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  • http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/07/politics/donald-trump-syria-populist-support/index.html

    Consider me one of the ones who has jumped off the Trump Train -- if I was ever on it to begin with.

    Actually, I was always cautious. I was telling everyone on CathInfo to be cautious -- and what do you know? I was right. Again.

    For all we know, Trump is as batshit insane hawkish for WW3 as John McCain. So far, with only 3 months as president, he's done everything he can to start WW3.

    P.S. McCain is absolutely batshit insane. He really wants World War 3 with Russia. Keeping in mind the "official story" places Syria as the perpetrator of a chemical weapons attack on civilians, and we JUST BOMBED THEM, this CNN.com headline should scare everyone:

    "McCain: Russians as bad as Assad"

    So doing a bit of basic math, we should launch Tomahawk cruise missiles at Russia as well!

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    Offline Croix de Fer

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    Re: I told you so - Trump is as bad as ANY OF THEM including Obama
    « Reply #1 on: April 08, 2017, 12:05:11 AM »
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  • Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


    Offline Matthew

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    Re: I told you so - Trump is as bad as ANY OF THEM including Obama
    « Reply #2 on: April 08, 2017, 12:17:52 AM »
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  • Make that: as bad as any of them, including HILLARY CLINTON!

    Clinton Email: We Must Destroy Syria For Israel
     October 2, 2016 SatyaRaj
    (Choice & Truth) Clinton Email: We Must Destroy Syria For Israel: –

    A leaked Hillary Clinton email has now confirmed that the Obama administration, with Hillary directing policy, orchestrated a cινιℓ ωαr in Syria to benefit Israel’s geopolitical interests and stability. 

    The new Wikileaks release shows that Clinton, then Secretary of State orchestrated the war in Syria to overthrow the government of President Assad, because it is “best way to help Israel”.


    The docuмent was one of many unclassified by the US Department of State under case number F-2014-20439, Doc No. C05794498, following the uproar over Clinton’s private email server kept at her house while she served as Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013.

    Although the Wikileaks transcript dates the email as December 31, 2000, this is an error on their part, as the contents of the email (in particular the reference to May 2012 talks between Iran and the west over its nuclear program in Istanbul) show that the email was in fact sent on December 31, 2012.

    The email makes it clear that it has been US policy from the very beginning to violently overthrow the Syrian government—and specifically to do this because it is in Israel’s interests.


    “The best way to help Israel deal with Iran’s growing nuclear capability is to help the people of Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad,” Clinton forthrightly starts off by saying.

    Even though all US intelligence reports had long dismissed Iran’s “atom bomb” program as a hoax (a conclusion supported by the International Atomic Energy Agency), Clinton continues to use these lies to “justify” destroying Syria in the name of Israel.

    She specifically links Iran’s mythical atom bomb program to Syria because, she says, Iran’s “atom bomb” program threatens Israel’s “monopoly” on nuclear weapons in the Middle East.

    If Iran were to acquire a nuclear weapon, Clinton asserts, this would allow Syria (and other “adversaries of Israel” such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt) to “go nuclear as well,” all of which would threaten Israel’s interests.

    Therefore, Clinton, says, Syria has to be destroyed.

    Iran’s nuclear program and Syria’s cινιℓ ωαr may seem unconnected, but they are. What Israeli military leaders really worry about — but cannot talk about — is losing their nuclear monopoly.

    An Iranian nuclear weapons capability would not only end that nuclear monopoly but could also prompt other adversaries, like Saudi Arabia and Egypt, to go nuclear as well. The result would be a precarious nuclear balance in which Israel could not respond to provocations with conventional military strikes on Syria and Lebanon, as it can today.


    If Iran were to reach the threshold of a nuclear weapons state, Tehran would find it much easier to call on its allies in Syria and Hezbollah to strike Israel, knowing that its nuclear weapons would serve as a deterrent to Israel responding against Iran itself.

