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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Is it Boeing or…
« Reply #60 on: May 23, 2024, 01:17:27 PM »
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  • Out of the frying pan, into the fire.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_Airbus_A320_family

    https://….com/en/2024/03/vietnam-airlines-grounds-12-airbus-a321-due-to-engine-problems.html

    https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/102182/scared-of-flying-in-an-airbus-a220

    https://goldenepaulettes.com/airbus-a320-common-problems-pilot-career

    c'est la vie… ou la mort…


    There are a few Embraer flights as well :-)

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    Re: Is it Boeing or…
    « Reply #61 on: May 23, 2024, 06:06:30 PM »
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  • c'est la vie… ou la mort…


    Oui... vraiment.

    It's why I haven't left the country in five years, and have only flown once in the same time period.  I've come to loathe air travel.  I'd rather drive.


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    Re: Is it Boeing or…
    « Reply #62 on: May 23, 2024, 09:23:16 PM »
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  • I used to watch this show about unexplained air disasters, and the bizarre ones always involved Airbus.  So at the time I said I'd never fly Airbus.  Now Boeing is off the table aslo, with your best bet being an older 737 or 747 ... except for the DEI maintenance crews.  Maybe a McDonald Douglas DC-10 or something, but there aren't many of those left, I think, and, if there are, they'd be pretty old.

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    Re: Is it Boeing or…
    « Reply #63 on: May 23, 2024, 09:29:32 PM »
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  • I looked up DC-10 crashes, and there were only like 3 or 4 that were related to maintenance issues, while about a half dozen due to pilot error in poor visibility conditions, and one terrorist attack (bomb on board).  Not bad.  There was one incident where about 2/3 of the passengers survived after the tail-mounted engine failed, but the pilot used some extremely innnovative techniques to bring the plane down.  He was ex-US Marines pilot, but I doubt that the moder DEI pilots could pull something like that off these days.

    I did look it up and DC-10s are no longer used for passenger service, only for some cargo planes.  They're really loud (I've been on some), but I'll take that given its overall safety record.

    When I get on a plane, this is the (type of) guy I want to see in the cockpit, an ex-US Marine pilot instructor, not some late 20s Person of Color or woman who mostly trained on a flight simulator ...

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    Re: Is it Boeing or…
    « Reply #64 on: May 23, 2024, 10:53:25 PM »
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  • Well… There's Embraer… in Brazil. :laugh2:


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    Re: Is it Boeing or…
    « Reply #65 on: June 02, 2024, 06:24:00 PM »
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  • Boeing’s Largest Factory in “Panic Mode,” Trying to Keep Employees Silent as They Duct Tape Jets Together
    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/boeings-largest-factory-in-panic-mode-trying-to-keep-employees-silent-as-they-duct-tape-jets-together/



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    Re: Is it Boeing or…
    « Reply #66 on: June 02, 2024, 07:36:27 PM »
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  • Boeing’s Largest Factory in “Panic Mode,” Trying to Keep Employees Silent as They Duct Tape Jets Together
    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/boeings-largest-factory-in-panic-mode-trying-to-keep-employees-silent-as-they-duct-tape-jets-together/

    The comment section on the Unz article is both lit :laugh1: and instructive ::), unlike the original Guardian article which, as expected, insinuates that all of Boeing's problems are due to union-busting. Sorry (no matter what Billy Bragg pathetically croons), a union workforce functions only if the persons unionized are able to function fully as individuals to begin with.

    After the mid-90s McD-D merger, the way that Boeing cut costs was through repeated early-retirement purges of its most competent senior mechanics and engineers. At the main Everett WA production site, these were detail-obsessed hyper-disciplined sons of Norskis and Svenskis, not subliterate whiners and shufflers. Too bad that their progeny squandered both prosperity and orderliness, preferring to be oh-so-cool grunge junkies and/or chaos-enabling democratic socialists.

    Perhaps another case study in the strong men/good times cycle, or otherwise perhaps just another exhibit in the current crash-and-burn trajectory (the latter not merely metaphoric for Boeing :facepalm:).
    Let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, all things pass away: God never changes. Patience obtains all things. He who has God finds he lacks nothing; God alone suffices. - St. Teresa of Jesus

    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Is it Boeing or…
    « Reply #67 on: June 06, 2024, 04:18:57 PM »
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  • Not Going Well: Boeing Starliner's Thrusters Failed On ISS Docking Approach 
    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/not-going-well-boeing-starliners-thrusters-failed-iss-docking-approach


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    Re: Is it Boeing or…
    « Reply #68 on: June 08, 2024, 10:46:22 AM »
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  • I used to watch this show about unexplained air disasters, and the bizarre ones always involved Airbus.  So at the time I said I'd never fly Airbus.  Now Boeing is off the table aslo, with your best bet being an older 737 or 747 ... except for the DEI maintenance crews.  Maybe a McDonald Douglas DC-10 or something, but there aren't many of those left, I think, and, if there are, they'd be pretty old.
    Yes, I wish there were still airlines flying McDonnell Douglas aircraft, those jets were tough. Delta and American retired their MD-80 a few years ago. Not we only have flimsily Boeing or Airbus (a.ka.a Scare-bus)


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    Re: Is it Boeing or…
    « Reply #70 on: June 08, 2024, 10:53:01 AM »
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  • I hear aire Lingus (Ireland ) is one of the best.  
    May God bless you and keep you


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    Re: Is it Boeing or…
    « Reply #71 on: June 08, 2024, 09:40:04 PM »
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    Re: Is it Boeing or…
    « Reply #72 on: June 14, 2024, 07:28:58 AM »
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  • If you participate in any FrequentFlyer programs, you probably get plenty of "New Routes Added" marketing. I found this one interesting because the AIRBUS addition to the DFW-Haneda routes was spotlighted.

