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Offline Mr G

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Nobody’s trying to ‘overturn’ the election. We’re CORRECTING fraudulent results.
« on: December 11, 2020, 12:09:07 PM »
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    • Nobody's trying to 'overturn' the election. We're CORRECTING fraudulent results. (noqreport.com)

    What happens when you combine gaslighting with begging the question? You get the ludicrous framing by Democrats and mainstream media that somehow President Trump and his allies are trying to "overturn" an election that is righteously being challenged.

    The memo came down from the prince of darkness that everyone in media, Big Tech, and the Democratic Party are supposed to frame challenges to election results as attempts to “overturn” the election. This is ludicrous and disingenuous, especially when we consider the likelihood that this election was plagued by rampant voter fraud on a massive scale.

    There’s a reason they’re using that word. “Overturned” is, in its very nature, a violent and often unwanted action. A car can get “overturned” in an accident. But it’s also an important word because it insinuates the election results are already determined and the perceived winner, former Vice President Joe Biden, has his name already etched onto a plaque in the Oval Office.

    First and foremost, this is gaslighting. They know that tens of millions of Americans do not believe the election was fair or that the results are finalized, but they want us to believe that we’re the crazy ones for not denouncing thousands of sworn affidavits. They want us to believe our eyes are lying to us when we see clear voter fraud in videos that have been shown as evidence before state legislature hearings. Most importantly, they want us to believe that it’s a widely accepted fact that Joe Biden won the election fair and square and if we don’t, we’re delusional. It’s gaslighting in its purest form.

    They’re also using a logical fallacy called “begging the question.” They’re taking the conclusion of their argument, that Joe Biden won the election, and using it as evidence to try to prove their point. It’s sort of like circular reasoning, but with a slight detour around the mountains of evidence that point to their conclusion and premise both being wrong.

    In the latest episode of the NOQ Report, JD examines these topics and explains why we need to change the narrative framing from “overturn” to “correcting.” But he wasn’t all cheery about everything that’s happening. In fact, he’s not confident that the Texas lawsuit will yield the result people are expecting. It may delay the selection of electors on December 14, but it will not in and of itself sway the selection otherwise. That delay, he notes, is still extremely important and a huge win for the Trump team if it happens because it will buy time for other lawsuits that have direct evidence of voter fraud to work their way into the Supreme Court.


    He noted there’s one fatal flaw in the lawsuit, the fact that they are suing only states that didn’t go for President Trump. What they’re accusing the Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Georgia of doing are the things that were also done in other states. The difference is that the results in the four defendant states were close and went to Biden.

    Do not let the left dictate the narrative. They want us to use terms like “overturn” because it insinuates sinister intent. But our true goal is for the righteous and lawful results of the election to come to light, and that would be a Trump landslide.
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    Re: Nobody’s trying to ‘overturn’ the election. We’re CORRECTING fraudulent results.
    « Reply #1 on: December 11, 2020, 01:11:48 PM »
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    • The Left doesn't care. They don't care about morality, God, rules, or the truth.

    They are sons of Belial, or "those without yoke". For them, the end justifies the means.

    Nevermind the fact that their "end" is actually a hell on earth that even THEY wouldn't enjoy -- they're useless idiots.
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    Re: Nobody’s trying to ‘overturn’ the election. We’re CORRECTING fraudulent results.
    « Reply #2 on: December 11, 2020, 01:46:33 PM »
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    • And Bergoglio is one of them.  That is the greatest tragedy of all. He is a complete leftist sellout. The false prophet. 
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    Re: Nobody’s trying to ‘overturn’ the election. We’re CORRECTING fraudulent results.
    « Reply #3 on: December 11, 2020, 02:45:07 PM »
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    • If results are not overturned, soon we'll have a fake papa and a fake prez.
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Nobody’s trying to ‘overturn’ the election. We’re CORRECTING fraudulent results.
    « Reply #4 on: December 11, 2020, 04:55:45 PM »
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    • Thank you for using the term "begging the question" (petitio principii) properly (or rather, passing on an article in which it is used properly).