    It is, Clinton continues, the “strategic relationship between Iran and the regime of Bashar Assad in Syria” that makes it possible for Iran to undermine Israel’s security.

    This would not come about through a “direct attack,” Clinton admits, because “in the thirty years of hostility between Iran and Israel” this has never occurred, but through its alleged “proxies.”

    The end of the Assad regime would end this dangerous alliance. Israel’s leadership understands well why defeating Assad is now in its interests.


    Bringing down Assad would not only be a massive boon to Israel’s security, it would also ease Israel’s understandable fear of losing its nuclear monopoly.


    Then, Israel and the United States might be able to develop a common view of when the Iranian program is so dangerous that military action could be warranted.


    Clinton goes on to asset that directly threatening Bashar Assad “and his family” with violence is the “right thing” to do:

    In short, the White House can ease the tension that has developed with Israel over Iran by doing the right thing in Syria.

    With his life and his family at risk, only the threat or use of force will change the Syrian dictator Bashar Assad’s mind.


    The email proves—as if any more proof was needed—that the US government has been the main sponsor of the growth of terrorism in the Middle East, and all in order to “protect” Israel.

    It is also a sobering thought to consider that the “refugee” crisis which currently threatens to destroy Europe, was directly sparked off by this US government action as well, insofar as there are any genuine refugees fleeing the cινιℓ ωαr in Syria.

    In addition, over 250,000 people have been killed in the Syrian conflict, which has spread to Iraq—all thanks to Clinton and the Obama administration backing the “rebels” and stoking the fires of war in Syria.

    The real and disturbing possibility that a psychopath like Clinton—whose policy has inflicted death and misery upon millions of people—could become the next president of America is the most deeply shocking thought of all.

    Clinton’s public assertion that, if elected president, she would “take the relationship with Israel to the next level,” would definitively mark her, and Israel, as the enemy of not just some Arab states in the Middle East, but of all peace-loving people on earth.
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    Re: I told you so - Trump is as bad as ANY OF THEM including Obama
    « Reply #3 on: April 08, 2017, 12:44:06 AM »
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  • Here is a picture of John McCain:

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    Re: I told you so - Trump is as bad as ANY OF THEM including Obama
    « Reply #4 on: April 08, 2017, 09:23:55 AM »
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  • There is a reason why I hoped Catholics wouldn't vote for Trump. They are acting as if he's different somehow. Both (Hillary and Donald) of them are incredibly hawkish with Neocon Zionist tendencies. Both of them would get us into World War III very quickly.
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    Re: I told you so - Trump is as bad as ANY OF THEM including Obama
    « Reply #5 on: April 08, 2017, 09:31:21 AM »
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  • I supported Trump and was happy that he won. I did not follow him closely but I agreed with many of the things that he said during the campaign and thought it was good that the media seemed to hate him and I figured he must be better than Hillary. But now he is breaking his promises so there is no chance he will ever get re-elected if there are any more elections. He has betrayed his electorate completely. I will probably never vote again no matter what the candidates say during the campaign as I did not vote during the Obama elections.
    R.I.P.
    Please pray for the repose of my soul.

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    Re: I told you so - Trump is as bad as ANY OF THEM including Obama
    « Reply #6 on: April 08, 2017, 09:53:18 AM »
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  • Even this fictional news broadcast thinks Syria is a likely flashpoint, which could set us on a path to World War 3:



