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Offline Hatchc

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« on: June 21, 2013, 10:36:52 PM »
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  • So in my reading about various powerful nations in Europe in the last 500 years I've noticed a recurring cycle:

    The Jews come in large numbers, the nation experiences the greatest power it has ever known, the Jews leave (or are expelled), and then the nation goes back to having a normal amount of power.

    Isn't it true that the Dutch, the Spanish, the Portuguese, the English, and now the Americans have achieved their greatest power when Jews were at the helm?

    Any powerful European nations in the last 500 years that were not controlled by Jews, at least by proxy?

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    « Reply #1 on: June 21, 2013, 10:52:08 PM »
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    Any powerful European nations in the last 500 years that were not controlled by Jews, at least by proxy?


    The Kingdom of France and the Russian Empire.  Spain actually peaked in power precisely after the Jews were expelled.


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    « Reply #2 on: June 21, 2013, 10:56:46 PM »
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  • What about the Austro-Hungarian empire?

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    « Reply #3 on: June 21, 2013, 11:11:52 PM »
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    What about the Austro-Hungarian empire?


    Comfortably in the Jewish grip.  All of the major industrial centers in Austria-Hungary were run by Jews, especially Budapest.  Hungarian cities in the old days -- before the mass Jewish deportation during WWII and emigration from afterwards -- were wantonly dominated by Jews.  Incidentally, most of the major Polish cities of note were also almost entirely run by Jews.  Mayer Amschel Rothschild was actually given his baronial title posthumously by Francis I of Austria, the founder of the entity known as the Austrian Empire, which eventually became the Austro-Hungarian Empire through the Augsleich (Compromise) of 1867.  It was full of Freemasons, too.

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    « Reply #4 on: June 22, 2013, 01:44:20 AM »
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    What about the Austro-Hungarian empire?


    There weren't many Jews in Vienna until the latter half of the 19th Century.

    The Jews ruined the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

    http://archive.org/details/IsraelDestructeurDEmpires


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    « Reply #5 on: June 22, 2013, 03:54:53 AM »
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  • It's not only the case in Europe - the great Asian powers of the industrial age were also totally in the hands of the Jews. I'm thinking in particular of the Japanese empire and individuals like Jacob Schiff, or Mao Zedong and his good friends Israel Epstein, Sidney Shapiro, Frank Coe, Solomon Adler.

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    « Reply #6 on: June 22, 2013, 11:23:28 AM »
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    What about the Austro-Hungarian empire?


    There weren't many Jews in Vienna until the latter half of the 19th Century.

    The Jews ruined the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

    http://archive.org/details/IsraelDestructeurDEmpires


    I wish somebody would translate this.

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    « Reply #7 on: June 22, 2013, 11:27:57 AM »
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  • Going farther back, the Byzantine Empire. Any thoughts? I've read that the Byzantines did a magnificent job of keeping the Jews out of power by barring them from education, politics and finance. They didn't slaughter them or expel them.



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    « Reply #8 on: June 22, 2013, 12:36:08 PM »
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    Any powerful European nations in the last 500 years that were not controlled by Jews, at least by proxy?


    The Kingdom of France and the Russian Empire.  Spain actually peaked in power precisely after the Jews were expelled.


    What about National Socialist Germany and Fascist Italy?

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    « Reply #9 on: June 22, 2013, 12:37:34 PM »
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  • Quote from: Hatchc
    So in my reading about various powerful nations in Europe in the last 500 years I've noticed a recurring cycle:

    The Jews come in large numbers, the nation experiences the greatest power it has ever known, the Jews leave (or are expelled), and then the nation goes back to having a normal amount of power.

    Isn't it true that the Dutch, the Spanish, the Portuguese, the English, and now the Americans have achieved their greatest power when Jews were at the helm?

    Any powerful European nations in the last 500 years that were not controlled by Jews, at least by proxy?


    Quite a few Jews 'converted' so there were still powerful Jews in those countries.

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    « Reply #10 on: June 22, 2013, 12:50:16 PM »
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    Any powerful European nations in the last 500 years that were not controlled by Jews, at least by proxy?


    The Kingdom of France and the Russian Empire.  Spain actually peaked in power precisely after the Jews were expelled.


    What about National Socialist Germany and Fascist Italy?


    Good point!

    Do you think there's anything to the theory that Hitler was a tool of the Jews?


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    « Reply #11 on: June 22, 2013, 01:10:33 PM »
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  • No, I don't think Hitler was a tool of the Jews. NS Germany fought against Bolshevism, Capitalism, Freemasonry etc. They all were very pro-jewish. I have heard some claims that he was, but the people who claim that also believe in the Holocaust and say that he killed them all so that Jews could get a homeland, Israel.

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    « Reply #12 on: June 22, 2013, 01:16:10 PM »
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    No, I don't think Hitler was a tool of the Jews. NS Germany fought against Bolshevism, Capitalism, Freemasonry etc. They all were very pro-jewish. I have heard some claims that he was, but the people who claim that also believe in the Holocaust and say that he killed 6 million Jews so that Jews could get a homeland, Israel.

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    « Reply #13 on: June 22, 2013, 01:16:31 PM »
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    Any powerful European nations in the last 500 years that were not controlled by Jews, at least by proxy?


    The Kingdom of France and the Russian Empire.  Spain actually peaked in power precisely after the Jews were expelled.


    What about National Socialist Germany and Fascist Italy?


    How long did their power last again ?  I assumed the questioner was looking for countries that were powerful for a decent amount of time, such as, at the very least, more than one generation.

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    « Reply #14 on: June 22, 2013, 01:40:08 PM »
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    Any powerful European nations in the last 500 years that were not controlled by Jews, at least by proxy?


    The Kingdom of France and the Russian Empire.  Spain actually peaked in power precisely after the Jews were expelled.


    What about National Socialist Germany and Fascist Italy?


    How long did their power last again ?  I assumed the questioner was looking for countries that were powerful for a decent amount of time, such as, at the very least, more than one generation.


    They were brief and bright flashes of independence from Jewry, it's true.

    But they count.

     

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