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Re: Is it Morally Permissible To Vote During The Upcoming Election?
« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2020, 08:59:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on October 08, 2020, 08:39:04 PM
    So the US govt never funded GAVI before Trump was elected in 2016?  And Trump personally insisted that funding be added for GAVI or he wouldn't sign the bill?  I don't think you understand how the US political process works.  Trump doesn't get to sculpt the budget into his own likeness and image.  He has to work with Congress and the Senate.  For the last two years Congress was controlled by the Demonrats.  So his power to dictate the budget is limited.  It is a compromise.  If he doesn't compromise then he gets blamed for holding up the budget.  And then more Demonrats get elected.
    Obama funded the աօʀʟd ɦɛaʟtɦ օʀɢaռiʐatɨօռ promoting abortion and the population control agenda to the tune of 500 million dollars a year all in the name of health.  Suddenly, Trump says he doesn't support WHO, but sends WAY more money to GAVI.  GAVI is Bill Gates' plan to reduce world population worldwide.  Why do we even have to wonder what they are up to?    
    From their website (link below): Since 2007 GAVI has been funding new Health System Strengthening (HSS) programs that encourage and enable countries to identify infrastructure and resource weaknesses that are barriers to the achievement of immunisation and other public health goals. They ensure that trained professionals are given the tools they need to give proper care to those who need it the most.

    https://www.who.int/workforcealliance/about/en/

    The GAVI "alliance" is an octopus of companies that go way beyond vaccines to form a conglomeration of population control advocates in bed with the world banks.  The US is funding abortion through Trump and destroying lives overseas.  Overseas for now.  

         
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    Re: Is it Morally Permissible To Vote During The Upcoming Election?
    « Reply #46 on: October 08, 2020, 09:05:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on October 08, 2020, 08:52:20 PM
    Anyone who opposes Trump is in my mind immediately suspect of being a subversive cultural marxist.  He is the most anti-marxist president ever.  That's why the left hates him so much they have fallen into Trump Derangement Syndrome.  The left has become a coalition of feminists, sodomites, blacks, and immigrants who use identity politics and victim status to co-opt our traditional western values (Christendom).  Their goal is to seize control of all of our institutions and use them to advance their anti-christian (anti-Catholic really) agenda.  If you think funding for GAVI is bad now, just let Joe Biden get elected and see how much funding goes to GAVI then.  Let's see what happens when the Demonrats control both houses and the president.  Do you remember during Obama's terms how the FBI was using the Southern Poverty Law Center's hate list to classify traditional Catholics as a hate group?  If the Demonrats control everything, your chapel (if you are traditional Catholic, which I wonder about) will be a hate group center needing to be closed down by the govt authorities.  You'll be lucky if they don't throw you in jail.  On the upside, you will have plenty of time to wring your hands over GAVI funding.
    Sorry, this isn't about Democrats and Republicans, but about good vs. evil. Trumps activities prove he is not what you think.  He plays his cards well, and has fooled many people, but simple investigation of what is really going on will prove that this is a coup to destroy the country, make slaves of the people and bring population control and the NWO to the masses.  I'm fighting cultural Marxism with everything I've got.  Sadly, Trump is the enemy.   
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    Re: Is it Morally Permissible To Vote During The Upcoming Election?
    « Reply #47 on: October 08, 2020, 09:08:37 PM »
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    • Tradman, I guess you would prefer that funding go to the China-controlled WHO instead of the US-controlled GAVI?  Who's side are you on?  I agree with you that vaccines are generally evil, but at least Trump is intent on bringing things under control of the US govt.
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    « Reply #48 on: October 08, 2020, 09:21:13 PM »
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    • I'm sure there are many CIA assets in GAVI.  So that's how we control it.  Obviously, China controls the WHO.  Gates probably is being pushed out.  Even mainstream media is starting to cast Gates in a negative light.  So his influence will be waning.  If you want to assert that the US shouldn't be messing around with international health organizations, I would agree with that.  But that's not going to happen.  So it's a choice between a US-controlled org and a China-controlled org.
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    « Reply #49 on: October 08, 2020, 09:23:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on October 08, 2020, 09:08:37 PM
    Tradman, I guess you would prefer that funding go to the China-controlled WHO instead of the US-controlled GAVI?  Who's side are you on?  I agree with you that vaccines are generally evil, but at least Trump is intent on bringing things under control of the US govt.
    No, I don't want China or anyone to promote vaccines or birth control or abortion no matter who they are. Yet, the US is doing all those things with Trump's help.  This isn't so much about vaccines, but about Bill Gates hiding a bigger agenda under the guise of vaccines supposedly to fight Covid, when in reality, he's raking in BILLIONS from the US gov to promote population control and Trump is helping him. You can suggest what you want about me, but to avoid the obvious conclusion of what is happening merely proves that you haven't done your research.   
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    « Reply #50 on: October 08, 2020, 09:27:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on October 08, 2020, 09:21:13 PM
    I'm sure there are many CIA assets in GAVI.  So that's how we control it.  Obviously, China controls the WHO.  Gates probably is being pushed out.  Even mainstream media is starting to cast Gates in a negative light.  So his influence will be waning.  If you want to assert that the US shouldn't be messing around with international health organizations, I would agree with that.  But that's not going to happen.  So it's a choice between a US-controlled org and a China-controlled org.
    The former head of WHO left to help GAVI Alliance and has become the head of the "World Bank" and is working with GAVI in third world countries.  Does that set off any alarms for you?  I don't want Trump to be a bad guy.  But sadly, that is what is happening. 
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    « Reply #51 on: October 08, 2020, 09:29:01 PM »
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    • https://www.gavi.org/our-alliance/governance

