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Offline Mark 79

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Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
« on: November 02, 2023, 09:17:49 PM »
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    • November 2, 1963 coup authorized by Pres. Kennedy against Roman Catholic Pres. Ngo Dinh Diem of South Viet Nam. Diem was the brother of Archbishop Ngo Dinh Thuc of Hue'. Diem and another brother were seized and brutally murdered by the forces of the traitorous Buddhist generals when leaving church after All Souls Day Mass. Yet another brother had been murdered by the Communists in the 1950s.
      Attorney General Robert Kennedy opposed it along with General Taylor. The vehemently anti-Catholic Ambassador to South Viet Nam, Henry Cabot Lodge, was its chief proponent accompanied by the Jew run State Deptartment.
      Twenty days later Israel assisted by US Deep State murdered Kennedy over his attempts to shut down the illegal Israeli nuclear weapons program at Dimona.. Heaven lifted any protection previous granted to Kennedy as a result to his acquiescense to the murder of Diem.
      Audiotape of Kennedy'sdictation of a report on the coup two days afterwards. His very young son, John Jr., comes into the room during taping.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A503eoKwLhY&pp=ygURS2VubmVkeSBkaWVtIGNvdXA%3D
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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #1 on: November 04, 2023, 01:03:53 PM »
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    • Great find!

    So JFK admits he made a mistake.

    In allowing Diem to be αssαssιnαtҽd, I doubt his understood his responsibility in the battle, between Babylon (Buddhism & тαℓмυdic Communism and Jerusalem (Catholicism).



    Here's a link on this complex historical topic:

    Evidence on the Diem Coup in South Vietnam, November 1963

    Excerpt:

    DISCUSSION

    Vietnam perplexed American leaders from Franklin D. Roosevelt on. By the time John F. Kennedy was president, the situation seemed hopeful for a moment—long enough for JFK to think of Vietnam as a sort of laboratory where he could try out tactics and techniques. By this juncture, 1963, that optimism had evaporated and Kennedy felt that obstructionists in Saigon were losing ground against a communist insurgency. When, that May, Ngo Dinh Diem’s government got into a political confrontation with Vietnamese Buddhists, American frustration increased. So did South Vietnamese. A Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operative was approached during the time of U.S. 4th of July festivities by South Vietnamese military officers who wanted U.S. support for a coup d’etat that might overthrow Diem (2003 E-book, docuмent 1).

    This present E-book opens (Docuмent 1) with the record of a July 19, 1963, encounter between CIA Station Chief John Richardson and Diem’s brother, Ngo Dinh Nhu, who ran many of South Vietnam’s special services and was increasingly seen as the power behind the presidency. This shows that Nhu, even when “calm,” as Richardson observes, obsessed with Buddhists spreading propaganda and hiding communist agents among their monks at some of the most important pagodas. Nhu had begun weekly meetings with the generals of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN) where he himself had introduced the subject of a coup—as he told the CIA, it was a “psychoanalytic” technique which might induce the ARVN officers to reveal their intentions.

    Nhu continued his plotting, which eventually led to a plan to launch government raids against the most important Buddhist pagodas in Saigon and Hue (Docuмent 5).


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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #2 on: November 04, 2023, 02:01:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on November 04, 2023, 01:03:53 PM
    In allowing Diem to be αssαssιnαtҽd, I doubt his understood his responsibility in the battle, between Babylon (Buddhism & тαℓмυdic Communism and Jerusalem (Catholicism).

    Oh, he did more than allow it.  He authorized it.  Ironic that he would subsequently be αssαssιnαtҽd by ultimately the same people.  In other words, the Jews behind the Communist movement that murdered Diem also ended up murdering JFK.  Live by the sword, die by the sword.
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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #3 on: November 04, 2023, 02:38:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 04, 2023, 02:01:51 PM
    Oh, he did more than allow it.  He authorized it.  Ironic that he would subsequently be αssαssιnαtҽd by ultimately the same people.  In other words, the Jєωs behind the Communist movement that murdered Diem also ended up murdering JFK.  Live by the sword, die by the sword.

