of innocent civilians overseas for many years in futile lying bogus wars on terrorism, the daily slaughter of some 3,000 plus babies a day here in our own country, the homosexual and pornographic flow into and thorough permeation of our society/culture, loss of liberties with the Patriot Act, and various false flags including 9-11.   Do you want me to go on?

    As I said I actually hope you are right, but for goodness sakes let's not go into any sort of denial mode as to what could happen.  BTW, if you were an Elector for T, I wonder whether you would flip if you knew that if you didn't it would be lights out for you, but very possibly for your whole family.  You, yourself, might feel righteous enough to say, "Put my lights out, make my day," but can we be so certain that the Electors if faced with that choice would be so unswerving.

    Just be ready to expect the unexpected in this very unpredictable NWO world that we are living in.  That's all I'm trying to say!

    Here's another linked article on the subject: No Matter What Happens -- Election Theft

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    « Reply #6 on: November 12, 2016, 01:26:27 AM »
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  • It looks like one big line of attack has already opened to put pressure on the Electors to throw ---uh, er a rather "correct" the election.   Change.org, an apparent front for the Oligarchy is already claiming well over 3 million signatures petioning to do just that!   If these are all valid signatures it bespeaks of quite a tremendous organization to have accomplished this so quickly.

    Remember, this is just one public line of attack.  We can only imagine what may be going on behind the scenes at the behest of some very nasty puppet masters, the same puppet masters who have let loose a lot of violent pre-election and post election protesters.  Here is the link to the site: PETITION TO ELECTORS

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    « Reply #7 on: November 12, 2016, 05:49:49 AM »
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  • Quote from: klasG4e
    It looks like one big line of attack has already opened to put pressure on the Electors to throw ---uh, er a rather "correct" the election.   Change.org, an apparent front for the Oligarchy is already claiming well over 3 million signatures petioning to do just that!   If these are all valid signatures it bespeaks of quite a tremendous organization to have accomplished this so quickly.


    Once they gather all the signatures needed, what's to stop someone from simply starting a petition against that petition?

    Madness.
    For a small gain they travel far; for eternal life many will scarcely lift a foot from the ground. - Thomas A Kempis


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    « Reply #8 on: November 12, 2016, 10:09:26 PM »
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  • The latest Electoral vote count for Trump is 301, to hard to beat and overturn.

    The following link will take you to Project Veritas election 2016 rigging
    videos:

    Cell phone videos of Democratic operatives plans to rigged election
    and disrupt Trump rallies.

    STRONG LANGUAGE, VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED

    Liberals are known for their gutter language.

    http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/

    Also from the Keiser report why Hillary Lost the Election, from RT:

    https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/366646-episode-max-keiser-992/

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    « Reply #9 on: November 16, 2016, 10:20:58 AM »
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  • I should probably add this here.  I just saw it on a different thread:
    https://thehornnews.com/revealed-hillary-camps-plot-overthrow-election/

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    « Reply #10 on: November 17, 2016, 06:21:18 PM »
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  • Another excellent article to help us wrap our heads around the distinct possibility of a super bomb shell on December 19th: http://starvingthemonkeys.com/2016/11/12/the-final-veil-hs-falling/


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    « Reply #11 on: November 18, 2016, 06:39:24 PM »
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  • Whatever shenanigans occur, no man can change the mathematics of fractional reserve banking. This will be a wild ride.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 18, 2016, 09:01:20 PM »
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  • Interesting how Mike Pompeo selected for the CIA slot turns out to have been at the very top, as in THE very top of his graduating class at West Point in 1986.  He's got a strong intel background, yea he's a smart guy alright -- smart enough to keep advancing his career (and life?!) by being just one more cog in the cover up of 9-11.  I suggested to Christopher Bollyn that he might like to drop Pompeo a hint about 9-11 at Pompei's website at http://pompeo.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=259821

    Pompei's #1 position in his West Point class is seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Military_Academy_top-ranking_graduates  Yup, being a super 100% American patriot in today's world of lies means keep the big 9-11 nineteen Arab hijackers wopper going.

     

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