    In the media and elsewhere, supposedly educated people say "begging the question" when what they mean to say is "the question that begs to be asked" or "the question that begs to be answered".  They're just educated enough, or well-read enough, to have encountered the phrase, but not educated enough in logic and rhetoric to know what it actually means.  They like the way it sounds, and they use it to mean what they think it means.
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    Re: Nobody’s trying to ‘overturn’ the election. We’re CORRECTING fraudulent results.
    « Reply #5 on: December 11, 2020, 05:57:01 PM »
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    • It's over.  The SCOTUS shot down the Texas lawsuit.
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    Re: Nobody’s trying to ‘overturn’ the election. We’re CORRECTING fraudulent results.
    « Reply #6 on: December 11, 2020, 06:38:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on December 11, 2020, 05:57:01 PM
    It's over.  The SCOTUS shot down the Texas lawsuit.

    What's the point of having those Trump appointed judges?
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    Re: Nobody’s trying to ‘overturn’ the election. We’re CORRECTING fraudulent results.
    « Reply #7 on: December 11, 2020, 07:39:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on December 11, 2020, 05:57:01 PM
    It's over.  The SCOTUS shot down the Texas lawsuit.
    Nothing is over! Oh yea of little Faith!

    The "supreme" court does not have the final say, GOD is in control of history, GOD is in control of this election. GOD will decide what the final outcome is here, with the election, with the democrats, with the globalists, with the commies, with corona!

    GOD! Not man and our BS courts!

    Tomorrow is the Feast of Our Lady of Guadeloupe, Our Lady of the Americas, Our Lady of the Unborn.

    There will be a massive demonstration in DC and all the capitals in the country.

    Our LADY will not abandon us. Remember never was it known that anyone who fled to her protection, help and intercession was left unaided. The Virgin will not despise our petitions! We will defeat this evil.!

    Remember when David was faced with the Goliath, what he said, no matter what this world or the "supreme" court thinks, We come in the Name of the Living God!......


    43] And the Philistine said to David: Am I a dog, that thou comest to me with a staff? And the Philistine cursed David by his gods. [44]And he said to David: Come to me, and I will give thy flesh to the birds of the air, and to the beasts of the earth. [45] And David said to the Philistine: Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the Lord of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, which thou hast defied.
    _ 1 Samuel 17:43-45
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    Re: Nobody’s trying to ‘overturn’ the election. We’re CORRECTING fraudulent results.
    « Reply #8 on: December 11, 2020, 08:07:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on December 11, 2020, 04:55:45 PM
    Thank you for using the term "begging the question" (petitio principii) properly (or rather, passing on an article in which it is used properly).

    In the media and elsewhere, supposedly educated people say "begging the question" when what they mean to say is "the question that begs to be asked" or "the question that begs to be answered".  They're just educated enough, or well-read enough, to have encountered the phrase, but not educated enough in logic and rhetoric to know what it actually means.  They like the way it sounds, and they use it to mean what they think it means.
    Amen!  I see it misused nearly every day and it drives me bananas.
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    Re: Nobody’s trying to ‘overturn’ the election. We’re CORRECTING fraudulent results.
    « Reply #9 on: December 11, 2020, 08:19:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: fmagill54 on December 11, 2020, 08:07:08 PM
    Amen!  I see it misused nearly every day and it drives me bananas.
    That is what happens when you have possibly the majority of people "going to college", when they are not "college material" and in a more sane era, wouldn't have lasted there the whole first semester of freshman year.  Now the educational business (and that's what it is, a business) has the prices inflated to stratospheric levels, get as many people in crippling debt as they can, saddle them down with useless degrees in things like Gender Studies and Underwater Synchronized Lesbian Basket Weaving (all right, maybe I exaggerate a bit...), and they still come out saying "would have came" and "would have went".

    With that lack of intellectual probity, pseudo-intellectual use of such high-falutin' terms as "begging the question", and using it incorrectly, is something just waiting to happen.  I put it right up (or down) there with the inane salutation "have a good one" --- can't even bothered to rub the brain cells together enough to put together a time-of-day-appropriate courtesy phrase!
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