Author Topic: Madrid strips Franco of honorary titles (Read 9384 times)

Belloc · « **Reply #30 on:** March 01, 2010, 07:21:51 AM »

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The fact that the Soviets wanted to spread communism is not that hard to figure out.

No. The Soviets wanted to insure the survial of their own state and were not prepared to risk it in order to spread communism.

If spreading communism got in the way of that ultimate geo-political goal than it was ditched which was one of the reasons for the falling out between the left opposition and the rest of the CP.

If you read the quote I posted above than you would know that the Soviets DID send aid to the Republicans.

I never denied that fact...I denied that they were attempting to overthrow the Spanish Republic.

The particularly odious neo-pagan who went much further than even the early Bolsheviks in attempting to abolish the family and the Freemason Mussolini aided the Franco-ists...Who were trying to and suceeded in at great human cost overthrowing the legitimate goverment of Spain.

actually, communism was a means to an end. not the end itself......either it would conquer and bring about the NWO or it would force enough people to accept the move toward the same......either way, the Luciferians gain.........the Church was the only road block left and She is now largely inoperative.....

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #31 on:** March 01, 2010, 08:55:49 PM »

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I never denied that fact...I denied that they were attempting to overthrow the Spanish Republic.

The particularly odious neo-pagan who went much further than even the early Bolsheviks in attempting to abolish the family and the Freemason Mussolini aided the Franco-ists...Who were trying to and suceeded in at great human cost overthrowing the legitimate goverment of Spain.

Have you ever heard of the "Trotskyites" or "Stalinists"? The majority of Communists didnt want to wait like Stalin did and wanted to move full steam ahead.

Belloc · « **Reply #32 on:** March 02, 2010, 07:17:03 AM »

Clovis, any proof MUssolini wa a Freemason?

you do realize that sometimes people aid each other, though very different, right? Also, Franco wa a known anti-Freemason, he was obsessed with stamping them out, rightly so, of course...

so, the Communist/socialists he fought were better than? You do know that marxism was the master baby of Freemasons.

Belloc · « **Reply #33 on:** March 02, 2010, 07:18:21 AM »

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The Soviet Union primarily provided material assistance to the Republican forces. In total the USSR provided Spain with 806 planes, 362 tanks, and 1,555 artillery pieces. The Soviet Union ignored the League of Nations embargo and sold arms to the Republic. Stalin had signed the Non-Intervention Agreement but decided to break the pact.

Develara's goverment in Ireland also sent military assistance to the beleagured Republic...Are you going to tell me that they were also screaming for the blood of priests and nuns and part of an international ʝʊdɛօ-communist conspiracy?

no, they had their own reasons...often times causes make strange bed-fellows....

most real Traditionalist Catholics supported and continue to support Franco......esp so called SV

Belloc · « **Reply #34 on:** March 02, 2010, 07:20:12 AM »

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Their goal was to use a veil of legitimate democratic institutions to outlaw the right and to convert the state into the Soviet vision of a "people's republic" with total leftist domination, a goal which was repeatedly voiced not only in Comintern instructions but also in the public statements of the PCE (Communist Party of Spain)

The goals of the Republicans were communist.

All the Republicans???

Also that flies in the face of the actual geo-political stratergy of Moscow of that time. Its an assertion and nothing more.

The fact that the Soviets wanted to spread communism is not that hard to figure out.

true, thats why when Russian cινιℓ ωαr was over and the Whites defeated, they subjugated the Caucus Republics, the Ukraine and even Mongolia....they stopped only due to resources and manpower...they attempted, recall, in 1920 to invade and communize Poland, luckily Pilsudski stopped them..