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Offline Valentine

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Re: Just ignore Trump's words
« Reply #105 on: October 19, 2024, 03:27:33 PM »
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  • I'm reminded of that powerful passage in the Apocalypse where the angel commands God's people come out of Babylon and not be partakers of her sins. He didn't say, "get back in that voting booth and vote harder this time!
    You might just get a capital gains tax cut or a different group of joos to run the state department!"

    What's absurd about all these threads related to the election is that the number of eligible voters who are traditional Catholics wouldn't even fill the stadium of a single Taylor Swift concert. 
    Any thoughtful and well informed voter is outnumbered thousands to one. And that's precisely why democracy is the one political system the elites push on every nation or culture. They found the perfect formula for soft tyranny by
    providing this farce of participation every 4 years.  
    In what other system could a Bush jr, an Obama, a Biden, Romney, McCain, Peℓσѕι, Schummer float to the top, like a turd you can't flush.  

    Offline Gray2023

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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #106 on: October 19, 2024, 03:49:49 PM »
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  • You, Michelle, Lad are among the few who get it.
    We have been voting for the lesser of two evils since the creation of this masonic nation. Where has it gotten us?
    To the point of ethnic replacement of our people throughout Europe and North America, to the point where you will get fired from your job if you misgender a troon, have to pay for abortion mills out of your salary, an entire month devoted to gαy pride, a nation where your kid will be taken away from you if you object to him being castrated, etc, etc.
    This is what compromise after comprise looks like...a population troglodytes whose lives revolve around porn, video games, professional sports, weed, marvel movies, rap. Imagine thinking your vote is going to affect this sickness of the soul.
    In 2016 I voted for Trump and what I got was President Kushner
    What do you mean by ethnic replacement of our people?  So God only loves one group of people?  I do believe God loves all humans, no matter who they are. 
    I hope I misunderstood you.

    Your language in this post worries me.  It sounds like you fear demons and humans more than God. It feels like you put too much faith in man.

    God is completely in control of all this crazy.  He knows exactly what He is doing, we just have to do our little part.

    Focusing on how people are going to vote in the election is misplaced.  Do you really care for the souls you think are sinning?  Are you focusing on offering up prayers and then listening for His answer?  

    I pray all the time.  I get nos or not right nows all the time.  Does that mean I should give up and hide in a corner?

    God believing people heckled at a hαɾɾιs convention and she told them they were in the wrong place.  With hαɾɾιs in office, God won't be allowed, with Trump, there might be a little, very little hope, but all we need is just a tiny little mustard seed of hope.

    Vote or don't vote, God still wins in the end.

    Prayers for all.
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"


    Offline Gloria Tibi Domine

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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #107 on: October 19, 2024, 09:32:22 PM »
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  • They can’t be consistent.  All their energy is spent every 4 years, clamoring that voting is as evil as satan himself.  Meanwhile, every paycheck, they send $ to the very people they refuse to vote for. 


    We’re forced to play the game.  They’ve yet to figure it out.
    Exactly, it seems there is a real lack of conviction. 

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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #108 on: October 20, 2024, 09:15:02 AM »
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  • They can’t be consistent.  All their energy is spent every 4 years, clamoring that voting is as evil as satan himself.  Meanwhile, every paycheck, they send $ to the very people they refuse to vote for. 


    We’re forced to play the game.  They’ve yet to figure it out.

    lol, I never thought of it like that.

    God Bless

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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #109 on: October 20, 2024, 09:20:43 AM »
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  • I'm reminded of that powerful passage in the Apocalypse where the angel commands God's people come out of Babylon and not be partakers of her sins.

    What's absurd about all these threads related to the election is that the number of eligible voters who are traditional Catholics wouldn't even fill the stadium of a single Taylor Swift concert.

    Ironically, I agree and if Hαɾɾιs wins I'm reminded of the verse "because she saith in her heart; I sit a queen" and destruction befalls her in a day, Revelation 18:7-8.

    Then the second part you call it all pointless anyway so why waste time here condemning Trump and trying to tell people not to vote for him? It doesn't matter anyway according to you.

    "For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."


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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #110 on: October 20, 2024, 05:09:58 PM »
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  • Exactly, it seems there is a real lack of conviction.
    There's a difference between being born into slavery (taxation) and voting in the slave masters.

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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #111 on: October 20, 2024, 06:53:02 PM »
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  • There's a difference between being born into slavery (taxation) and voting in the slave masters.
    Lame excuse.  It appears your convictions have a limit, don't they?