    Does this help to see what is going on?  I have more, but it will take pages to post it all.  
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    « Reply #52 on: October 08, 2020, 09:31:04 PM »
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    • Gates is incompetent.  He got tossed out of Microsoft and now it is only a matter of time before he gets tossed out of his foundation.  He is a nerd/geek with social/mental problems and maybe a pervert too.  He's never going to be a Soros.  So if you have to choose between GAVI and WHO, choose GAVI.  At least the US has control of it. 
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    « Reply #53 on: October 08, 2020, 09:37:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on October 08, 2020, 09:31:04 PM
    Gates is incompetent.  He got tossed out of Microsoft and now it is only a matter of time before he gets tossed out of his foundation.  He is a nerd/geek with social/mental problems and maybe a pervert too.  He's never going to be a Soros.  So if you have to choose between GAVI and WHO, choose GAVI.  At least the US has control of it.
    GAVI IS WHO, just a different acronym.  Just like the US was behind 9/11, the same power brokers are destroying our country for monetary gain and control. All of these health organizations are funded to the gills by the US and all of them are about population control and abortion.  Gates, Soros, China, Trump, there are no good guys.        
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    « Reply #54 on: October 08, 2020, 09:37:25 PM »
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    • To try to cast Trump as a globalist is a joke.  He pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord as soon as he got in.  Globalists hate him.  Everything he does as far as foreign policy is concerned is designed to give the US and Israel more control.  He's never going to willingly give money to China or Russian-controlled orgs.

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    « Reply #55 on: October 08, 2020, 09:39:15 PM »
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    • Trump is a good guy.  You should consider that many on the left share your exact sentiments.  That should give you pause.
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    « Reply #56 on: October 08, 2020, 09:43:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on October 08, 2020, 09:31:04 PM
      So if you have to choose between GAVI and WHO, choose GAVI.  At least the US has control of it.
    If I were a US citizen, I would be ashamed to say that the US has control over it.
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    The Gavi Alliance has ... public charity status in the United States.
    Wow! public "charity" status!!!
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    « Reply #57 on: October 08, 2020, 09:50:37 PM »
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    • Even more shameful is the fact that the CDC and FDA and Fauci are taking orders from the China-controlled WHO.
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    « Reply #58 on: October 08, 2020, 09:53:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on October 08, 2020, 09:39:15 PM
    Trump is a good guy.  You should consider that many on the left share your exact sentiments.  That should give you pause.
    Satan is way more sophisticated in destroying the world than just resting on right/left politics.  I despise everything the left is about, but I cannot deny what is happening with the traitors on the right.  I appreciate that you stand for, truth, life, and the American way and I hope Trump is what he appears to be on the surface.  In any event, God has good things in store for those who love Him and that's really all we should hope to do.       
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    « Reply #59 on: October 08, 2020, 09:55:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on October 08, 2020, 09:37:25 PM
    Everything Trump does as far as foreign policy is concerned is designed to give the US and Israel more control.  
    Ah! the picture is coming clearer. I see men as trees walking. 
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