Vance, like Trump, like hαɾɾιs, like Biden and every member of the federal government is a servant of Israel.
The left and the right might be tossed a bone here and there to keep each group of voters invested in the system but
the lesser of two evils approach has only gotten us more evil, to the point western nations make Sodom seem like
a Sunday school picnic

every member of the federal government is a servant of Israel

Rep. Thomas Massie doesn't accept AIPAC bribes.

I guess I would like to know how he has proven to be "pro-life" in the past.

I also want to know where he currently stands on the issues with respect to some of the things that Trump has been saying.  Because it seems to me that if he is pro-life (and calls himself Catholic) then he would educate and dissuade Trump from saying some things that he has said about abortion and IVF.

I'm more concerned with his position on these matters during the campaign than Trump because he is supposedly the Catholic.  That is what I meant by my OP. 

Ok. I actually prefer the term "abolitionist" to just pro-life, because ultimately abortion like slavery should be abolished. JD Vance has made clear he sees it that way too: "He has supported a federal abortion ban, opposed exceptions for rape and incest, said he wanted to protect life “from the date of conception” and frequently described himself as “100 percent pro-life.” “I think two wrongs don’t make a right; at the end of day, we are talking about an unborn baby,” he told an Ohio radio host in September 2021 before Roe v. Wade was overturned in part by three Supreme Court justices appointed by the man who named him to the Republicans’ 2024 presidential ticket. “It’s not whether a woman should be forced to bring a child to term. It’s whether a child should be allowed to live.” https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/17/us/politics/jd-vance-abortion.html

Also, Vance supported defunded Planned Parenthood: "Vance says a future Trump administration would defund Planned Parenthood. Vance said his view is "consistent" with Trump, whose administration slashed funding for Planned Parenthood and who said in 2016 that he would “defund it because I’m pro-life.” https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/vance-says-future-trump-administration-defund-planned-parenthood-rcna174211 Each time, in 2016 and now in 2024, Trump had a VP who is more pro-life than he was. Pence behind the scenes would have pushed Trump in a more pro-life direction and I believe Vance was chosen by God to play precisely the same role in the next administration. Even if Trump-Vance do no more for the pro-life/abolitionist cause than replace Justices Alito and Thomas with 2 35 year old pro-life conservatives, that's a win imo, because those pro-life Justices will then shape the direction of the court for the next 2 to 3 decades until, as we hope, abortion is completely abolished in law.

I don't see how anything Vance reportedly believed in (he's backtracked now) would determine whether one can vote for Trump.  IMO, it could potentially disqualify a vote for Trump if the VP pick were really bad, since the person MIGHT become President, but you have to proceed under the assumption that Trump will serve out his term.

Quote from: 2Vermont 18/10/2024, 17:07:57
Can you post the full article at NYT?  You have to subscribe in order to see it.

Sure, 2Vermont. Please find it below:

"Opposition to Abortion Rights Is at Center of J.D. Vance’s Political Career
As he joins Donald J. Trump’s presidential ticket, Mr. Vance is seeking to play down, and in some cases rewrite, his views.


Throughout his brief political career, Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio has been an unapologetic opponent of abortion rights, a view driven by his Catholic faith and one he has cited as a driving force in his agenda.
He has supported a federal abortion ban, opposed exceptions for rape and incest, said he wanted to protect life “from the date of conception” and frequently described himself as “100 percent pro-life.”
“I think two wrongs don’t make a right; at the end of day, we are talking about an unborn baby,” he told an Ohio radio host in September 2021 before Roe v. Wade was overturned in part by three Supreme Court justices appointed by the man who named him to the Republicans’ 2024 presidential ticket. “It’s not whether a woman should be forced to bring a child to term. It’s whether a child should be allowed to live.”

In January 2023, Mr. Vance signed a letter asking the Justice Department to enforce the Comstock Act, a long-dormant law from 1873, to ban the mailing of abortion medication. Such an action could significantly limit access to such medication, which accounts for a majority of abortions in the country.

“While the use of chemical abortion drugs may be legal in some states, and federal law does not currently explicitly prohibit the use of such drugs, federal law does prohibit the mailing or shipping of such items,” read the letter, which was signed by more than two dozen Republican lawmakers. “Despite attempts to downplay this action, the ‘mere mailing’ of these items is expressly what the law has prohibited for nearly 150 years.”

