Author Topic: Illegal immigration (Read 2638 times)

tradlover · « **on:** April 08, 2011, 09:59:54 AM »

What are your thoughts on illegal immigraton to the US?

Raoul76 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 08, 2011, 12:42:55 PM »

My view is they are illegally-immigrating to the wrong place at the wrong time. It's like swimming miles off shore to be a stowaway on the Titanic.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #2 on:** April 08, 2011, 11:23:54 PM »

I agree with Raoul. And for the record, Obama is only trying to allow them here to get more votes this upcoming election.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #3 on:** April 08, 2011, 11:35:03 PM »

From what I hear from Hispanic activists, Obama has "betrayed" the "Latin community" by allowing an unnervingly high number of deportations, and by not making an effort to pass such measures as would benefit illegal immigrants. Like every serious politician and commentator, Obama must realize that the issue of illegal immigration is "political kryptonite." He would rather associate himself with "friendlier" and more "popular" agendae, such as "gαy rights" or "women's choice," etc.

Obama is out for himself alone, and those who serve his purposes. If the illegal immigrants do not serve his purposes, he will throw them away with soft-spoken lies and hypocrisies that make it look that it's the "evil, Mexican-hating Republicans" who are responsible for the rise of deportations.

Baskerville · « **Reply #4 on:** April 09, 2011, 10:56:58 AM »

Quote from: tradlover

What are your thoughts on illegal immigraton to the US?

If they ain't here legally they should be rounded up and deported.

Baskerville · « **Reply #5 on:** April 09, 2011, 10:57:53 AM »

Quote from: Hobbledehoy

From what I hear from Hispanic activists, Obama has "betrayed" the "Latin community" by allowing an unnervingly high number of deportations, and by not making an effort to pass such measures as would benefit illegal immigrants. Like every serious politician and commentator, Obama must realize that the issue of illegal immigration is "political kryptonite." He would rather associate himself with "friendlier" and more "popular" agendae, such as "gαy rights" or "women's choice," etc.

Obama is out for himself alone, and those who serve his purposes. If the illegal immigrants do not serve his purposes, he will throw them away with soft-spoken lies and hypocrisies that make it look that it's the "evil, Mexican-hating Republicans" who are responsible for the rise of deportations.

Exactly

Telesphorus · « **Reply #6 on:** April 09, 2011, 04:27:19 PM »

One thing that a lot of these immigration apologists forget: They generally aren't practicing Catholics.

They aren't making the country more Catholic.

(if they were priests like Mahoney would probably want to kick them out)

Darcy · « **Reply #7 on:** May 04, 2011, 10:39:32 PM »

Quote from: Hobbledehoy

From what I hear from Hispanic activists, Obama has "betrayed" the "Latin community" by allowing an unnervingly high number of deportations, and by not making an effort to pass such measures as would benefit illegal immigrants. Like every serious politician and commentator, Obama must realize that the issue of illegal immigration is "political kryptonite." He would rather associate himself with "friendlier" and more "popular" agendae, such as "gαy rights" or "women's choice," etc.

Obama is out for himself alone, and those who serve his purposes. If the illegal immigrants do not serve his purposes, he will throw them away with soft-spoken lies and hypocrisies that make it look that it's the "evil, Mexican-hating Republicans" who are responsible for the rise of deportations.

Obama does not make any decisions for himself. He is totally told what to say and do. That has always been the case. He was marked to be president very early on during university and maybe even sooner if it is true that his grandparents were communist activists and friends with Frank Marshall Davis. The grandchildren and gr-grandchildren of the communists that escaped communist Russia and Europe are running the show in most of the western world. Just fyi.

Many illegal immigrants are not even Mexican but from deeper in the jungles of Central America. Descendents of the Aztecs, the most brutal ethnic group of all ages, it has been told. Mexicans kill many of them on their journey north.
They bring with them a syncretic religion of Catholicism, voodoo, quetzalcoatl and santeria. It is all they can understand. They are being exploited by corporations wanting cheap labor and used by those 'elitists' who want to destroy Civilization (Catholicism).
The country could handle small numbers but this is a massive invasion by people who not only hate the United States but the people of it. It is sponsored by the government of the United States, so there is no chance that the trend will be slowed or reversed. It will just lead to much bloody violence and more Obamas elected.

please forgive me, Jesus if I am not speaking the truth.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #8 on:** May 05, 2011, 01:05:34 AM »

Quote from: Darcy

Obama does not make any decisions for himself. He is totally told what to say and do. That has always been the case. He was marked to be president very early on during university and maybe even sooner if it is true that his grandparents were communist activists and friends with Frank Marshall Davis. The grandchildren and gr-grandchildren of the communists that escaped communist Russia and Europe are running the show in most of the western world.

