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Offline Last Tradhican

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Lucia of Fatima said USA would become Communist
« on: June 24, 2020, 04:58:28 AM »
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    • Sister Lucia of Fatima in 1946 said that the whole world would become communist

     
    While he was the pastor of Our Lady of Fatima Church in Ludlow, Massachusetts, I spent some time with Fr. Manuel Rocha, the interpreter selected for Mr. William Thomas Walsh, who wrote perhaps the most popular book on Fatima. Fr. Rocha told me that one of the questions Mr. Walsh asked him to translate to Sister Lucia during a three hour interview on the afternoon of July 15, 1946, while she was still Sister Maria das Dores, a Dorothean Sister at Vilar near Porto, Portugal, was asked; In your opinion, will every country, without exception, be overcome by communism? Her pale brown eyes staring into his, a little dimple on each cheek, she answered, Yes. Fr. Rocha related to me that Mr. Walsh wanted to be positive about the answer and therefore repeated the question adding, And does that mean the United States of America too?  Sister Lucia answered, Yes.


    We are already there, this Plandemic and the Riots are the final steps. A just punishment from God upon the nation that spread throughout the world the plaques of feminism, divorce, free love, abortion, pornography, sodomy, lesbianism, transgender rights...….
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    Re: Lucia of Fatima said USA would become Communist
    « Reply #1 on: June 24, 2020, 05:05:24 AM »
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    • God conceded to Abraham's request that if he found 10 just men in Sodom and Gomorrah that he would spare them of their annihilation. Abraham could not gather even the ten. The USA and all countries could be saved if we had 100,000, 1,000,000, 10,000,000 just Catholics? Are there even 100,000 just Catholics? I do not think so. And where is this Abraham of today to lead the Catholics? We do not even have a pope. 
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    Re: Lucia of Fatima said USA would become Communist
    « Reply #2 on: June 24, 2020, 07:20:46 AM »
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    • Yes, I agree. Although the communist  have been corrupting this nation for along time, with the virus scam and their riots, they are now openly attacking this nation and taking it over by force, intimidation and large scale propaganda. The few Catholics that are able to see it know something needs to be done, but without any leader, nothing is being done.
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    Re: Lucia of Fatima said USA would become Communist
    « Reply #3 on: June 24, 2020, 08:43:32 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on June 24, 2020, 04:58:28 AM
    Sister Lucia of Fatima in 1946 said that the whole world would become communist

     
    While he was the pastor of Our Lady of Fatima Church in Ludlow, Massachusetts, I spent some time with Fr. Manuel Rocha, the interpreter selected for Mr. William Thomas Walsh, who wrote perhaps the most popular book on Fatima. Fr. Rocha told me that one of the questions Mr. Walsh asked him to translate to Sister Lucia during a three hour interview on the afternoon of July 15, 1946, while she was still Sister Maria das Dores, a Dorothean Sister at Vilar near Porto, Portugal, was asked; In your opinion, will every country, without exception, be overcome by communism? Her pale brown eyes staring into his, a little dimple on each cheek, she answered, Yes. Fr. Rocha related to me that Mr. Walsh wanted to be positive about the answer and therefore repeated the question adding, And does that mean the United States of America too?  Sister Lucia answered, Yes.


    If I recall correctly, in his book on Fatima, Walsh was astonished by Sister Lucia's answer.

    America had just won WWII (so he thought) and was a world leader, resting in tall cotton.

    Three times, he asked his Portuguese translators to confirm the translation of his question and Sister's answer.

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    Re: Lucia of Fatima said USA would become Communist
    « Reply #4 on: June 24, 2020, 08:45:48 AM »
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    • People think communism is Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Castro and the like, but those men were just tools of the puppet masters, the elite capitalists in the USA and the West, it is they put them in power and financial backed those  revolutions. The elite capitalist want communism because it enslaves the people and gives the few in power absolute control. Communism, Socialism, Fabian Socialism, Fascism, they are all the same, control of the masses by very few, sometimes by one as in Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Castro......

