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Judge Andrew P. Napolitano on Francis
« on: May 18, 2014, 08:56:35 PM »
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    • Judge Andrew P. Napolitano speaks of Francis here (beginning @8:00):
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/Po39lqK9zTc?t=8m13s[/youtube]
    He's bordering on sedevacantism.
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    « Reply #1 on: May 18, 2014, 10:13:44 PM »
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    • Um I'm not defending Pope Francis of course but in this instance the Pope is right and Andrew is wrong. When the Pope decries vulture capitalism and its exploiting of the poor people it calls to mind Leo XIII's encyclical of how the industrialists should not oppress others (for the record I am not a Marxist so I do support class harmony but class harmony works both ways where the rich also must sacrifice). This is an example of capitalism that is devoid of morality. Another example would be the Enron scandal for instance.

    As for Judge Napolitano he and his Austrian School compatriots are out of the loop of any economic reality where democratic capitalism is supreme. America's decline has proven this is nothing but wording and not reality as China is continuing on its economic growth based on autocracy, mercantilism, repression, extreme nationalism, authoritarianism, etc.

    A good nation is one where jobs and the domestic market stays within the nation while wages and benefits rise for the worker.
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    « Reply #2 on: May 18, 2014, 11:06:22 PM »
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    • Judge Napolitano is not Catholic so what do you expect?
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    Judge Andrew P. Napolitano on Francis
    « Reply #3 on: May 19, 2014, 03:25:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche
    Judge Napolitano is not Catholic so what do you expect?

    He is not a Catholic? I thought he was an indult Catholic. Oh well, I have been wrong before.
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    « Reply #4 on: May 19, 2014, 03:44:33 PM »
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    • I thought he was Catholic as well.
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    « Reply #5 on: May 19, 2014, 06:41:39 PM »
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    • What is Capitalism? What is Socialism? What's the difference between them?

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    « Reply #6 on: May 20, 2014, 02:58:53 AM »
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    • If you want to know what the traditional Catholic teaching on this subject I recommend a study of Rerum Novarum

    http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/docuмents/hf_l-xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum_en.html
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    « Reply #7 on: May 20, 2014, 02:03:39 PM »
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    « Reply #8 on: May 20, 2014, 02:14:34 PM »
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    Um I'm not defending Pope Francis of course but in this instance the Pope is right and Andrew is wrong. When the Pope decries vulture capitalism and its exploiting of the poor people it calls to mind Leo XIII's encyclical of how the industrialists should not oppress others (for the record I am not a Marxist so I do support class harmony but class harmony works both ways where the rich also must sacrifice). This is an example of capitalism that is devoid of morality. Another example would be the Enron scandal for instance.


    Listen from 14:45 to 15:47, Andrew is right and backs it up with pre-V2 reference.  Francis is a socialist at best, a communist at worst.

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    « Reply #9 on: May 22, 2014, 02:26:43 PM »
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    • Rerum Novarum doesn't say what people think it says.  And Rerum Novarum needs to be viewed in light of Pope Leo XIII's other writings also.  

    Besides, is there a single union today that isn't run by atheists and/or socialists?  These are people who give their life's work and the very blood in their veins to destroying the Catholic church and all belief in God.  Pope Leo XIII would only approve of the kind of unions that were trade guilds in the middle ages.  



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    « Reply #10 on: May 22, 2014, 02:54:18 PM »
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    Judge Napolitano is not Catholic so what do you expect?

    He is not a Catholic? I thought he was an indult Catholic. Oh well, I have been wrong before.

    He specifically claims to be a "pre-Vatican II Catholic" in the video.
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    « Reply #11 on: May 22, 2014, 03:35:07 PM »
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    Judge Napolitano is not Catholic so what do you expect?

    He is not a Catholic? I thought he was an indult Catholic. Oh well, I have been wrong before.

    He specifically claims to be a "pre-Vatican II Catholic" in the video.


    Is that why poche called him a non-Catholic?
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    « Reply #12 on: May 22, 2014, 03:37:52 PM »
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    • I'm not sure why you think he borders on sedevacantism.  He specifically states that he recognizes him as the Vicar of Christ.
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    Judge Andrew P. Napolitano on Francis
    « Reply #13 on: May 22, 2014, 05:24:35 PM »
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    Judge Napolitano is not Catholic so what do you expect?

    He is not a Catholic? I thought he was an indult Catholic. Oh well, I have been wrong before.

    He specifically claims to be a "pre-Vatican II Catholic" in the video.

    Is that why poche called him a non-Catholic?


    I hadn't thought about it that way.   :laugh1:  I guess he'll have to answer that one.
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    « Reply #14 on: May 22, 2014, 05:31:48 PM »
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    Judge Napolitano is not Catholic so what do you expect?

    He is not a Catholic? I thought he was an indult Catholic. Oh well, I have been wrong before.

    He specifically claims to be a "pre-Vatican II Catholic" in the video.

    Is that why poche called him a non-Catholic?


    I hadn't thought about it that way.   :laugh1:  I guess he'll have to answer that one.


    I actually don't think he did mean it that way.  He doesn't seem to be the type.  
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