    How very realistic...
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    Re: I told you so - Trump is as bad as ANY OF THEM including Obama
    « Reply #7 on: April 08, 2017, 10:25:01 AM »
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  • I supported Trump and was happy that he won. I did not follow him closely but I agreed with many of the things that he said during the campaign and thought it was good that the media seemed to hate him and I figured he must be better than Hillary. But now he is breaking his promises so there is no chance he will ever get re-elected if there are any more elections. He has betrayed his electorate completely. I will probably never vote again no matter what the candidates say during the campaign as I did not vote during the Obama elections.
    I agree. It's time for an independent candidate. With both of them being incompetent, a figure like Evan McMullin in the last election could actually do quite well.
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    Re: I told you so - Trump is as bad as ANY OF THEM including Obama
    « Reply #8 on: April 08, 2017, 12:40:39 PM »
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  • I agree. It's time for an independent candidate. With both of them being incompetent, a figure like Evan McMullin in the last election could actually do quite well.
    Evan McMullin is not "independent."
    He's CIA and Mormon and was funded by NeverTrump Kristol-Romney-McCain's "McCain Institute" slush fund. That guy was as "establishment Republican" as you could POSSIBLY get.

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    Re: I told you so - Trump is as bad as ANY OF THEM including Obama
    « Reply #9 on: April 08, 2017, 04:31:18 PM »
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  • P.S. McCain is absolutely batshit insane. He really wants World War 3 with Russia. Keeping in mind the "official story" places Syria as the perpetrator of a chemical weapons attack on civilians, and we JUST BOMBED THEM, this CNN.com headline should scare everyone:



    So doing a bit of basic math, we should launch Tomahawk cruise missiles at Russia as well!
    I think this is a little over the line.
    but that said... I would still like to know: WHY would Assad gas his own people, esp children?
    What is in it for him to DO such a thing?
    oh, like he wants to get the whole world against him?
    you are right to imply (or i believe you imply)  that there is something that is not being told us...

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    Re: I told you so - Trump is as bad as ANY OF THEM including Obama
    « Reply #10 on: April 10, 2017, 12:31:07 AM »
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  • Even this fictional news broadcast thinks Syria is a likely flashpoint, which could set us on a path to World War 3:



    How very realistic...
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    That video is an act of terrorism.
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    The makers should be given an award, like the California teacher who was video recorded saying that Trump's election was an act of terrorism, so she was given the Most Valuable Faculty Member award for the year.
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    Re: I told you so - Trump is as bad as ANY OF THEM including Obama
    « Reply #11 on: April 10, 2017, 12:57:29 AM »
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  • This thread deserves more attention. It was so obvious that Trump and Hillary were playing good cop/bad cop during the elections. Trump is one of the most wealthy men in the world.  What's the chances he honestly gave a rat's rump about Christians?  The elite played everyone like a fiddle.  Hillary was the electric chair but Trump is going to be the lethal injection.  Either way, we carry on to the restoration--for those who make it out alive.  Viva Christo Rey!    

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    Re: I told you so - Trump is as bad as ANY OF THEM including Obama
    « Reply #12 on: April 12, 2017, 09:33:14 AM »
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  • This is really sad/pathetic.  Trump is digging himself in deeper and deeper.  He calls Assad an animal and evil, but Netanyahu, of course, is his good buddy.  Really tells you where his priorities are.  As for General Mattis, I think Generals Douglas MacArthur (one Medal of Honor), George Patton, and Smedley Butler (2 Medals of Honor) would have all held him in contempt.  Butler wrote the famous tract War is a Racket.
    https://www.rt.com/usa/384455-trump-assad-animal-syria/

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    « Reply #13 on: April 12, 2017, 10:42:44 AM »
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  • Includes excellent discussion of Trump's attack on Syria, his daughter, his son-in-law and more: http://www.christorchaos.com/?q=content/jerusalem-belongs-christ-king-and-his-true-church-part-two

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    Re: I told you so - Trump is as bad as ANY OF THEM including Obama
    « Reply #14 on: April 12, 2017, 09:00:41 PM »
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  • The Jєωs run the world,Syria was one of the 7 countries on the hit list. If Trump wouldn't play ball he would just get whacked. Nevertheless concerning issues within the U.S he was a much better choice than Hillary, the divide concerning what they stood for was huge. Not sure how much that is worth seeing that we're on the brink of WW3. I'm off the bandwagon as well