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JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
« on: September 12, 2023, 09:40:58 AM »
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  • Secret Service Agent Who Was Feet from JFK During Assassination Breaks Silence, Says Official Story Isn't Right (msn.com)

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    A former Secret Service agent on then-first lady Jackie Kennedy's security detail in Dallas in November 1963 -- when President John F. Kennedy was αssαssιnαtҽd -- has come forward with new information that may place the findings of the Warren Commission in doubt. Paul Landis -- who was standing on the running board of the car immediately behind the first couple on that fateful Nov. 22 -- said he was the one who found the so-called "pristine" or "magic" bullet and placed it on President Kennedy's stretcher at Parkland Memorial Hospital. The [color=var(--accent-foreground-rest)]implications[/color] of that revelation may be significant and cast doubt on the theory that assassing Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman in the killing. [/i]

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    Re: JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
    « Reply #1 on: September 12, 2023, 11:06:16 AM »
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  • Everyone wants to blame someone other than the Communists. The Kennedys tried to αssαssιnαtҽ Fidel Castro and their plans went awry, with it literally blowing up in JFK's face. The Democrats today still deny the threat of Communism (even that it was ever a threat) and now the alternative Right is joining them in placing the blame for everything on America, the ultimate evil in the form of the Anglo-Globohomo West. Meanwhile the East continues to steal from the West, build weapons and prepare armies for what was planned over a century ago while many on the Right aid in their own destruction by helping them.


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    Re: JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
    « Reply #2 on: September 12, 2023, 02:51:11 PM »
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  • Everyone wants to blame someone other than the Communists.

    I think you're hung up on Communists.  Ultimately there's a Jew behind most evils in the world, as Cardinal Merry del Val once famously said, and I'm sure you know that the Jews were/are also behind Communist.  They tried to frame Oswald as a Communist agent who was working with Castro, as a fαℓѕє fℓαg, but Oswald was actually a CIA asset who ended up becoming a patsy.  Kennedy assassination was not primarily a Communist operation, but had complicity from Lyndon Johnson, very possibly Jackie Kennedy (suspected CIA asset), the likes of George HW Bush, and of course Jack Rubenstein.  This was an inside job and not some international Commie hit.  Jews were very upset with Kennedy regarding the Dimona situation as well as his intent to get rid of the Fed (both Jєωιѕн operations).

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    Re: JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
    « Reply #3 on: September 12, 2023, 04:19:06 PM »
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  • I think you're hung up on Communists.  Ultimately there's a Jew behind most evils in the world, as Cardinal Merry del Val once famously said, and I'm sure you know that the Jews were/are also behind Communist.

    Communism is Judaism. The one "hung up" on something here is you. You blame the CIA for everything when we have mountains of evidence for Soviet involvement and that the CIA was outdone in espionage and subversion by the KGB from the earliest points of contact. There is no need to invoke a nebulous "the Jews" as an enemy, when we can know the enemy and trace his movements through history. What we can know is that Jєωιѕн Revolutionary action takes place primarily in the form of Communism, which has coopted and redirected other Revolutionary movements for its purposes.

    They tried to frame Oswald as a Communist agent who was working with Castro, as a fαℓѕє fℓαg, but Oswald was actually a CIA asset who ended up becoming a patsy.  Kennedy assassination was not primarily a Communist operation, but had complicity from Lyndon Johnson, very possibly Jackie Kennedy (suspected CIA asset), the likes of George HW Bush, and of course Jack Rubenstein.  This was an inside job and not some international Commie hit.  Jews were very upset with Kennedy regarding the Dimona situation as well as his intent to get rid of the Fed (both Jєωιѕн operations).

    Yes, you have repeated some of the conspiracy theories that throw a smokescreen over the true perpetrators. Action shot of Ladislaus at work:


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    Re: JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
    « Reply #4 on: September 12, 2023, 06:31:34 PM »
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  • What I am convinced of is that the "official story" isn't true.  I have no reason, however, to believe this fellow any more than I have to believe the "official story".  