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    Re: Lucia of Fatima said USA would become Communist
    « Reply #5 on: June 24, 2020, 09:18:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on June 24, 2020, 08:43:32 AM

    If I recall correctly, in his book on Fatima, Walsh was astonished by Sister Lucia's answer.

    America had just won WWII (so he thought) and was a world leader, resting in tall cotton.

    Three times, he asked his Portuguese translators to confirm the translation of his question and Sister's answer.
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    The account is found at the end of the book, which you can see here.  Scroll down to the very bottom & then up just a bit.  
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    Re: Lucia of Fatima said USA would become Communist
    « Reply #6 on: June 24, 2020, 12:08:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on June 24, 2020, 08:43:32 AM

    ….Walsh was astonished by Sister Lucia's answer. America had just won WWII (so he thought) and was a world leader, resting in tall cotton.
    I never thought of that, 1946 was just one year after the end of WWII, the USSR, Europe and China were in shambles, and the USA was the world's only industrial complex which was ontouched and operating at full speed.  
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    Re: Lucia of Fatima said USA would become Communist
    « Reply #7 on: June 24, 2020, 04:34:06 PM »
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    • Should they have been surprised?! by that answer, yes?!   Twice Pope XII consecrated the world, and not Russia, and another time, Bishops were not all in on this deal with Our Lady.  Was it not said of Sister Lucia that Pope XII did consecration in "half-measure".  That is putting it nicely, that it never happened.

    Hm?  Was the Pope fearful for his life, what about the souls of men?  To ask the Pope for consecration, ( and Our Lady knew ahead of time how this would turn out) and the Bishops part in it, Our Lady was showing to us where the soul of Rome was at.  The soul/heart of Rome was not in serving Our Lady or Her Son.

    I call that rejection!  Rejections hurts very deeply.  And it was a move by Our Lady and Her Son, to show the world Rome did not believe in them to save the souls of the world from Communism.  So, now we get to know what it is like not to have the Powers of the Precious Blood.

    A friend asked me today, why did God wait so long to have His Son come to us, after what 2-3,000 years?  Well, I said, I did read that the one thing that men would have the hardest thing to believe in, and that is the True Presence of Our Lord and so many years building up to His Birth, we have prophecies now being fulfilled.

    So sad the churches closed their doors, and I mean any that claim to be traditional.  That should never happen.
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    Re: Lucia of Fatima said USA would become Communist
    « Reply #8 on: June 24, 2020, 05:08:40 PM »
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    • I don't understand her statement that in Portugal the dogma of the Faith would always be preserved.
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    Re: Lucia of Fatima said USA would become Communist
    « Reply #9 on: June 25, 2020, 07:04:41 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2020, 05:08:40 PM
    I don't understand her statement that in Portugal the dogma of the Faith would always be preserved.
    I've read on the subject many times from many experts and all are just theories. It makes no sense, so all there are, are theories. The best one is that what preceded the statement "in Portugal the dogma of the Faith would always be preserved" has been omitted, has not been revealed, therefore, one can only speculate. I think Tradition in Action has a lengthy article about it.
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    Re: Lucia of Fatima said USA would become Communist
    « Reply #10 on: June 25, 2020, 07:10:37 AM »
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    • Quote from: songbird on June 24, 2020, 04:34:06 PM
    Should they have been surprised?! by that answer, yes?!   Twice Pope XII consecrated the world, and not Russia, and another time, Bishops were not all in on this deal with Our Lady.  Was it not said of Sister Lucia that Pope XII did consecration in "half-measure".  That is putting it nicely, that it never happened.

    Hm?  Was the Pope fearful for his life, what about the souls of men?  To ask the Pope for consecration, ( and Our Lady knew ahead of time how this would turn out) and the Bishops part in it, Our Lady was showing to us where the soul of Rome was at.  The soul/heart of Rome was not in serving Our Lady or Her Son.