I agree with what you're trying to say, after all, in politics who isn't a harlot or a pawn?

However, though Barack is in many ways a tool [of Alinsky's political perversions], he is more dangerous than other tools in that he seems to have a way of consciously and cunningly manipulating cultural trends and current events in such a way as to favor his own agenda, and he does it with such brazen audacity, rank arrogance and hypocrisy, which he artfully disguises to the point of being idealized and adored by many, many idiots.

Look at what's happening right now! Regardless of whether or not Bin Laden is dead or has been for years or whatever, it is quite clear that he is using this as a means to save his beleaguered popularity rating and as means to gain the popularly sanctioned credibility (uh, "street cred," if you will) to bully his political opponents in assenting to his propositions and solicitations; not to mention its utility for him in next year's Presidential campaigns.

He represents a more overtly perverse trend in American political discourse: an artificially fabricated demagogue who meretriciously services the beast that brought him forth whilst manipulating it himself and bringing it closer to the fruition of its chicanery; all the while exalting himself as a hero and "inspiring" others to do the same.

He has managed to make the Constitution into his personal dishrag with the praise and approval of many, and those who protest, or at least attempt to establish an intelligent and open political discussion based on objective facts, are vilified and demonized with inflammatory word-games and libelous nonsense.

I believe Barack to be the greatest domestic threat the American Republic has faced, and the sad part is that most Americans do not even see it.

Post script: Yes, I know the Constitution is a docuмent fabricated by apostate deists and heretics, designed to overthrow the socio-political teachings of the Church.

s2srea · « **Reply #9 on:** May 05, 2011, 12:39:06 PM »

Darcy- I mostly agree with you. Most (not all) of the Latin American illegals who continue to cross the border aren't Mexican, but South And Central American. Yes, the majority aren't practicing catholics, and many subscribe and intertwine pagan beliefs and practices into their fake religion. I encourage you to ask why.

Mexicans do mistreat many of them (Southerners) on their way through Mexico- but its only a retaliation for the disrespect, destruction and horrors which many of them commit and leave in Mexico on their voyage through there. I believe you can ask any Mexican if they believe that there's a difference between themselves and South Americans and the answer would most likely be less. For as many atrocities some Mexicans (or more correctly American hired and equipped, narcos) commit, as a people, they seem to still be much more educated. And I believe that there are more practicing Catholics amongst Mexicans than their southern neighbors.

Last, but not least, I've seen a definate animosity felt towards anyone of color amongst many American Anglo's (even amongst trads), though I'm sure not without reason. However, I always find myself asking a simple question. If I were a man, raising the family I have now, in Mexico and was without work (through no fault of my own), living in a Free-masonic 'republic' which was controlled and exploited by its Free-masonic Northern neighbor, and could not find work or provide adequately for my family, would I give a rats rear what the laws in the other country were ?

Nope.

Darcy · « **Reply #10 on:** May 05, 2011, 12:58:45 PM »

I have also noticed that animosty against Anglos by people of color. Its too bad but it is out there.

s2srea · « **Reply #11 on:** May 05, 2011, 01:12:35 PM »

Quote from: Darcy

I have also noticed that animosty against Anglos by people of color. Its too bad but it is out there.

This is most likely true, but not to the degree which English speaking peoples seem to be ingrained with. In his book, Blood Drenched Alters, Francis Clement Kelley (who is a brit I believe) explains how those of English speaking countries have anti-Latin/Spanish tendencies ingrained in them from a young age. This isn't the case with Hispanics, in general. And if it is, its anti- Americanism not anti-White, in my experience.

Darcy · « **Reply #12 on:** May 05, 2011, 07:06:37 PM »

I wonder what the immigration laws are for Mexico.

Darcy · « **Reply #13 on:** May 05, 2011, 07:11:16 PM »

Quote from: s2srea

Quote from: Darcy
I have also noticed that animosty against Anglos by people of color. Its too bad but it is out there.

This is most likely true, but not to the degree which English speaking peoples seem to be ingrained with. In his book, Blood Drenched Alters, Francis Clement Kelley (who is a brit I believe) explains how those of English speaking countries have anti-Latin/Spanish tendencies ingrained in them from a young age. This isn't the case with Hispanics, in general. And if it is, its anti- Americanism not anti-White, in my experience.

The public schools in the American southwest are vehemently antigringo.