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    Re: JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
    « Reply #5 on: September 12, 2023, 10:41:31 PM »
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  • I think you're hung up on Communists.  Ultimately there's a Jєω behind most evils in the world, as Cardinal Merry del Val once famously said, and I'm sure you know that the Jєωs were/are also behind Communist.  They tried to frame Oswald as a Communist agent who was working with Castro, as a fαℓѕє fℓαg, but Oswald was actually a CIA asset who ended up becoming a patsy.  Kennedy assassination was not primarily a Communist operation, but had complicity from Lyndon Johnson, very possibly Jackie Kennedy (suspected CIA asset), the likes of George HW Bush, and of course Jack Rubenstein.  This was an inside job and not some international Commie hit.  Jєωs were very upset with Kennedy regarding the Dimona situation as well as his intent to get rid of the Fed (both Jєωιѕн operations).
    'zackly.

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    Re: JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
    « Reply #6 on: September 13, 2023, 12:10:18 AM »
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  • You blame the CIA for everything when we have mountains of evidence for Soviet involvement and that the CIA was outdone in espionage and subversion by the KGB from the earliest points of contact.

    And you act as though there's a meaningful difference between the CIA and the KGB.  Both are run by Jews.  There was no need for the KGB Jews to come over to the US when the CIA Jews could handle the situation here themselves.  There's no evidence whatsoever that there was any Communist involvement in the Kennedy assassination, and the attempt to link CIA asset Oswald (proven) to Castro and the Communists was just cover and disinformation.  Oswald, however, apparently didn't realize that he had been set up as the patsy, which is why Jack Rubenstein had to eliminate him, before he talked.

    Alex Jones' "9/11 was an inside job" mantra is actually a disinfo weapon, an attempt to program his gatekeeping agenda.

    No, "9/11 was a Jєωιѕн job", "inside" only to the extent that the PNAC neo-con Jєωιѕн moles had taken over the US security and intelligence apparatus.

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    Re: JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
    « Reply #7 on: September 13, 2023, 07:06:12 AM »
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  • 'zackly.

    There is no 'zackly about it. The reasons for why the CIA supposedly did it as an American job don't add up. Much of what is passed around about it fall under the "myths and legends"-type storytelling found in the Traditional Catholic and conspiracy theorist sphere. If you read the Warren Commission, FOIA releases and other testimony, the Soviet involvement is not as easy to dismiss than if your Bible is the Protocols of Zion. Meg was another one who wrote that she didn't need history, but the Protocols were enough for her. This kind of thinking guarantees that you will follow someone's narrative and not real history.


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    Re: JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
    « Reply #8 on: September 13, 2023, 07:13:14 AM »
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  • And you act as though there's a meaningful difference between the CIA and the KGB.  Both are run by Jews.  There was no need for the KGB Jews to come over to the US when the CIA Jews could handle the situation here themselves.  There's no evidence whatsoever that there was any Communist involvement in the Kennedy assassination, and the attempt to link CIA asset Oswald (proven) to Castro and the Communists was just cover and disinformation.  Oswald, however, apparently didn't realize that he had been set up as the patsy, which is why Jack Rubenstein had to eliminate him, before he talked.

    Alex Jones' "9/11 was an inside job" mantra is actually a disinfo weapon, an attempt to program his gatekeeping agenda.

    No, "9/11 was a Jєωιѕн job", "inside" only to the extent that the PNAC neo-con Jєωιѕн moles had taken over the US security and intelligence apparatus.

    Yes, there was and is a real difference between the CIA and KGB. The KGB was the premier spy agency where subversion was concerned, and different CIA agents have admitted the fact. The training and background of the agents are completely different, and there can be good CIA agents that do wish the best for America and others, even though it may be for the wrong reasons (democracy). I was never a member, but I have worked with people in the CIA and I suspect that is more than you can say for yourself.