    I call that rejection!  Rejections hurts very deeply.  And it was a move by Our Lady and Her Son, to show the world Rome did not believe in them to save the souls of the world from Communism.  So, now we get to know what it is like not to have the Powers of the Precious Blood.

    A friend asked me today, why did God wait so long to have His Son come to us, after what 2-3,000 years?  Well, I said, I did read that the one thing that men would have the hardest thing to believe in, and that is the True Presence of Our Lord and so many years building up to His Birth, we have prophecies now being fulfilled.

    So sad the churches closed their doors, and I mean any that claim to be traditional.  That should never happen.
    Life in the world today is like a race where you are permitted to use any method whatsoever of movement except your legs. The legs are the Catholic Faith LIVED. Of all the solutions they propose to solve the problems, you will never hear them say that THE ONLY method to win the race is the Catholic Faith LIVED. I doubt if 1.3 million people in the world LIVE the Catholic Faith. THAT is why the world is as it is today.

    The anti-Catholicism of U.S. policy has sometimes been stated explicitly by its leaders. Theodore Roosevelt when he paid a visit to South America at the turn of the 20th century said:

    "While these countries remain Catholic," he said, "we will not be able to dominate them."

    Practically no one LIVES the Catholic Faith today, not even the "pope", therefore, the world is easily dominated.
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    Re: Lucia of Fatima said USA would become Communist
    « Reply #11 on: June 25, 2020, 07:27:05 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on June 25, 2020, 07:10:37 AM
    Life in the world today is like a race where you are permitted to use any method whatsoever of movement except your legs. The legs are the Catholic Faith LIVED. Of all the solutions they propose to solve the problems, you will never hear them say that THE ONLY method to win the race is the Catholic Faith LIVED. I doubt if 1.3 million people in the world LIVE the Catholic Faith. THAT is why the world is as it is today.

    The anti-Catholicism of U.S. policy has sometimes been stated explicitly by its leaders. Theodore Roosevelt when he paid a visit to South America at the turn of the 20th century said:

    "While these countries remain Catholic," he said, "we will not be able to dominate them."

    Practically no one LIVES the Catholic Faith today, not even the "pope", therefore, the world is easily dominated.

    We nobodies have no power to change the situation of the world and the Vatican, it is not our duty. Our duty is a simple one, to LIVE the Catholic Faith and to be the popes of our family, the Pope Saint Pius X of our wife and children. I don't see that today among the trads at my SSPX chapel, I do not see them teaching their children to LIVE the faith. Instead, I just see the fathers going to mass on Sundays and talking the faith, if that, and not even knowing what their children are doing during the week, let alone teaching them and doing things with them. There is a very highly regarded traditionalist author that has written a very thick book about a subject of a lot of words here on CI (can't mention the subject or I will be revealing who the person is), while he has been writing books, his children have been left to fend for themselves. He wrote a book for the world, not his job, but he abandoned his children to the world. Today, who knows what kind of life his children live.

    Are you fathers doing your ONLY job like a Pope St. Pius X , or are you here on CI trying to save the world while you are losing your own children?
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    Re: Lucia of Fatima said USA would become Communist
    « Reply #12 on: June 25, 2020, 07:48:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2020, 05:08:40 PM
    I don't understand her statement that in Portugal the dogma of the Faith would always be preserved.

    Well, that's because the sentence cuts off with an "etc."  So nobody who hasn't read the entire thing can understand the meaning.  There could either be some condition place on it or a time limit.  Who knows what came after that.  "will always be preserved ... if the consecration is done." or "will always be preserved until the crisis/Council".  In most languages, the term "always" isn't necessarily an absolute but connotes "continuously" or "continually", having the meaning in context of "will continue to be preserved ... until".  So the very point of the sentence could be the very opposite of the meaning taken in isolation, that the dogma of the faith will CEASE to be preserved at some point, when something happens.
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