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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #112 on: October 20, 2024, 07:34:45 PM »
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  • There's a difference between being born into slavery (taxation) and voting in the slave masters.
    You are correct Michelle. 
    I would point out however that the money we pay in taxes doesn't really go toward roads, bridges, tanks, schools, or abortions.
    The Fed prints money out of thin air. We have a fiat currency not backed by anything really except the soon to vanish petrol dollar and waining military might.
    The average American has a very quaint notion of how the economy actually works. They go to the local farmer's market, hand over some money and get a bag of tomatoes. They think the government acts the same way but on are far large scale. The money you earn which is sent to the IRS isn't bundled together with everyone else's then handed over to such and such a department to pay its salaries. There isn't a safety deposit box in some cavernous building with all the money awaiting you from what you paid into social security. The Fed just prints that.
    Same goes with the bank you took out your mortgage with. With fractional reserve banking, a bank can lend you money to buy a house that it doesn't actually even have. But it will tack on interest.
    It's just numbers on a computer.
    No person you know could ever get away with the way the government and banks operate. 
    The average person hears about our 37 TRILLION debt and then sees congress hand out billions to other countries like it was chump change. Yet, the politicians don't seem the least bit perturbed by this debt. Every wonder why?
    The reasons are manifold but they know this system is unsustainable and designed to collapse. 
    This will provide the pretext for a CBDC, central bank digital currency, another integral part of the beast system.




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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #113 on: October 20, 2024, 07:45:19 PM »
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  • Valentine, you and the bunch are skirting the issue. If your vote means consent to the immorality of the politician, then your taxes imply consent to the immorality funded by those taxes. If you can't vote for this reason, then stop paying taxes- that is if your convictions are firm enough.

    Lame excuse- "We are born into it". You're also born into the current political system.
    Convictions should be firm no matter what the tax system is.

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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #114 on: October 20, 2024, 07:57:41 PM »
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  • Valentine, you and the bunch are skirting the issue. If your vote means consent to the immorality of the politician, then your taxes imply consent to the immorality funded by those taxes. If you can't vote for this reason, then stop paying taxes- that is if your convictions are firm enough.

    Lame excuse- "We are born into it". You're also born into the current political system.
    Convictions should be firm no matter what the tax system is.
    I could easily counter by saying that pro lifers lack the courage of their convictions otherwise they would go full Eric Rudolph. 
    If I saw someone in a Walmart parking lot abducting a child I would do anything, including using deadly force, to rescue that child. When you call abortion murder of an innocent baby and then say we'll just let the courts work it once we tip the number of justices in our favor.
    It's to all of our collective shame we tolerate it. No wonder the Muslims must think us weak. When the governments in England tried to push the GLBT propaganda in mostly Muslim schools they shut that down immediately.
    Because they were unified with outrage and would risk their jobs, citizenship, and lives to prove it. Catholics were once like that, in the grand old days of the Crusades and Inquisition.

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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #115 on: October 20, 2024, 08:20:57 PM »
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  • I could easily counter by saying that pro lifers lack the courage of their convictions otherwise they would go full Eric Rudolph.
    If I saw someone in a Walmart parking lot abducting a child I would do anything, including using deadly force, to rescue that child. When you call abortion murder of an innocent baby and then say we'll just let the courts work it once we tip the number of justices in our favor.
    It's to all of our collective shame we tolerate it. No wonder the Muslims must think us weak. When the governments in England tried to push the GLBT propaganda in mostly Muslim schools they shut that down immediately.
    Because they were unified with outrage and would risk their jobs, citizenship, and lives to prove it. Catholics were once like that, in the grand old days of the Crusades and Inquisition.
    That is truly the militant spirit we are missing as Catholics!  We cover our cowardness by calling it prudence.  If the traditional Catholic leaders would stand up and sound the alarm, the laity would follow.


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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #116 on: October 20, 2024, 08:40:45 PM »
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  • That is truly the militant spirit we are missing as Catholics!  We cover our cowardness by calling it prudence.  If the traditional Catholic leaders would stand up and sound the alarm, the laity would follow.
    I can understand your frustration.  We do live in a time with many cowards. Do you have these conversations with traditional Catholic leaders?  Are their any traditional Catholic leaders on CathInfo?

    Would you be willing to prayer the Rosary in front of a government building, ask some friends to join?

    I live near DC and have the opportunity to walk around the White House praying the Rosary. We are very lucky that praying in public is still an option.  I know at least in England and Italy you can get in trouble for praying the rosary in public. These little things matter much to God.