    Your belief that "there was no need for the KGB Jews to come over" is just that, because we have real history that shows it did happen. Like Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, it is still necessary for agents of influence to receive the orders and turn organizations for the purposes of the mother organization, which in this case would be KGB and the Soviet Union. Your belief that there is no evidence stems from your conspiracy theorism, which is apparent when you write in the same sentence that the evidence is only "cover and disinformation." Your strong beliefs don't mean that evidence and arguments against beliefs of yours including Flat Earth, Feeneyism, sedevacantism, etc., don't exist.

    Who are neocons? I think we can know the answer (Communists and Communist assets). Not every neocon is a Jew. If it helps you, think back to Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and how the lodges were coordinated from above, but not everyone was Jєωιѕн.

    tl;dr you are writing the typical alt-media conspiracy theories that support Russia. No big surprise

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    Re: JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
    « Reply #9 on: November 21, 2023, 05:51:20 PM »
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  • Secret Service Agent Who Was Feet from JFK During Assassination Breaks Silence, Says Official Story Isn't Right (msn.com)

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    A former Secret Service agent on then-first lady Jackie Kennedy's security detail in Dallas in November 1963 -- when President John F. Kennedy was αssαssιnαtҽd -- has come forward with new information that may place the findings of the Warren Commission in doubt. Paul Landis -- who was standing on the running board of the car immediately behind the first couple on that fateful Nov. 22 -- said he was the one who found the so-called "pristine" or "magic" bullet and placed it on President Kennedy's stretcher at Parkland Memorial Hospital. The [color=var(--accent-foreground-rest)]implications[/color] of that revelation may be significant and cast doubt on the theory that assassing Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman in the killing. [/i]

    JFK Assassination Doctors Break Silence, Dispute Key Government Claim

    Multiple doctors who were in the emergency room with President John F. Kennedy raised doubts about official narratives.


    President John F. Kennedy, First Lady Jaqueline Kennedy, and Texas Gov. John Connally ride in a limousine moments before Kennedy was αssαssιnαtҽd, in Dallas, Texas, on Nov. 22, 1963. (Walt Cisco/Dallas Morning News/Handout via Reuters)

    Several doctors who were in the emergency room when former President John F. Kennedy was αssαssιnαtҽd in 1963 raised serious doubts about the official narrative that says a lone gunman was responsible, according to a new docuмentary featuring interviews conducted in 2013.
    The federal Warren Commission established that two shots fired by lone gunman Lee Harvey Oswald, who was located in the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, struck President Kennedy from behind as he was traveling in a motorcade in Dallas. One of the bullets entered his upper back and exited near his larynx, while the second bullet entered the right side of his head and exited via his forehead.
    The former president was breathing when he entered Parkland Hospital before he was pronounced dead about a half an hour later. However, what seven doctors said in the recent footage disputes the commission's claims about the event.

    Jacquelynn Lueth, executive producer of "JFK: What the Doctors Saw," interviewed the seven Parkland doctors for the docuмentary. She wrote for CBS News last week that the doctors' "recollections were precise and clear, as if the intervening decades had melted away."
    "Each of them reacted strongly when the autopsy pictures were projected on a screen," Ms. Lueth wrote. "They didn't agree on everything, but it became obvious that the way the president looked at Parkland did not match the autopsy photos taken at Bethesda even before the official autopsy began."
    She added that the Parkland doctors "had no agenda other than trying to save the president's life" but stipulated that those who witnessed the wound to the president's neck "believed it was an entrance wound," which would dispute the Warren Commission's findings. "Several of them saw a gaping hole in the back of JFK's head," she said.

    Warning to Keep Silent
    In one of the clips from the docuмentary, several of the doctors recalled what was said by Dr. Malcolm Perry, the surgeon who attended to President Kennedy. He also attended to Mr. Oswald.

