Author Topic: ivanka dumps lewendowski (Read 3916 times)

PG · « **on:** June 20, 2016, 01:35:33 PM »

https://www.rt.com/usa/347525-corey-lewandowski-removed-trump/

I cannot help but feel bad about this. The original campaign manager for trump parts with the campaign after word is that ivanka told her dad she cannot help out if he is involved. Ivanka(the Jєωess) demands the head of lewendowski(the catholic). I had heard alex jones complaining about lewendowski. But, I personally thought lewendoski was an asset. He gave great interviews, and respectfully dominated the media.

There were complaints that manifort was butting heads with lewendowski. But, manifort was only brought in to deal with the cleveland delegate mess. And, that is good. But, that was an isolated incident. And, that doesn't mean that manifort can or should advise trump in the actual politics. Which, is constantly changing. And, I think that is where lewendowski came in. He really struck me as the type of person with a brain. But, we will see. This is only a hunch.

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2016, 04:46:57 PM »

Wait, are we making this about religion now? I'm confused.

PG · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2016, 05:26:42 PM »

In lewendowski's contract, it states that if removed, he cannot criticize the campaign unless criticized first. And, there was a lower member of trumps campaign who tweeted "ding dong the witch is dead" when lewendowski was removed. So, he technically could. But, I don't think should. And, it is understandable that you have divisions with a man like trump with a campaign like this. But, it seems to me that the real problem in the group are people tweeting like that. Trump cannot get rid of his daughter, who is really just a front(for trump and against trump) for the liberal Jєωιѕн agenda in the campaign. But, loud mouth rude people tweeting that the campaign manager is a witch can and should be. That is most likely the problem. I suspect lewendowski really is a good guy.

The two things that I hear are issues in the campaign are lack of finances/donations, and not pivoting towards being presidential. And, being presidential just means being politically correct, and that is a death wish. But, as for donations. I must say, all you have to do is ask. And, I have never once heard trump ask for donations from the people. And, that is actually a sign of pride. But, he has to. Because, campaigns need money. So, either trump humbles himself and asks for money from the populace, or sells out to corporate and wall street money. There is an in between if you are a billionaire. But, trump said he doesn't want to have to sell one of his hotels in order to finance his "self funded" campaign. I don't think this is an issue with lewendowski. This is a problem with trump.

Recall, trumps daughter ivanka(Jєω) and son eric(married to a Jєω) both ironically were unable to vote for their father in the primary because they forgot to register in time. Which, is a sign of things to come. And, that is probably the problem in the campaign. I think it is a question of loyalty.

If trump cannot manage his campaign, how can he manage the white house. Lewendowski was very respectful when interviewed by reporters, which tells me he is not really the guilty party.

qeddeq · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2016, 09:02:21 PM »

Quote from: PG

In lewendowski's contract, it states that if removed, he cannot criticize the campaign unless criticized first. And, there was a lower member of trumps campaign who tweeted "ding dong the witch is dead" when lewendowski was removed. So, he technically could. But, I don't think should. And, it is understandable that you have divisions with a man like trump with a campaign like this. But, it seems to me that the real problem in the group are people tweeting like that. Trump cannot get rid of his daughter, who is really just a front(for trump and against trump) for the liberal Jєωιѕн agenda in the campaign. But, loud mouth rude people tweeting that the campaign manager is a witch can and should be. That is most likely the problem. I suspect lewendowski really is a good guy.

The two things that I hear are issues in the campaign are lack of finances/donations, and not pivoting towards being presidential. And, being presidential just means being politically correct, and that is a death wish. But, as for donations. I must say, all you have to do is ask. And, I have never once heard trump ask for donations from the people. And, that is actually a sign of pride. But, he has to. Because, campaigns need money. So, either trump humbles himself and asks for money from the populace, or sells out to corporate and wall street money. There is an in between if you are a billionaire. But, trump said he doesn't want to have to sell one of his hotels in order to finance his "self funded" campaign. I don't think this is an issue with lewendowski. This is a problem with trump.

Recall, trumps daughter ivanka(Jєω) and son eric(married to a Jєω) both ironically were unable to vote for their father in the primary because they forgot to register in time. Which, is a sign of things to come. And, that is probably the problem in the campaign. I think it is a question of loyalty.

If trump cannot manage his campaign, how can he manage the white house. Lewendowski was very respectful when interviewed by reporters, which tells me he is not really the guilty party.

yes Ivanka married a Jєω, and did convert to judaism. According to a politico article I saw today the driving force was Ivanka and her husband, who were clashing with the former campaign manager. It may be true. However, you know that when a campaign needs a kickstart or a change, someone's head is coming off.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2016, 11:15:30 PM »

I read that Trump had his weekly meeting at Trump Tower and asked Lewendowski whether he had any ideas on how to reinvigorate the campaign, to which Lewendowski's only response was for Trump to announce his VP pick. Trump supposedly didn't like that answer because the VP pick is the only real drama left. In other words, Lewendowski had no answers, which is very bad for a campaign manager. Trump didn't get to where he is by pussyfooting around. When your campaign manager has no answers, his head is gonna roll. And please leave religion out of this; we're not electing a president of the local KofC. We need to someone to fix this damned mess, and that person ain't Shillary.