    And the Divine irony that both Catholic leaders received the Sacraments shortly before their deaths:

    Diem was praying his "Thanksgiving" after assisting at Holy Mass when attacked.
    JFK was inspired to seek out the Sacrament of Penance hours before he was shot.
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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #4 on: November 04, 2023, 03:10:06 PM »
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    • I don't know why requiem masses are not still being said for President Kennedy.
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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #5 on: November 04, 2023, 04:27:52 PM »
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    • This year is the 60th anniversary of the assassination of JFK.
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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #6 on: November 04, 2023, 05:00:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on November 04, 2023, 02:38:48 PM
    And the Divine irony that both Catholic leaders received the Sacraments shortly before their deaths:

    Diem was praying his "Thanksgiving" after assisting at Holy Mass when attacked.
    JFK was inspired to seek out the Sacrament of Penance hours before he was shot.

    Yeah, but it's unfortunate that JFK kindof sullied the notion of "first Catholic president" through serial adultery, and then the assassination of Diem.  And then you had the Kennedy clan turn into pro-abortionists, not to mention Kennedy's involvement in having Father Feeney persecuted and ultimately excommunicated.
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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #7 on: November 04, 2023, 05:55:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 04, 2023, 05:00:18 PM
    Yeah, but it's unfortunate that JFK kindof sullied the notion of "first Catholic president" through serial adultery, and then the assassination of Diem.  And then you had the Kennedy clan turn into pro-abortionists, not to mention Kennedy's involvement in having Father Feeney persecuted and ultimately excommunicated.

    What to say... :facepalm: 

    But come, in sorrow, let us sing two hours of Kyrie Eleison.

    Kyrie Eleison

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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #8 on: November 04, 2023, 06:59:22 PM »
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    • correction: CINO president kills Catholic president (whose brother was a traditional Catholic bishop).

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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #9 on: November 04, 2023, 09:43:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Geremia on November 04, 2023, 06:59:22 PM
    correction: CINO president kills Catholic president (whose brother was a traditional Catholic bishop).

    Not just killed, but brutally murdered, and not just the Catholic president but several members of his family.  Kennedy's own assassination could very well have been God's punishment for this heinous act.  I hope he saved his soul, but indeed he was a CINO, as have been most of the Kennedy clan.  During JFK's campaign for President, he was very big on pushing separation of Church and state, claiming that this was a Catholic principle, because many Prots were afraid he'd turn the country Catholic.  Since then we've had several notorious pro-abortion Kennedies.
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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #10 on: November 05, 2023, 03:11:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 04, 2023, 09:43:44 PM
    he was very big on pushing separation of Church and state
    Ex-abortionist, ex-Jєω, and Catholic convert Bernard Nathanson, M.D., aptly called the election of JFK and John XXIII's convening Vatican II "the two Johns revolution" (The Abortion Papers: Inside the Abortion Mentality pp. 180-3).
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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #11 on: November 08, 2023, 06:26:26 PM »
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    • Great podcast I listened to a few days ago about Diem and his government. In my opinion, on that fateful Day of Judgement, this man will be one of the few presidents and prime ministers numbered among the just. Worth a listen:

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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #12 on: November 09, 2023, 04:57:54 PM »
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    • :popcorn:
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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #13 on: November 09, 2023, 06:09:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: StLouisIX on November 08, 2023, 06:26:26 PM
    on that fateful Day of Judgement, this man will be one of the few presidents and prime ministers numbered among the just.
    I think some Vietnamese consider him a martyr, like some French consider Louis XVI a martyr.
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    Re: Nov 2, 1963 Catholic President kills Catholic President
    « Reply #14 on: November 09, 2023, 07:24:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Geremia on November 09, 2023, 06:09:23 PM
    I think some Vietnamese consider him a martyr, like some French consider Louis XVI a martyr.
    Some non-Vietnamese consider Ngô Đình Diệm a martyr, myself included. One of the greatest stupidities of my life was in realizing that late in life.
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