    “So, at the press conference, Dr. Perry, in describing the [throat] wound here, said that he thought it looked like an entrance wound,” said Dr. Robert McClelland in the video taken from the docuмentary, released this month.
    “So, we were thinking there were two wounds. Had to be an entrance wound and an exit wound. That was the only way we could put it together. And so, I thought it was an entrance wound,” said Dr. Ronald Jones, another Parkland doctor.
    Later, Dr. McClelland recalled that he noticed something unusual after the press conference with Dr. Perry about the JFK assassination.

    “When [Dr. Perry] left the room, someone came up to him who Dr. Perry thought maybe was a Secret Service man, and he told Dr. Perry, ‘You must never, ever say that was an entrance wound again if you know what’s good for you,’” he said.
    Dr. McClelland, who died aged 89 in 2019, said that he believed that "in all probability there was a conspiracy, i.e. there was more than one shooter," according to footage of the docuмentary released by the Daily Mail.

    And Dr. Jones said that "in retrospect," if Mr. Oswald "was in the sixth floor depository, how could he have been shot from the front then? And so was there more than one assailant?"
    Another doctor, Joe Goldstrich, who was a medical student at the time of the assassination, asked: "How could a gunshot from the rear peel the scalp from the front back?
    Other than the Warren Commission, established by former President Lyndon B. Johnson, the CIA also has long maintained that Mr. Oswald, who was shot and killed just days later, was the sole perpetrator.

    Other Claims
    The revelations come as a former U.S. Secret Service agent went public for the first time in 60 years and appeared to refute the "magic bullet" theory.
    Paul Landis, an 88-year-old former agent, was only a few feet away from President Kennedy when he was shot and killed. He had been assigned to protect Jackie Kennedy, the former first lady.
    In an interview with The New York Times, published on Sept. 9, Mr. Landis recalled hearing multiple gunshots at Dealy Plaza in Dallas as he went behind President Kennedy’s limousine, seeing the president moving forward after being shot in the head. After the assassination, Mr. Landis recalled picking up what he called a near-perfect-condition bullet from the back seat of President Kennedy’s limousine, near where the president had been sitting.
    The former agent then transported the bullet to the hospital where President Kennedy was taken and put on a stretcher to be examined. He said he believed someone might pocket the bullet—which he did not describe in detail—as a keepsake.

    Mr. Landis suggested that the reason investigators suspected that a “magic bullet” struck the former president is because the bullet that Mr. Landis discovered was later found on a stretcher belonging to President Kennedy. It wasn’t until the New York Times interview that Mr. Landis confirmed that it was he who found the bullet and placed it there.
    It wasn’t until 2014 that he realized that the location of the bullet’s recovery that was cited by him was different than what was mentioned in the Warren Commission, he told the outlet. He then checked with several U.S. officials but was met with skepticism.
    That same year, a former Secret Service colleague, Clint Hill, warned Mr. Landis that he shouldn't speak out about what he saw on that day. If he did, there might be "many ramifications" for Mr. Landis, he recalled Mr. Hill as saying.


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    If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?

    ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

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    Re: JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
    « Reply #10 on: November 21, 2023, 09:10:54 PM »
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  • I have read somethings about this case, but I have not really understood the big picture.

    It seems clear to me that the official story is a lie, but why? I mean, why was he killed? What was so unacceptable about him to those people?


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    Re: JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
    « Reply #11 on: November 21, 2023, 10:01:05 PM »
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  • I have read somethings about this case, but I have not really understood the big picture.

    It seems clear to me that the official story is a lie, but why? I mean, why was he killed? What was so unacceptable about him to those people?
    There are a few theories, but, in my opinion, trying to deny ((the friends of humanity)) nuclear weapons seems the most likely cause, or at least the last straw.

    President Kennedy gave Israel a strong warning about its nuclear reactor in 1963

    Kennedy, who was otherwise close to Israel, was furious with its ostensible nuclear weapons program.
    By RON KAMPEAS/JTA MAY 8, 2019 03:20
    US President John Kennedy and his wife in Dallas 150 (photo credit: REUTERS) title=US President John Kennedy and his wife in Dallas 150
    US President John Kennedy and his wife in Dallas 150 (photo credit: REUTERS)


    WASHINGTON (JTA) — Declassified docuмents show President John Kennedy warned Israeli Prime Minister Levi Eshkol in 1963 that U.S. support for the young country would be “seriously jeopardized” if Israel did not allow the United States periodic inspections of Israel’s nuclear reactor.