    I suspect that website and financial analytics are so granular that JAL recognizes that some customers are gravitating to the few carriers who have non-Boeing craft on their trans-oceanic routes.

    Unfortunately JAL is only starting to offer AIRBUS on their DFW JL011/012 route and not yet on their LAX JL005/006 routes.

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    Re: Is it Boeing or…
    « Reply #74 on: June 14, 2024, 09:11:49 AM »
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  • You can be sure some Jews profited from the fraud.

    Counterfeit Titanium Found In Some Boeing And Airbus Jets
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/counterfeit-titanium-found-boeing-and-airbus-jets

    Boeing is no longer the pride of American aviation. The plane manufacturer is riddled with so many problems it's impossible to keep track. Yesterday, the FAA announced an investigation (yet another...) into a 737 Max 8 jet that encountered a dangerous mid-flight 'Dutch roll' several weeks ago. Now, a report from the New York Times reveals that some Boeing jets are built with 'counterfeit titanium.'
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    Some recently manufactured Boeing and Airbus jets have components made from titanium that was sold using fake docuмentation verifying the material's authenticity, according to a supplier for the plane makers, raising concerns about the structural integrity of those airliners.
    The falsified docuмents are being investigated by Spirit AeroSystems, which supplies fuselages for Boeing and wings for Airbus, as well as the Federal Aviation Administration. The investigation comes after a parts supplier found small holes in the material from corrosion. -NYT

    The report continued:



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    The planes that included components made with the material were built between 2019 and 2023, among them some Boeing 737 Max and 787 Dreamliner airliners as well as Airbus A220 jets, according to three people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. It is not clear how many of those planes are in service or which airlines own them.

    Fuselage maker Spirit is investigating the source of the titanium and whether the metal meets aviation standards. The big question is if the metal used in critical parts of the airframe is structurally sound enough to last the projected life spans of the jets. If the metal is tested and found to be below aviation specs, the parts must be removed and replaced.

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    "This is about docuмents that have been falsified, forged and counterfeited," Joe Buccino, a Spirit spokesman, told NYT, adding, "Once we realized the counterfeit titanium made its way into the supply chain, we immediately contained all suspected parts to determine the scope of the issues."

    According to Spirit officials, counterfeit titanium was used in passenger entry doors, cargo doors, and a component that connects the engines to the plane's airframe for 787 Dreamliners. The affected parts of the 737 Max and the Airbus A220 include a heat shield on the engine.



    NYT pointed out, "Boeing and Airbus both said their tests of affected materials so far had shown no signs of problems," adding, "Boeing said it directly purchased most of the titanium used in its plane production, so most of its supply was unaffected."

    Boeing released this statement:

    "This industrywide issue affects some shipments of titanium received by a limited set of suppliers, and tests performed to date have indicated that the correct titanium alloy was used.

    "To ensure compliance, we are removing any affected parts on airplanes prior to delivery. Our analysis shows the in-service fleet can continue to fly safely."

    A complex global supply chain for producing commercial jets is likely at fault. Late last year, a London-based firm flooded the aviation market with "unapproved parts" for jet engines on older Airbus SE A320s and Boeing Co. 737s.

    The counterfeit titanium issue first emerged in 2019:

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    The issue appears to date to 2019 when a Turkish material supplier, Turkish Aerospace Industries, purchased a batch of titanium from a supplier in China, according to the people familiar with the issue. The Turkish company then sold that titanium to several companies that make aircraft parts, and those parts made their way to Spirit, which used them in Boeing and Airbus planes.
    In December 2023, an Italian company that bought the titanium from Turkish Aerospace Industries noticed that the material looked different from what the company typically received. The company, Titanium International Group, also found that the certificates that came with the titanium seemed inauthentic.
    Turkish Aerospace Industries did not respond to a request for a comment.
    Spirit began investigating the matter, and the company notified Boeing and Airbus in January that it could not verify the source of the titanium used to make certain parts. Titanium International Group told Spirit that when it bought the material in 2019, it had no clue that the paperwork had been forged, according to Spirit officials.
    ... People familiar with the situation said it appeared that an employee at the Chinese company that sold the titanium had forged the details on the certificates, writing that the material came from another Chinese company, Baoji Titanium Industry, a firm that often supplies verified titanium. Baoji Titanium later confirmed that it had not supplied the titanium. The origin of the titanium remains unclear.
    This is yet another problem for the aviation industry and Boeing. Stories like these erode confidence in commercial air travel and raise the question: Has the FAA been asleep at the yoke?