    Just because I am tired of all the infighting between Catholics doesn't mean I have stuck my head in the sand.  We can only fight where we stand.
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #117 on: October 20, 2024, 08:44:41 PM »
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  • That is truly the militant spirit we are missing as Catholics!  We cover our cowardness by calling it prudence.  If the traditional Catholic leaders would stand up and sound the alarm, the laity would follow.
    Absolutely, all the Bishops are silent, it seems Archbishop Vigano is the only one and he is doing it only periodically and on certain issues.

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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #118 on: October 20, 2024, 09:34:52 PM »
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  • I can understand your frustration.  We do live in a time with many cowards. Do you have these conversations with traditional Catholic leaders?  Are their any traditional Catholic leaders on CathInfo?

    Would you be willing to prayer the Rosary in front of a government building, ask some friends to join?

    I live near DC and have the opportunity to walk around the White House praying the Rosary. We are very lucky that praying in public is still an option.  I know at least in England and Italy you can get in trouble for praying the rosary in public. These little things matter much to God.

    Just because I am tired of all the infighting between Catholics doesn't mean I have stuck my head in the sand.  We can only fight where we stand.

    What they are really implying is another doomed rebellion like the Vendee which will spur on the reign of terror, they think they can take matters into their own hands and override legitimate authority, just as with the Vendee, the Sacred Heart was not given for them to use as a military standard, it was given to King Louis XIV who spurned it.

    In the end, all sides ended up on the chopping block, the Vendee, the Moderates and the Radicals such as Robespierre, so all sides should think about that.

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    Shortly before his return to the Russian Federation after decades of exile in 1993, former Soviet dissident and winner of the 1970 Nobel Prize in Literature Alexander Solzhenitsyn delivered a speech in Les Lucs-sur-Boulogne to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the Vendée Uprising. Coming down strongly in favor of calling the Republican response genocidal, Solzhenitsyn compared Vladimir Lenin's Bolsheviks following the October Revolution with the leadership of the Jacobin Club during the French Revolution. Solzhenitsyn also compared the Vendean rebels with the Russian, Ukrainian, and Cossack peasants who similarly rebelled against the Bolsheviks, saying that both were destroyed mercilessly by "revolutionary despotism". He commented sadly that, while the French Reign of Terror ended with the Thermidorian reaction, the toppling of the Jacobin single party state by the French Revolutionary Army, and the execution of Maximilien Robespierre, its Soviet equivalent continued to accelerate until the Khrushchev thaw of the 1950s.

    It was the Martyrs of Compiegne that ended the reign of terror, that's why it did not endure.

    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."

    God Bless

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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #119 on: October 20, 2024, 09:44:03 PM »
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  • What they are really implying is another doomed rebellion like the Vendee which will spur on the reign of terror, they think they can take matters into their own hands and override legitimate authority, just as with the Vendee, the Sacred Heart was not given for them to use as a military standard, it was given to King Louis XIV who spurned it.

    In the end, all sides ended up on the chopping block, the Vendee, the Moderates and the Radicals such as Robespierre, so all sides should think about that.

    It was the Martyrs of Compiegne that ended the reign of terror, that's why it did not endure.

    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."

    God Bless


    What they are really implying is another doomed rebellion like the Vendee which will spur on the reign of terror, they think they can take matters into their own hands and override legitimate authority, just as with the Vendee, the Sacred Heart was not given for them to use as a military standard, it was given to King Louis XIV who spurned it.

    In the end, all sides ended up on the chopping block, the Vendee, the Moderates and the Radicals such as Robespierre, so all sides should think about that.

    It was the Martyrs of Compiegne that ended the reign of terror, that's why it did not endure.

    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."

    God Bless

    Your comments reveal a disturbing misunderstanding of the essence of our faith and the heroic legacy of the Vendeans, who exemplified true Catholic resistance in the face of tyranny. To imply that invoking the Sacred Heart—a potent symbol of divine love and strength—leads to another doomed rebellion is to blaspheme the very nature of our faith. The Vendeans stood resolutely for their God-given rights and the true teachings of the Church, courageously defying overwhelming odds. Your perspective seems to reflect a troubling lukewarmness, a hesitancy to confront the moral crises that besiege us today. We cannot afford to be complacent; the spirit of Archbishop Lefebvre calls us to unwavering conviction and action. Are you truly Catholic, or have you allowed fear and passivity to overshadow the call to defend our faith?