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Offline Geremia

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  • "An Interview with Rep. Josh Shapiro" Philadelphia Jєωιѕн Voice (PJV) from 2007, when he was Deputy Speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives:

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    PJV: Is Judaism part of your adult life?

    Very much so. It was part of my childhood; it is certainly part of my adult life. My family and I are observant Jєωs. I went to Jєωιѕн Day School at Solomon Schecter and at Akiba, and I think, most importantly, is the influence my Judaism has on my public service. For me, when you boil down all the teachings and all the rituals, fundamentally, Judaism is teaching that none of us is required to complete the task, but neither is any of us free to refrain from it. It is really what guides me in my public service, and what that means, then, is that we don’t have a requirement on us to solve every problem, but we are also not permitted to sit on the sidelines and leave someone else do it for us. And so for me, the public service arena has been my way of doing my part to help complete the task.

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    PJV: With regard to Roe v. Wade, if the Roberts’ court votes to overturn earlier criteria for permissible termination of pregnancy, would you support a reargument based on First Amendment, Jєωιѕн religious grounds?  That is, freedom of religion grounds -- that Jєωs, in some instances, are not just allowed but required[to terminate a pregnancy?

    That’s an interesting argument. I had not thought about that. I would support any argument to protect a woman’s right to choose, and if we can make an argument on religious grounds, I would.  Should the issue of abortion come back to the states in the event that the Roberts’ court would overturn Roe v. Wade, I would vote to keep abortion safe, legal and rare.

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    PJV: With regard to same sex marriages, is there a reason why the Commonwealth could not apply the term civil union to all householding couples and eliminate the state government’s involvement with religious sacrament of marriage entirely, but simply avoiding the term marriage in all of its laws and regulations.

    It could, but I think it is unrealistic.  Marriage is an important institution in our Commonwealth; it certainly is to me. I would not like to undermine the union of marriage in any way, shape or form.  I think the real issue is whether I would want to confer rights on same sex couples, the same rights as married couples enjoy, and the answer to that is yes.  A same sex couple committed in a relationship should have the same rights and responsibilities as a married couple.

    PJV: My point is that if someone wants to take away that capability from some people, why not just take it away from everybody and leave the sacrament of marriage up to churches, ѕуηαgσgυєs, mosques and other religious institutions?

    I suppose that is one approach.  I would have to look into that and see what I think.  I would not want to take the notion of marriage out of our state law.
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    Josh Shapiro: "I would support any argument to protect" child-killing.
    « Reply #1 on: August 23, 2018, 09:41:53 AM »
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  • Shapiro is willing to defend child-killing on religious grounds!
    Quote from: Josh Shapiro, Pennsylvania attorney general
    I would support any argument to protect…[child-killing], and if we can make an argument on religious grounds, I would.
    (source)

    Judaism is a satanic ideology like Islam; cf. ch. 28 of The Jєωιѕн Revolutionary Spirit.
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    Re: Josh Shapiro on Judaism, religious freedom, abortion, & sodomy
    « Reply #2 on: August 24, 2018, 08:17:47 PM »
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  • http://www.rcrc.org/resources/sermons_prayers/roe_Jєωιѕн_sermon.htm              

    A Sermon for Jєωιѕн Congregations
    A few years ago, a woman called the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, looking for rabbinic counseling. A divorced mother of two teenage sons, she was an active member of her local Jєωιѕн community, attended the Conservative ѕуηαgσgυє regularly, and studied with a local Orthodox rabbi. She had had an abortion the previous week, at six weeks of pregnancy. She was very concerned that people in the small Jєωιѕн community would find out and disapprove. Her comment when speaking to the rabbi at the Religious Coalition was that, while it had always been her custom to light the Shabbat candles every Friday night, on that previous Friday night she did not because she did not feel “clean enough.”
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    As a rabbi, that story is particularly poignant, because of that woman’s pain and also because it points up to me what a bad job we rabbis have done in educating the Jєωιѕн community about Judaism’s position on abortion. For the reality is, Judaism has always allowed for the possibility that abortion may, in some circuмstances, not only be the best choice for a woman to make, but also may be the only possible choice for her to make. 

    For the Mishnah says, in Oholot 7.6:
    “If a woman has (life-threatening) difficulty in childbirth, one dismembers the embryo within her, limb by limb, because her life takes precedence over its life. Once its head has emerged, it may not be touched, for we do not set aside one life for another.” …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
    ……………………………………………………………………..It is our obligation as Jєωs, committed to social justice, partners with God in perfecting our world, to do all in our power to keep Roe as the law of the land. We must speak out, we must vote, we must march, picket and protest. We must let our lawmakers know that we will not allow them to turn back the clock on women’s rights!
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    Most mitzvot are to be fulfilled as the occasion arises. There are only two instances where we are actively enjoined to seek out opportunities to fulfill a particular commandment. They are “Seek peace and pursue it,” and “Justice, justice, you shall pursue.” When we as Jєωs advocate for reproductive freedom, we are pursuing justice for women and seeking peace among the diverse religious communities of this country.
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    Finally, because we are talking about much more than abortion, because we are talking about the social and economic injustices in our society that both make abortion necessary and so often make it inaccessible to those who need it, for this reason I believe we are commanded by God, the prophets, and our own moral consciences to stand up and speak out to ensure justice and freedom of choice for all.
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    And this is truly holy work.
    Ken yehi ratzon – let it be God’s will.
     
    © 2005 Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: Josh Shapiro on Judaism, religious freedom, abortion, & sodomy
    « Reply #3 on: August 24, 2018, 10:36:04 PM »
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  • © 2005 Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice
    Wow, I never knew such an ungodly organization existed.
    thanks for posting
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    Re: Josh Shapiro on Judaism, religious freedom, abortion, & sodomy
    « Reply #4 on: August 25, 2018, 04:42:04 AM »
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  • Geremia, they've been around since 1973. 

    The Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice (RCRC) is a pro-choice organization founded in 1973 by clergy and lay leaders from mainline denominations and faith traditions to create an interfaith organization following the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion in the U.S.Here is their mission statement:

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    Pro Faith. Pro Family. Pro Choice.
    The Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice (RCRC) is a broad-based, national, interfaith movement that brings the moral force of religion to protect and advance reproductive health, choice, rights and justice through education, prophetic witness, pastoral presence and advocacy.

    RCRC values and promotes religious liberty which upholds the human and constitutional rights of all people to exercise their conscience to make their own reproductive health decisions without shame and stigma. RCRC challenges systems of oppression and seeks to remove the multiple barriers that impede individuals, especially those in marginalized communities in accessing comprehensive reproductive health care with respect and dignity.
    http://rcrc.org/mission-statement/

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    Re: Josh Shapiro on Judaism, religious freedom, abortion, & sodomy
    « Reply #5 on: August 25, 2018, 01:04:08 PM »
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  • Our main priority should be working to restore the true Mass, sacraments, Christian morals.  It is long overdue to rid the Church of apostates and schismatic who work those who hate Jesus.   
    May God bless you and keep you