Enforcing the Comstock Act is included in a plan released by a coalition that has been drawing up America First-style policy plans, nicknamed Project 2025 — though the law is referred to only by the statute number. Mr. Vance has publicly praised those plans as containing “some good ideas,” even as former President Donald J. Trump has tried to distance himself from the effort.
Now, as he joins Mr. Trump’s presidential ticket, Mr. Vance is seeking to play down — and in some cases rewrite — those views, saying he backs Mr. Trump’s support for “reasonable exceptions” and for allowing states to decide their own limits on abortion.
“My view is that Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party, and his views on abortion are going to be the views that dominate this party and drive this party forward,” Mr. Vance said on Monday in an interview on Fox News, after he was named to the ticket. “You have to believe in reasonable exceptions because that’s where the American people are. And you’ve got to let individual states make this decision.”
His current position is a clear softening for a candidate who once described staunch opposition to abortion as one of the most crucial litmus tests for conservatives.

Since entering politics in 2022, with his run for a Senate seat in Ohio, Mr. Vance has cast himself as a fierce opponent of abortion rights, supporting a Texas law that made abortion functionally illegal in the state and that authorizes residents to enforce the ban. The 2021 law transformed Texas, criminalizing abortion before the Supreme Court overturned the right nationwide.

“I think one of the most important issues for the conservative movement is the right to life,” Mr. Vance told a crowd gathered for a campaign town-hall-style meeting in February 2022. “If you’re not willing to stand on that issue, I think it indicates your character is weak and you don’t have the fortitude to actually serve the interest of our voters.”
He carried those beliefs into the Senate, where he has voted against protecting the right to fertility treatments like I.V.F. He has also opposed judicial nominees with a history of supporting abortion rights and legislation that expressed support for protecting access to abortion.
Mr. Vance has urged Republicans to be not just anti-abortion but “pro-baby and pro-family and pro-people who are raising our families.”
He has cast Democrats as extreme on the issue, saying that the party supports abortion until birth. Abortions so late in pregnancy are very rare, making up less than 1 percent of all procedures. Most Democrats say the issue should be left for women and their doctors to decide.

President Biden’s campaign sees fresh opportunities in Mr. Vance’s past statements. On Wednesday evening, it plans to release an advertisement featuring Hadley Duvall, a Kentucky abortion rights activist who says she was raped by her stepfather as a girl.
Mr. Vance is fluent in the language of the anti-abortion movement, attacking what followers often call the “abortion lobby” and likening abortion rights to American slavery.
“There’s something comparable between abortion and slavery,” Mr. Vance said, “and that while the people who obviously suffer the most are those subjected to it, I think it has this morally distorting effect on the entire society.”
Mr. Vance was so outspoken in his anti-abortion views that he won a 100 percent rating from Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America, a prominent anti-abortion political organization.
“J.D. Vance is an exceptional selection as President Trump’s running mate,” said Marjorie Dannenfelser, the president of the group, who praised his “courage” in “exposing the Democrats’ agenda of abortion for any reason.”

Sure, 2Vermont. Please find it below:

"Opposition to Abortion Rights Is at Center of J.D. Vance’s Political Career
As he joins Donald J. Trump’s presidential ticket, Mr. Vance is seeking to play down, and in some cases rewrite, his views.

J.D. Vance previously signed a letter asking the Justice Department to enforce the Comstock Act. He is now softening his language on abortion. Credit...Haiyun Jiang for The New York Times

July 17, 2024

Throughout his brief political career, Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio has been an unapologetic opponent of abortion rights, a view driven by his Catholic faith and one he has cited as a driving force in his agenda.
He has supported a federal abortion ban, opposed exceptions for rape and incest, said he wanted to protect life “from the date of conception” and frequently described himself as “100 percent pro-life.”
“I think two wrongs don’t make a right; at the end of day, we are talking about an unborn baby,” he told an Ohio radio host in September 2021 before Roe v. Wade was overturned in part by three Supreme Court justices appointed by the man who named him to the Republicans’ 2024 presidential ticket. “It’s not whether a woman should be forced to bring a child to term. It’s whether a child should be allowed to live.”

In January 2023, Mr. Vance signed a letter asking the Justice Department to enforce the Comstock Act, a long-dormant law from 1873, to ban the mailing of abortion medication. Such an action could significantly limit access to such medication, which accounts for a majority of abortions in the country.

“While the use of chemical abortion drugs may be legal in some states, and federal law does not currently explicitly prohibit the use of such drugs, federal law does prohibit the mailing or shipping of such items,” read the letter, which was signed by more than two dozen Republican lawmakers. “Despite attempts to downplay this action, the ‘mere mailing’ of these items is expressly what the law has prohibited for nearly 150 years.”