PG · « **Reply #5 on:** June 21, 2016, 12:27:10 AM »

charlemagne - that isn't the news that i heard. And, I have been tuning in all day. I heard that lewendowski was trying to derail jared kushner from having too much influence on mr trump. And, I heard that ivanka didn't like lewendowski for various reasons(michele fields bit). But, I have not heard anything remotely close to what you just said. So, I will doubt it. And, as for shillary, apparently wall street has sent hillary a very clear message: "if you pick warren for vp, we will stop giving you money". Wall street doesn't like warren. So, perhaps if she gets picked, hillary won't be so bad. Either way, I heard that lewendowski was having to leak news about and work around the kushners. That is what I have been told was the deal breaker. And, that is bad news. Because, I don't want that influence on trump.

And, what good does ivanka even do. The israelis don't trust her, so that is a fail. We need a strongman in the white house, not a princess's daddy.

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #6 on:** June 21, 2016, 12:28:16 AM »

Quote from: Charlemagne

I read that Trump had his weekly meeting at Trump Tower and asked Lewendowski whether he had any ideas on how to reinvigorate the campaign, to which Lewendowski's only response was for Trump to announce his VP pick. Trump supposedly didn't like that answer because the VP pick is the only real drama left. In other words, Lewendowski had no answers, which is very bad for a campaign manager. Trump didn't get to where he is by pussyfooting around. When your campaign manager has no answers, his head is gonna roll. And please leave religion out of this; we're not electing a president of the local KofC. We need to someone to fix this damned mess, and that person ain't Shillary.

Hillary is who you vote for if you want a 3rd term of Obama - corporate Wall Street politics masked as doing good. For the first time in my life, I may actually vote third party.

monka966 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 21, 2016, 08:06:31 AM »

An interesting excerpt from Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Kushner) pertaining to Mr. Kushner's academic credentials, and I quote:

"Kushner was raised in an Orthodox Jєωιѕн family in New Jersey. He graduated from the Frisch School, a private, coed yeshiva high school in Paramus, New Jersey, and from Harvard College in 2003 with an A.B. in sociology. According to journalist Daniel Golden, Kushner and his brother Joshua Kushner were admitted despite modest academic credentials after their father had made a $2.5 million donation to the university, with the director of the school's college preparatory program describing Jared Kushner's admission to be 'an unusual choice for Harvard to make' given that he was 'not anywhere near the top of his class.'"

Charlemagne · « **Reply #8 on:** June 21, 2016, 10:30:44 AM »

Quote from: PG

charlemagne - that isn't the news that i heard. And, I have been tuning in all day. I heard that lewendowski was trying to derail jared kushner from having too much influence on mr trump. And, I heard that ivanka didn't like lewendowski for various reasons(michele fields bit). But, I have not heard anything remotely close to what you just said. So, I will doubt it. And, as for shillary, apparently wall street has sent hillary a very clear message: "if you pick warren for vp, we will stop giving you money". Wall street doesn't like warren. So, perhaps if she gets picked, hillary won't be so bad. Either way, I heard that lewendowski was having to leak news about and work around the kushners. That is what I have been told was the deal breaker. And, that is bad news. Because, I don't want that influence on trump.

And, what good does ivanka even do. The israelis don't trust her, so that is a fail. We need a strongman in the white house, not a princess's daddy.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/20/lewandowski-escorted-trump-tower-trump-campaign/

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2016, 05:52:04 PM »

Quote from: monka966

An interesting excerpt from Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Kushner) pertaining to Mr. Kushner's academic credentials, and I quote:

"Kushner was raised in an Orthodox Jєωιѕн family in New Jersey. He graduated from the Frisch School, a private, coed yeshiva high school in Paramus, New Jersey, and from Harvard College in 2003 with an A.B. in sociology. According to journalist Daniel Golden, Kushner and his brother Joshua Kushner were admitted despite modest academic credentials after their father had made a $2.5 million donation to the university, with the director of the school's college preparatory program describing Jared Kushner's admission to be 'an unusual choice for Harvard to make' given that he was 'not anywhere near the top of his class.'"

And? That's fairly common for elite schools like Harvard that are pretty much all just 98% old money, 2% actual merit. How else do you think Bush graduated from Yale?

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #10 on:** June 21, 2016, 09:48:22 PM »

A peculiar tidbit about the Jєω Jared Kushner (husband of Trump's daughter, Ivanka) is his company, Kushner Properties, owns 666 Fifth Avenue, the highest price ever paid for an individual building in Manhattan. Yes, the name of the building and the address is 666 Fifth Avenue.

