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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: John Grace on April 17, 2013, 07:07:20 AM
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http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/thatcher-dubbed-all-irish-liars-mandelson-says-591567.html
Peter Mandelson said today that the only thing Margaret Thatcher ever told him was that the Irish were “all liars” and not to be trusted.
The Labour former cabinet minister revealed the 1999 exchange as he explained why he did not want to attend the former premier’s funeral service.
“I didn’t feel I knew her well enough” to apply for the tickets offered to peers, he told BBC Radio 4’s Today.
“Although I helped to organise the Labour Party’s opposition to her policies throughout the 1980s, I only ever met her once.
“It was the day I was appointed Northern Ireland secretary and our paths crossed.
“She came up to me and she said, ’I’ve got one thing to say to you, my boy … you can’t trust the Irish, they are all liars’, she said, ’liars, and that’s what you have to remember, so just don’t forget it’.
“With that she waltzed off and that was my only personal exposure to her.”
Lord Mandelson, one of the central architects of New Labour, has criticised the scale of the funeral but accepted the Iron Lady “reframed British politics”.
“I think what she was right to do was to bring home to us the reality that Britain could not afford rampant inflation, that state monopolies needed commercialising, that personal tax rates were too high and that enterprise was too unrewarding,” he said.
“She was also right to argue that deregulation can be a valuable spur to innovation and efficiency and of course she tackled what was then a very disruptive and irresponsible trade union culture.
“But the truth is also that in cutting back the state necessarily, she overlooked what the state can also do successfully.”
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Anti-Irish sentiment is quite common even among English Trads. Even Patricius, the owner of Ignis Ardens stated I wouldn't know the truth if it kicked me up the backside.
Then in London, the President of the League Kingship Christ stated to me, I would need to get subtitles for Br Columba Maria's talk. He is Irish.
Then you had a Patricia suggest Irish patriots 'supped with the devil'.
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I think it is a southern england mentality..... :cool:
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It's friendly banter on my part.
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Similarly, in Italy the northerners and southerners look warily at one another. Like my father used to say, there are no Italian's north of Rome. Lol. I guess you know where I am from! :incense:
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Oops. Didn't mean to have the emoticon incensing my last post. Lol.
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Are we sure the story about Margaret Thatcher is even true? The guy only met her once, and he's on an opposing party and this incendiary comment is the only comment she ever spoke to him?
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Are we sure the story about Margaret Thatcher is even true? The guy only met her once, and he's on an opposing party and this incendiary comment is the only comment she ever spoke to him?
Well, if Thatcher was correct, then the guy who claims to have met her was
a liar. But he's the one telling the story. So if he's a liar, how do we know
that Thatcher told him that? How do we know that she told him anything?
Or, is he the guy in the puzzle who tells a lie, then the truth, then a lie, then
the truth, and so on, never two lies in a row, etc.?
I've known several Irish who couldn't tell a lie if their life depended on it.
St. Patrick was Irish. He wasn't a liar, Margaret Thatcher.
Father Fahey was Irish. His truth may have been painful for the English to
hear, but it was still truth.
Maybe to Margaret Thatcher, something she didn't want to believe, to her,
she thought (subjectively!) must be a lie, and no doubt she heard a lot of
things from the Irish she didn't want to believe.
So there!
We ought to ask +W about this. This is his "cup of tea." No pun intended.
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Are we sure the story about Margaret Thatcher is even true? The guy only met her once, and he's on an opposing party and this incendiary comment is the only comment she ever spoke to him?
I don't know, but two things make sense to me.
1.She probably did say it, giving the snotty English brashness and arrogance.
2. There are more than their share of Irish liars out there.
The difference is, is that here on the other side of the pond they're called "politicians". :rolleyes:
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Anti-Irish sentiment is quite common even among English Trads. Even Patricius, the owner of Ignis Ardens stated I wouldn't know the truth if it kicked me up the backside.
Then in London, the President of the League Kingship Christ stated to me, I would need to get subtitles for Br Columba Maria's talk. He is Irish.
Then you had a Patricia suggest Irish patriots 'supped with the devil'.
Well, Patricius can kiss my green Irish....rosary. :really-mad2:
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And so can that hell-bound heretic Margaret Thatcher.
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I'd rather be a liar than a murderer. Erin Go Bragh!
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We ought to ask +W about this.
It wasn't about this issue but I listened to a lecture from him the other day where he was talking about how with modernism and liberalism men lose their minds and sometimes it's women who end up having more strength than men. He said something like she was the best man that England had at the time. He said what a good actress Mrs. Streep was in the movie about her.
I've heard from others she basically ignored funding for areas that would not bring her votes did a lot for the more conservative areas.
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Hello,
Margaret Thatcher is Rose Kennedy. She didn't have her brains pulled out of her nose.
http://www.wellaware1.com/artwork/small/Rosemary-Kennedy.jpg (http://www.wellaware1.com/artwork/small/Rosemary-Kennedy.jpg)
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George H.W Bush at his sisters funeral along with George G.W. Bush to see his Aunt Rose for the last time. Ha Ha
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Canada is celebrating 'Victoria Day' today. I'm still celebrating Penecost Sunday....No queenie is this house hold.....Ireland Forever indeed!
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Canada is celebrating 'Victoria Day' today. I'm still celebrating Penecost Sunday....No queenie is this house hold.....Ireland Forever indeed!
Canada. Interesting... Hmmm...
All of the Actors who are involved in this conspiracy against the United States are either Canadian or have an sworn allegiance to the British. They are enemies of our Republic and are trying to bring us back under the thumb of the Crown...
Joe Biden is Jimmy Page.
or the same Actor that plays Donald Trump on TV...
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Is it Winkler or McCain
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Harry Reid or A Kennedy
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Lord Who...
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Ron Paul ? Say it ain't so !
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Robin Bush NO! Hillary?
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The Brady Bunch HAHAHAHA
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What !?!?
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Oh.....my.....GOODNESS. Me thinks you have watched too many John Candy movies. ESPECIALLY the one called....Canadian Bacon...
...or should we talk about how your country was founded upon masonry? I have many American friends, but your logic is skewered.
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Oh.....my.....GOODNESS. Me thinks you have watched too many John Candy movies. ESPECIALLY the one called....Canadian Bacon...
...or should we talk about how your country was founded upon masonry? I have many American friends, but your logic is skewered.
One of the biggest hurdles for us Roman Catholics living in america. Admitting that our nation was founded by freemasonic heretics and enemies of Catholicism.
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Oh.....my.....GOODNESS. Me thinks you have watched too many John Candy movies. ESPECIALLY the one called....Canadian Bacon...
...or should we talk about how your country was founded upon masonry? I have many American friends, but your logic is skewered.
One of the biggest hurdles for us Roman Catholics living in america. Admitting that our nation was founded by freemasonic heretics and enemies of Catholicism.
I have a theory that Canada was ALSO founded upon masonry. No bƖσσdshɛd. We made a deal. However, Our constitution here guarantees a Catholic school system. To open that constitution requires a huge amount of debate, and referendum.
This priest sums it up well;
http://youtu.be/WvHJxd_8aQE