Enforcing the Comstock Act is included in a plan released by a coalition that has been drawing up America First-style policy plans, nicknamed Project 2025 — though the law is referred to only by the statute number. Mr. Vance has publicly praised those plans as containing “some good ideas,” even as former President Donald J. Trump has tried to distance himself from the effort.
Now, as he joins Mr. Trump’s presidential ticket, Mr. Vance is seeking to play down — and in some cases rewrite — those views, saying he backs Mr. Trump’s support for “reasonable exceptions” and for allowing states to decide their own limits on abortion.
“My view is that Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party, and his views on abortion are going to be the views that dominate this party and drive this party forward,” Mr. Vance said on Monday in an interview on Fox News, after he was named to the ticket. “You have to believe in reasonable exceptions because that’s where the American people are. And you’ve got to let individual states make this decision.”
His current position is a clear softening for a candidate who once described staunch opposition to abortion as one of the most crucial litmus tests for conservatives.

Since entering politics in 2022, with his run for a Senate seat in Ohio, Mr. Vance has cast himself as a fierce opponent of abortion rights, supporting a Texas law that made abortion functionally illegal in the state and that authorizes residents to enforce the ban. The 2021 law transformed Texas, criminalizing abortion before the Supreme Court overturned the right nationwide.

“I think one of the most important issues for the conservative movement is the right to life,” Mr. Vance told a crowd gathered for a campaign town-hall-style meeting in February 2022. “If you’re not willing to stand on that issue, I think it indicates your character is weak and you don’t have the fortitude to actually serve the interest of our voters.”
He carried those beliefs into the Senate, where he has voted against protecting the right to fertility treatments like I.V.F. He has also opposed judicial nominees with a history of supporting abortion rights and legislation that expressed support for protecting access to abortion.
Mr. Vance has urged Republicans to be not just anti-abortion but “pro-baby and pro-family and pro-people who are raising our families.”
He has cast Democrats as extreme on the issue, saying that the party supports abortion until birth. Abortions so late in pregnancy are very rare, making up less than 1 percent of all procedures. Most Democrats say the issue should be left for women and their doctors to decide.

President Biden’s campaign sees fresh opportunities in Mr. Vance’s past statements. On Wednesday evening, it plans to release an advertisement featuring Hadley Duvall, a Kentucky abortion rights activist who says she was raped by her stepfather as a girl.
Mr. Vance is fluent in the language of the anti-abortion movement, attacking what followers often call the “abortion lobby” and likening abortion rights to American slavery.
“There’s something comparable between abortion and slavery,” Mr. Vance said, “and that while the people who obviously suffer the most are those subjected to it, I think it has this morally distorting effect on the entire society.”
Mr. Vance was so outspoken in his anti-abortion views that he won a 100 percent rating from Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America, a prominent anti-abortion political organization.
“J.D. Vance is an exceptional selection as President Trump’s running mate,” said Marjorie Dannenfelser, the president of the group, who praised his “courage” in “exposing the Democrats’ agenda of abortion for any reason.”

Great, thank you.  OK, so he appeared to be solidly anti-abortion (pro-life/abolitionist) before the campaign.  It does appear as if he is softening his views during the campaign/since he's been named on the ticket:

“My view is that Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party, and his views on abortion are going to be the views that dominate this party and drive this party forward,” Mr. Vance said on Monday in an interview on Fox News, after he was named to the ticket. “You have to believe in reasonable exceptions because that’s where the American people are. And you’ve got to let individual states make this decision.”

So, I think we're left with wondering whether this is a faux/temporary change to get elected (ie. "because that's where the American people are").

Another thought occurred to me. If Trump gets in but continues to flip-flop or be liberal on abortion, God may even strike Trump dead e.g. in 2025 or allow an assassination attempt on him to succeed. In that case, Vance would take over immediately, implement Project 2025 (he has praised it) and fight abortionist terrorism (that's what it is) by every legal means possible with a goal toward its ultimate abolition.

Project 2025 is a Christian nationalist platform. Wiki: "Critics have characterized Project 2025 as an authoritarian, Christian nationalist plan to steer the U.S. toward autocracy.[11][13][14][15] Legal experts have said it would undermine the rule of law,[16] separation of powers,[5] separation of church and state,[17] and civil liberties.[5][16][18]". Vance has repeatedly expressed his support of the proposal. Trump is a little lukewarm but mostly only to get the necessary votes to be elected. Vance is a Christian nationalist pro-lifer who rejects separation of Church and State. Traditional Catholics of course know that separation of Church and State is an error condemned by Pius IX.