PG · « **Reply #11 on:** June 21, 2016, 10:41:18 PM »

Trump has finally decided to ask for money from his base. And, he considers this a historic moment. The attraction is that he will for 48 hours match donations up to 2 million dollars(historic?). That means, he will not end up paying more than 2 million dollars. So, we can donate as little as $1 and as much as $2700. With a 12 million person voter base, how much do you think he will rake in?

I ask this because it seems 2 million would be like peanuts compared to what he could rake in. 15-25 million of his primary money was paid for by donations, but he did not mention us at all. Anderson cooper called him out on it, but he did not think it important. So, I am just thinking, is he only willing to match this 2 million in order to give him a reason to say that he is still "self funding" or self matching? When, with a 12 million person base, 2 million is nothing. Why even "match" at all? Why match when he can just write a check for 2 million if need be? Why not give us the chance to fund his campaign? It has been economical so far.

And, I don't know why he has lowered his goal of 1 billion dollars. with a 12 million base, all we would have to do is donate $100 each. That is not much for better trade deals and all the other things he promises. Why lower it, and why has he waited so long to ask for money? I have been waiting for him to ask for money for the longest time. But, he hasn't humbled himself. And, matching it 2 million doesn't quite qualify when he didn't acknowledge the previous 15-25 million donated. I am suspicious. I am suspicious of trumps "pivot". If trump needs money so bad in order to win, then trump needs to ask and then give credit where it is due.

I am suspicious of trump since they fired lewendowski. I don't want ivanka or eric influencing him. Remember, they didn't vote for their father in the primary. They didn't cast that grain of incense.

PG · « **Reply #12 on:** June 21, 2016, 10:48:37 PM »

Ascent - i want ivanka shuffled off to some distant trump tower where she cannot do any damage to the campaign. You know, the damsel in distress.

Correction to my last post - trump will pay "no more" than 2 million overall.

PG · « **Reply #13 on:** June 22, 2016, 11:23:30 AM »

Here is another thing that is interesting. Some have said that the reason lewendowski was fired was because he suggested leaking the vp pick. But, to be honest, that is exactly what trump needed to do. When I think about it, that has been the decision maker/breaker for me. It is somewhat buried in my subconscious, but that is exactly what I have been waiting for. Who trump picks as vp will determine exactly who he will be as president. And, I want to know who he will be as president. Announcing it at the convention makes it too late for another to jump in the race if trump is a shill or sellout. We deserve to know before. We are not going to "pass the bill(trump), to find out what is in the bill(trump)".

Alex jones says trump is not an easter rabbit. But, maybe trump is. And, I am not going to follow his fluffy white tail to hell. I want to know exactly what trumps presidency will look like before I give him any money. And, by the looks of it, the rest of his supporters think it mandatory to know as well. Because, nobody is donating. He has no money.

I personally think he needs to sell one of his hotels in order to run his campaign. Because, his motto has always been "get it done, and don't spend a lot of money". But, in this campaign, he is not following that motto. He wants to build a giant wall($). Why not just put up a cost effective fence like ben carson posed to get the job done. He also wants to toy around in the middle east($). Why not just get the heck out of there? Trump is not being Trump. Trump is being trump. And, the lower case means that he is being run by his kids. He is fighting with one hand tied behind his back.

Lewendowski took the oust like an honorable man. And, manifort acted like a woman complaining to trumps kids threatening to not participate. Could he not go to trump to address his grievance? Manifort cannot handle trump. Lewendowski could. Trump is being run by his kids. It is ivanka for president.

PG · « **Reply #14 on:** June 22, 2016, 12:44:15 PM »

Clarification - in my last post, it sounded like I said firing lewendowski is what trump needed to do. No. What I meant is that trump needed to heed his advice and leak or announce his vp, not fire him. Lewendowski is a good guy.

Also, it is clear that trump is not yet committed to winning the presidency. 1/10th of the money trump spent in the primary was spent on himself. And, he also wrote a new book, and advertised his other book a whole lot. It was potentially a book/brand tour. An entire month now has passed with trump as the nominee, and trump has not attempted to raise serious money. Why?

The word is that big business donors say trump needs to put in at least 200 million of his own money into the general election in order for them to feel comfortable and confident that it is not a scam. And that makes sense. That way trump has skin in the game. Because, at this point, he does not. Trump talks about the 40-60 million spent so far. But, about half of that has been donated/spent on himself. All things considered, he is possible breaking even.

Now, with his first "historic" fundraiser, trump is only willing to to contribute 2 million dollars. That is not serious. I am sad to say it.

To top it all off, trump is keeping us in suspense about his vp pick. And, we need to know who the vp is.

I do not believe in passing a bill to find out what is in it.