    A telegram from Kennedy dated July 4, 1963, congratulates Eshkol on assuming the prime ministership after David Ben-Gurion’s resignation and recounts talks between Kennedy and Ben-Gurion about inspections at the reactor in Dimona.

    “As I wrote Mr. Ben-Gurion, this government’s commitment to and support of Israel could be seriously jeopardized if it should be thought that we were unable to obtain reliable information on a subject as vital to peace as Israel’s effort in the nuclear field,” the telegram said.

    The telegram was declassified in the 1990s but was not widely available until last week when the National Security Archives, a project affiliated with George Washington University, posted it on its website.

    Kennedy, who was otherwise close to Israel, was furious with its ostensible nuclear weapons program, fearing that the Soviet Union could use it as leverage to maintain its influence in the Middle East.

    Eshkol, caught off guard by the tone of the telegram, took seven weeks to assent, and the twice-yearly inspections continued until 1969, when President Richard Nixon ended them.

    Also revealed in the trove of docuмents the National Security Archives posted is the origin of Israel’s oft-repeated credo that it would not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons — a deliberately ambiguous statement that left Israel room to develop the weapons but not arm them.

    Shimon Peres, then the deputy defense minister — he would later lead the country as prime minister for two stints and then become president — improvised the statement when he was surprised by Kennedy during a meeting that Peres had scheduled with Kennedy’s adviser, Myer Feldman, who also functioned as the administration’s liaison to Israel and the U.S. Jєωιѕн community. Unbeknownst to Peres, Kennedy and Feldman had planned the “surprise” encounter.

    According to a Hebrew-language Foreign Ministry of Israel account of the April 2, 1963, meeting, Kennedy asked Peres into the Oval Office for 30 minutes and questioned him on Israel’s nuclear capacity.

    “You know that we follow very closely the discovery of any nuclear development in the region,” Kennedy said. “This could create a very dangerous situation. For this reason, we monitor your nuclear effort. What could you tell me about this?”

    Peres improvised, “I can tell you most clearly that we will not introduce nuclear weapons to the region, and certainly we will not be the first.”

    https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/President-Kennedy-gave-Israel-a-strong-warning-about-its-nuclear-reactor-in-1963-589107
     
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    ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

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    Re: JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
    « Reply #12 on: November 22, 2023, 10:02:44 PM »
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  • There are a few theories, but, in my opinion, trying to deny ((the friends of humanity)) nuclear weapons seems the most likely cause, or at least the last straw.

    President Kennedy gave Israel a strong warning about its nuclear reactor in 1963

    ...

    This is interesting.

    The Jews have always had free access to American's money, American soldiers, and whatever else they wanted to do the dirty job for them. It seems unlikely that they wouldn't have access to American "nukes".

    The deeper issue here seems to be that they realized that they would not have unconditional support from President Kenendy, and that is unacceptable to them.

     I am not an expert, but I believe that there was no American President, at least since 1948, probably long before this, who made the Jews unhappy.

    They probably realized that Kennedy would not say yes to their every whim, and decided to put him out of the picture.

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    Re: JFK Assassination: Former Secret Service Agent Talks
    « Reply #13 on: November 22, 2023, 10:38:10 PM »
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  • I mean, why was he killed? What was so unacceptable about him to those people?

    1. He printed money and threatened to audit the Fed.
    2. He wouldn't give Israel access to nukes.
    3. His brother Bobby was hunting down both LBJ and Connally for Federal crimes and JFK wouldn't interfere in it.
    4. JFK was Catholic and the jews plotted to murder him as a тαℓмυdic ritual (they murdered his brother and his son too).
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi