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Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Marlelar on August 07, 2015, 12:21:59 PM
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The International Rescue Committee, whose top executive is former British Foreign Secretary David Miliband, also resettles refugees in Idaho.

Miliband recently wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post saying the U.S. needed to take in at least 65,000 Syrian refugees to fulfill its “duty” as the world’s largest haven for the displaced.


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/hundreds-of-muslim-refugees-headed-to-idaho/#TbfEfA433gJgIXCi.99


Just continue to dilute the culture with people who do not share western values.

MN already has a huge problem with refugees, next comes the American Redoubt.

This is another demonstration that America is no longer a sovereign nation; an independent body such as the UN has required us to take in tens of thousands of people who have beliefs and practices antithetical to our own and it will only lead to more strife.


Title: How to destroy America
Post by: MrYeZe on August 07, 2015, 02:15:24 PM
America is the biggest exporter of secularism, sin, degeneration, fαɢɢօtry, abortion, ect. in the world. If they can't make a conservative country embrace these values through funding terrorist organizations to destabilize them, they just outright invade and force it on the populace.

Even though I live in America, and I say, good riddance.  Dilute the world police state of the secularist so that the true faith may thrive elseware in the world.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Nadir on August 07, 2015, 04:46:48 PM
How do you define western values?

I agree that  America is no longer a sovereign nation. America does the will of Israel. It has been destroying what are sovereign nations for so long and seems to believe it has a right to! So if it boomerangs, well ...  What did you expect?

And it must bear some responsibility for the damage it has done to other sovereign nations. I'm not approving of mass immigration but the whole idea is to destabilize these nations. It's all part of the plan.

Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 07, 2015, 05:44:02 PM
Quote from: Marlelar
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The International Rescue Committee, whose top executive is former British Foreign Secretary David Miliband, also resettles refugees in Idaho.

Miliband recently wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post saying the U.S. needed to take in at least 65,000 Syrian refugees to fulfill its “duty” as the world’s largest haven for the displaced.


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/hundreds-of-muslim-refugees-headed-to-idaho/#TbfEfA433gJgIXCi.99


Just continue to dilute the culture with people who do not share western values.

MN already has a huge problem with refugees, next comes the American Redoubt.

This is another demonstration that America is no longer a sovereign nation; an independent body such as the UN has required us to take in tens of thousands of people who have beliefs and practices antithetical to our own and it will only lead to more strife.




And TRUMP is worried about Mexicans.  He should be more worried about these illegal aliens.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 07, 2015, 05:45:49 PM
Quote from: Nadir
How do you define western values?

I agree that  America is no longer a sovereign nation. America does the will of Israel. It has been destroying what are sovereign nations for so long and seems to believe it has a right to! So if it boomerangs, well ...  What did you expect?

And it must bear some responsibility for the damage it has done to other sovereign nations. I'm not approving of mass immigration but the whole idea is to destabilize these nations. It's all part of the plan.



England and France had sold out long before USA.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: MrYeZe on August 07, 2015, 06:18:19 PM
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
Quote from: Nadir
How do you define western values?

I agree that  America is no longer a sovereign nation. America does the will of Israel. It has been destroying what are sovereign nations for so long and seems to believe it has a right to! So if it boomerangs, well ...  What did you expect?

And it must bear some responsibility for the damage it has done to other sovereign nations. I'm not approving of mass immigration but the whole idea is to destabilize these nations. It's all part of the plan.



England and France had sold out long before USA.


Of course they did. After all, Israel needed the US to remain non-degenerate enough to crush everything that went against it's subversion of the world, at least until they don't need it anymore.  I guess that time's coming soon.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Nadir on August 07, 2015, 07:38:34 PM
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
Quote from: Nadir
How do you define western values?

I agree that  America is no longer a sovereign nation. America does the will of Israel. It has been destroying what are sovereign nations for so long and seems to believe it has a right to! So if it boomerangs, well ...  What did you expect?

And it must bear some responsibility for the damage it has done to other sovereign nations. I'm not approving of mass immigration but the whole idea is to destabilize these nations. It's all part of the plan.



England and France had sold out long before USA.


That's a bit like saying "the devil made me do it."
What relevance has your comment to the thread or to my comment?
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Marlelar on August 07, 2015, 07:49:40 PM
I think it is a scourge from God.  Like Europe we have sold out to every group of degenerates there are.  But I love my country (although I hate the government) and grieve for what is ahead.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on August 07, 2015, 08:38:24 PM
To bring in all these immigrants. Where are all the JOBS. Unless they
are taken away from native born Americans.
The obvious motives is the planned destabilization of the country.  
It seems that from last night debates on Fox News, the question
was not even asked.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Nadir on August 08, 2015, 01:00:52 AM
Quote from: Marlelar
I think it is a scourge from God.  Like Europe we have sold out to every group of degenerates there are.  But I love my country (although I hate the government) and grieve for what is ahead.


A scourge or a challenge? It is not a plague of rats or grasshoppers who are the subject of the word scourge, but fellow suffering humanity. It is a chance to make reparation for the disaster America has inflicted on these family-loving people. America may even have something to learn from them.

These people are pawns in the hands of the powers who wish to turn the whole world into a blood-bath and set peoples against each other. Do not fall into the trap of the war-mongers, and co-operate with them by despising their victims. One day we will all be their victims. Syrians today, Americans tomorrow, Australians after that.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Marlelar on August 08, 2015, 12:30:27 PM
I think they should stay in their own countries and fight for their own freedoms, or whatever it is that they want.  I do not welcome waves of so-called "refugees".

I do not believe that thousands of "refugees" cannot be marshaled into an effective army in their own country to fight their opposition.  Five or ten or a hundred, true they would have no chance, but the 25,000 Somalis that are in MN could certainly have had a chance to change their own country.

65,000 Syrians are coming to America, that is the size of an army, they certainly can fight in their own country.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Catholic Samurai on August 08, 2015, 03:16:53 PM
Quote from: Marlelar
I think they should stay in their own countries and fight for their own freedoms, or whatever it is that they want.  I do not welcome waves of so-called "refugees".

I do not believe that thousands of "refugees" cannot be marshaled into an effective army in their own country to fight their opposition.  Five or ten or a hundred, true they would have no chance, but the 25,000 Somalis that are in MN could certainly have had a chance to change their own country.

65,000 Syrians are coming to America, that is the size of an army, they certainly can fight in their own country.


That's easy for you to say. Being an American you've never experienced the terrors of war on your own soil, nevermind your home town. I doubt you would stand your ground and pretend your Rambo while bombs are raining down on you. Like most humans you'd follow your base instincts and run. Besides, these people likely didn't even have weapons or the means to procure and train with them.  And how many of these are women, children, and elderly? Army my ass...

 I'm not thrilled either about having to resettle massive numbers of people, it's never pleasant business, and the government will of course make a mess of this for their own ends, but don't blame these people. Someone threw them a rope and they grabbed it.

Besides... 2 generations from now they'll be espousing all the so called "western values" you and your neighbors love so much, word for word, like every other immigrant family eventually does.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Nadir on August 08, 2015, 04:40:00 PM
Quote from: Marlelar
I think they should stay in their own countries


You can be sure that they think that murdering American mercenaries had stayed in their own country too!

You can be sure that they would have preferred to be in their own homes and fight for enjoy their own freedoms, or whatever it is that they want.

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I do not welcome waves of so-called "refugees".

That is a loss for you in the long run - read Matthew 25:31-46:
 
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[31]And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty.  [32]And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: [33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. [34] Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. [35] For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:

[36] Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. [37] Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? [38] And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? [39] Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? [40] And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

[41] Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. [42] For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. [43] I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. [44] Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? [45] Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.

[46] And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.


They wouldn't have any need to come if it weren't for America killing people who are (or were) no threat to America, destroying their homes, breaking up their families, destroying the infrastructure of the sovereign nation.

America has worked hard to attain the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr and has now got it.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Marlelar on August 08, 2015, 08:00:57 PM
I absolutely agree that the American government has caused many of these problems overseas because of their interventionist agenda, along with other western globalists; their behavior is despicable.  I wish we would just butt out of the "world's" business, but I don't think that will ever happen.

And unlike what some believe, one, two, or three generations from now Muslims will NOT be espousing western values or even think of themselves as "American".  I live with groups whose families have been in the US generation after generation and yet they do not think of themselves as American and I daresay people in Germany or France or Sweden can say the same.

I live, surrounded by 4th generation "Mexicans" who think of themselves as MEXicans not AMERicans, not even their great-great-grandfathers were born in Mexico,  I also live surrounded by blacks who think they are AFRicans, not Americans and again not even their great-great grandfather came from Africa.

It's all well and good to listen to liberal clap-trap about the melting-pot, but we actually live in what is more like a toss-salad, each group retaining it's own culture, language, and values.

What I do know for sure is that until we live under Christ the King, all of these different groups will never live in peace.

Title: How to destroy America
Post by: MrYeZe on August 08, 2015, 08:35:51 PM
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I absolutely agree that the American government has caused many of these problems overseas because of their interventionist agenda, along with other western globalists; their behavior is despicable. I wish we would just butt out of the "world's" business, but I don't think that will ever happen.


They hate God, and love godless doctrines such as secularism, and universal "human rights" including freedom of religion, democracy ect. and will actively destabilize, αssαssιnαtҽ, and invade, any regime or country that refuses to follow such ideals, while claiming to espouse freedom and tolerance.  I don't think 'interventionist' is the right word to describe the UN and NATO. 'Evil Empire' is more accurate.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Marlelar on August 09, 2015, 02:05:17 AM
But it is not just the US that does despicable things.  I think that all of the "major" powers such as Russia, China, US, England, Germany, et al engage in actions to destabilize smaller nations, probably at the behest of the world bankers.

I haven't heard of Somalis or Syrians being resettled in Russia or China, does anyone know if this is happening at all or at the same rate as the US and western European countries?

If there was truly a problem of "epic" proportions then surely all the big guys would be taking "refugees" under their wings.

People in third world countries suffer terrible privations but plucking them out by the tens of thousands does not solve their problems or the problems of their nations.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Nadir on August 09, 2015, 03:49:28 AM
Quote from: Marlelar
But it is not just the US that does despicable things.  


That makes it OK then? Or at least make "one" feel better.

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If there was truly a problem of "epic" proportions then surely all the big guys would be taking "refugees" under their wings.

People in third world countries suffer terrible privations but plucking them out by the tens of thousands does not solve their problems or the problems of their nations.



What is the meaning of the quotation marks around the word refugees? Is a problem only "epic" if it affects you personally?

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I haven't heard of Somalis or Syrians being resettled in Russia or China, does anyone know if this is happening at all or at the same rate as the US and western European countries?


It's easy enough to find out.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-countries-taking-syrias-refugees-2014-9

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War

http://ericmargolis.com/2015/07/destroying-syria-to-make-it-safe-for-american-values/
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Marlelar on August 09, 2015, 03:39:26 PM
Nadir, I think you are deliberately try to misunderstand me.  I never said I approve.  If you had read carefully you would have noticed my word choices such as "despicable".

Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Nadir on August 09, 2015, 05:03:38 PM
No, Marlelar! I have read everything you wrote with care.
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But I love my country (although I hate the government) and grieve for what is ahead.


It is natural for a person to love their own country. That sentiment is good for all and the Syrians, who no doubt love their country - you have something in common with them - now are in need.

The U.S. has done next to nothing, comparatively, to recompense these people for the evil that it has done to them. And you seem to resent their prospective presence in your midst. This is what I take exception to. Your despicable despising of them, shown by the use of your language, e.g. calling them "a scourge from God", 'so-called "refugees"' (when they are so obviously bona fide), saying "they should stay in their own countries and fight for their own freedoms".

Besides, you have not answered one of my questions and then you play the poor misunderstood one.

I do understand what you are saying. What I take exception to is your "blame the victim" stance, your ignorance of what America owes these people because of the evil deeds America has perpetrated against them and your attitude shown by choosing to disbelieve their need of help:
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If there was truly a problem of "epic" proportions then surely all the big guys(?) would be taking "refugees" under their wings.


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The United States is scheduled to take in its largest group of Syrian refugees to date — up to 2,000 by the fall of this year, (2015) compared with a total of about 700 since the cινιℓ ωαr in Syria began four years ago, according to the State Department.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/18/world/middleeast/un-calls-on-western-nations-to-shelter-syrian-refugees.html

With that I will leave you in "peace".
 
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: PerEvangelicaDicta on August 10, 2015, 10:24:02 AM
But the big picture has to do with, once again, the tribe.  What do most of these nations, that have been or will be destroyed by the US muscle-of-the-jews, have in common?  No Rothschild controlled central bank.  One by one, they are torn to shreds, natural resources confiscated, central bank installed. That's the recipe.  As a bonus, they derive great pleasure from the collateral damage of the suffering innocent, who scramble to emigrate from the horrors of war and starvation.


Title: How to destroy America
Post by: JPaul on August 11, 2015, 09:12:48 PM
How do you destroy America?   You let a certain revolutionary element into the country, a mistake that was made in the late nineteeth century.  The invasion of the foreign hoards today is a another manifestation of that mistake.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: BTNYC on August 12, 2015, 12:06:12 AM
What is this talk of "destroying" America, as though America were a nation of intrinsic value or integrity to begin with?

The world's first secular republic; born in the bƖσσdshɛd of an unjust ιnѕυrrєcтισn against a legitimate (if heretical) monarch; treated Almighty God with contemptuous indifference in its founding docuмents; founded by - and on the errors of - freemasons; codified Religious Indifferentism in its founding docuмents and subsequent laws, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum?

Spiritually speaking, America, as a nation, was stillborn. How does one speak of the "destruction' of that which was, from birth, already dead?
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 12, 2015, 04:08:29 AM
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
To bring in all these immigrants. Where are all the JOBS. Unless they
are taken away from native born Americans.
The obvious motives is the planned destabilization of the country.  
It seems that from last night debates on Fox News, the question
was not even asked.


Welfare.  

Also, many will have tax free business while other family members will get welfare, foodstamps,.   They don't pay property taxes so their children will be going to head start, schools and free college.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 12, 2015, 04:25:17 AM
Quote from: Nadir
Quote from: Marlelar
I think it is a scourge from God.  Like Europe we have sold out to every group of degenerates there are.  But I love my country (although I hate the government) and grieve for what is ahead.


A scourge or a challenge? It is not a plague of rats or grasshoppers who are the subject of the word scourge, but fellow suffering humanity. It is a chance to make reparation for the disaster America has inflicted on these family-loving people. America may even have something to learn from them.

These people are pawns in the hands of the powers who wish to turn the whole world into a blood-bath and set peoples against each other. Do not fall into the trap of the war-mongers, and co-operate with them by despising their victims. One day we will all be their victims. Syrians today, Americans tomorrow, Australians after that.


The trouble is that most of these people end up being terrorists and hating us after they were given a free ride. The Boston marathon bombers are examples.  




Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 12, 2015, 04:26:45 AM
At least most of the Mexicans are Catholics.  
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 12, 2015, 04:46:47 AM
Catholic Syrians are welcome to come to USA.  

Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 12, 2015, 04:48:54 AM
Quote from: Marlelar
I think they should stay in their own countries and fight for their own freedoms, or whatever it is that they want.  I do not welcome waves of so-called "refugees".

I do not believe that thousands of "refugees" cannot be marshaled into an effective army in their own country to fight their opposition.  Five or ten or a hundred, true they would have no chance, but the 25,000 Somalis that are in MN could certainly have had a chance to change their own country.

65,000 Syrians are coming to America, that is the size of an army, they certainly can fight in their own country.
.  And most of Syria is Muslim.  
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: BTNYC on August 12, 2015, 08:09:26 AM
Quote from: BTNYC
What is this talk of "destroying" America, as though America were a nation of intrinsic value or integrity to begin with?

The world's first secular republic; born in the bƖσσdshɛd of an unjust ιnѕυrrєcтισn against a legitimate (if heretical) monarch; treated Almighty God with contemptuous indifference in its founding docuмents; founded by - and on the errors of - freemasons; codified Religious Indifferentism in its founding docuмents and subsequent laws, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum?

Spiritually speaking, America, as a nation, was stillborn. How does one speak of the "destruction' of that which was, from birth, already dead?


Downthumber: If what I posted is in error, correct it.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 12, 2015, 08:55:39 AM
Quote from: BTNYC
Quote from: BTNYC
What is this talk of "destroying" America, as though America were a nation of intrinsic value or integrity to begin with?

The world's first secular republic; born in the bƖσσdshɛd of an unjust ιnѕυrrєcтισn against a legitimate (if heretical) monarch; treated Almighty God with contemptuous indifference in its founding docuмents; founded by - and on the errors of - freemasons; codified Religious Indifferentism in its founding docuмents and subsequent laws, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum?

Spiritually speaking, America, as a nation, was stillborn. How does one speak of the "destruction' of that which was, from birth, already dead?


Downthumber: If what I posted is in error, correct it.


Good point.   This country has been anti Catholic from the start.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: PerEvangelicaDicta on August 12, 2015, 03:20:15 PM
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
Quote from: BTNYC
Quote from: BTNYC
What is this talk of "destroying" America, as though America were a nation of intrinsic value or integrity to begin with?

The world's first secular republic; born in the bƖσσdshɛd of an unjust ιnѕυrrєcтισn against a legitimate (if heretical) monarch; treated Almighty God with contemptuous indifference in its founding docuмents; founded by - and on the errors of - freemasons; codified Religious Indifferentism in its founding docuмents and subsequent laws, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum?

Spiritually speaking, America, as a nation, was stillborn. How does one speak of the "destruction' of that which was, from birth, already dead?


Downthumber: If what I posted is in error, correct it.


Good point.   This country has been anti Catholic from the start.


Indeed VCR!  I literally felt ill when I learned about Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ (via conversion to traditional Catholicism) and it's responsibility in the formation and history of the US.

Most Americans, and most American trads, do not know or want to know what BTNYC succinctly commented.  To acknowledge this horror shakes the foundations of American 'reality', which is fed by the brainwashing re: "American exceptionalism" and all those other ridiculous so-called patriotic paradigms.  In fairness, it's tough to be shaken out of that tree.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Cera on August 12, 2015, 03:46:21 PM
Quote from: MrYeZe
America is the biggest exporter of secularism, sin, degeneration, fαɢɢօtry, abortion, ect. in the world. If they can't make a conservative country embrace these values through funding terrorist organizations to destabilize them, they just outright invade and force it on the populace.

Even though I live in America, and I say, good riddance.  Dilute the world police state of the secularist so that the true faith may thrive elseware in the world.


Our Lady of Fatima said "Russia will spread her errors throughout the word." The fact is that Russia was the first nation to legalize abortion and the first to legalize easy divorce. Then the Communist Georg Lukacs, in Hungary 1905, started sex education by passing out pornography and condoms to schoolchildren. Then the Communists, spreading their errors throughout the word, started the Frankfurt School in Germany. Communist Marcuse, of the Frankfurt School, came to the U.S. and started the sɛҳuąƖ revolution here. He is the oringinator of "sex, drugs and rock and roll" and "make love, not war."

Methinks you need to to a bit of research when you look happily forward to the true faith being able to thrive in the NWO.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Cera on August 12, 2015, 03:52:22 PM
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
At least most of the Mexicans are Catholics.  


Except for the rapists, murderers, child molesters and drug lords. And I don't know where you live, but around here where they are the majority many if not most are cultural Catholics who only show up for Christmas, Easter and Quienceterra.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: BTNYC on August 12, 2015, 04:58:19 PM
Quote from: Cera
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
At least most of the Mexicans are Catholics.  


Except for the rapists, murderers, child molesters and drug lords. And I don't know where you live, but around here where they are the majority many if not most are cultural Catholics who only show up for Christmas, Easter and Quienceterra.


This is true. Mexico - and basically all of Central and South America - are no longer comprised of Catholic nations, as they were just six or seven decades ago. The Communists played a big role in bringing that about, certainly, but it's also thanks in large part to the de-Catholicization of Catholic nations the world over that went on at Vatican II (under the particularly disproportionate influence of Americanist / CIA stooge John Courtney Murray, SJ), as well as the efforts of godless Masonic America's CIA in actively spreading Protestantism in Catholic Latin America (itself really only yet another chapter in America's long-standing campaign against encroaching Catholic influences from her neighbors, dating back to at least the anti-Catholic sham War against Catholic Spain in 1898).

Our Lady was right - Russia did spread her errors. But nowhere did she say that America would not also spread her errors. Heck, the Communist Revolutionaries themselves owed their success to their financial backers - American Jєωιѕн bankers.

America - not the EU; not the USSR, not the French Republic - holds the damnable distinction of being the world's first godless, masonic republic. An evil tree does not yield good fruit.

And this is as good a place as any for me to plug a new book covering a subject that's been screaming out for decades for the light of day to be cast upon it: John Courtney Murray, Time/Life, and the American Proposition: How the CIA's Doctrinal Warfare Program Changed the Catholic Church, by David A. Wemhoff now available from culturewars.com: http://www.culturewars.com/

(http://www.culturewars.com/images/BooksCDs/Murray.jpg)
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Nadir on August 12, 2015, 05:40:14 PM
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey

The trouble is that most of these people end up being terrorists and hating us after they were given a free ride. The Boston marathon bombers are examples.  


Viva! Are you imagining how you would hate if what has been done to them had been done to you?

They might have good reason to hate you Americans, but that does not mean that they do, or that "most of these people end up being terrorists". That is simply not true.  Besides, America is largely built on migrants and refugees, just as my country is, oooh! and condemned criminals and masons. So don't get too uppity about yourself. Terrorists do not need to be imported to the U.S. you've got plenty already.

You realise, Cera, that the Russian revolution was largely funded by U.S. money.

Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 13, 2015, 06:35:32 AM
Quote from: Nadir
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey

The trouble is that most of these people end up being terrorists and hating us after they were given a free ride. The Boston marathon bombers are examples.  


Viva! Are you imagining how you would hate if what has been done to them had been done to you?

They might have good reason to hate you Americans, but that does not mean that they do, or that "most of these people end up being terrorists". That is simply not true.  Besides, America is largely built on migrants and refugees, just as my country is, oooh! and condemned criminals and masons. So don't get too uppity about yourself. Terrorists do not need to be imported to the U.S. you've got plenty already.

You realise, Cera, that the Russian revolution was largely funded by U.S. money.



When my ancestors came over from Ireland and Greece on death ships they didn't receive cash, food stamps, low income homes, tax free businesses, free college and unemployment, free Medicaid, disability, SSI like the immigrants of today.  

In fact, they were further persecuted and crosses were burned on their front lawn.  Before Catholic schools were built, my ancestors were persecuted for being Catholic.  Then there was Irish need not apply.  Now everyone is struggling to pay extremely high property taxes because immigrant legal and illegal aren't paying their fair share of taxes because they end being votes.   Any businesses including foreign businesses set up shop in our towns and are tax free and the residents are paying the price.  
Foreclosures and for sale signs all over.  Their children are struggling to pay off student loans while many illegal and legal immigrants are getting a free education.





Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 13, 2015, 06:50:14 AM
Me uppity?  No way.  

Are the immigrants to blame?   No, our Government is always playing games and it is corrupt.

Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 13, 2015, 07:09:54 AM
Yes, my ancestors were further persecuted right here in America.  

The immigrants who come to USA nowadays have it made compared to the immigrants of the past.




Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 13, 2015, 07:36:14 AM
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At least most of the Mexicans are Catholics.  


Except for the rapists, murderers, child molesters and drug lords. And I don't know where you live, but around here where they are the majority many if not most are cultural Catholics who only show up for Christmas, Easter and Quienceterra.

 
The Mexican people are like all other people.  

We have several tradional Catholic Mexican Priests who are serving area.

Out of all our bishops and priests, it was Father Rodriquez who publicly spoke up and preached. against ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and same sex.  In our area, there many Mexican a Catholics who attend Mass everyday and pray the Rosary.  The majority of Mexican people are decent and hardworking.  
These people are our neighbors.  

There is good and bad in everyone.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 13, 2015, 07:39:27 AM
Actually the Mexicans and immigrants from South America have been discriminated against.

Look at how many Muslim immigrants from the Middle East were given automatic US citizenship.  
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: BTNYC on August 13, 2015, 01:16:11 PM
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Look at how many Muslim immigrants from the Middle East were given automatic US citizenship.  


Well, as I find myself repeating over and over again to my Moslem-hating (but Israel-loving) neocon relatives, we have Jacob Javits, B'nai B'rith, and the American Jєωιѕн Congress to thank for that. The Tribe thrives when Christian nations (which ours was at least in a demographic and heretical sense) lose their identity and become a muddled, diversified, disorganized mass of easily controlled goyim.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on August 13, 2015, 01:51:05 PM
Here is a good internet radio program called the X22 Report Uncovering
the Truth.

In about a hours time Dave will cover the domestic economy,
the Greek Bailout, illegal immigration and why it is happening.
Russia, the Ukraine, and the EU etc.

Here is the website:

http://x22report.com/

The international bankers need open borders and making all illegal
immigrants citizens is because here in the U.S. so  many Americans
are tapped out and underwater because of the 2007-2009 Depression-
Recession.  Many of their homes have been foreclosed, and
many if not working are in the underground economy. And
many have dropped out looking for work.
In a recent article in the Houston Chronicle, Shell Oil Company
laid   off thousands of workers because of the dropped in oil
prices.
These illegal immigrants are needed in jobs that are low paying and
keep the economy going just to delay the final collapse and the start the start of WW3.
Secretary of State Carey said if the Iran deal does not pass, it would be
the end of the American Dollar.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Cera on August 13, 2015, 05:11:10 PM
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At least most of the Mexicans are Catholics.  


Except for the rapists, murderers, child molesters and drug lords. And I don't know where you live, but around here where they are the majority many if not most are cultural Catholics who only show up for Christmas, Easter and Quienceterra.

 
The Mexican people are like all other people.  

We have several tradional Catholic Mexican Priests who are serving area.

Out of all our bishops and priests, it was Father Rodriquez who publicly spoke up and preached. against ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and same sex.  In our area, there many Mexican a Catholics who attend Mass everyday and pray the Rosary.  The majority of Mexican people are decent and hardworking.  
These people are our neighbors.  

There is good and bad in everyone.


Of course I agree. With Mexican daughters-in-law and grandchildren of Mexican descent, how could I not?
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Cera on August 13, 2015, 05:13:21 PM
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Actually the Mexicans and immigrants from South America have been discriminated against.

Look at how many Muslim immigrants from the Middle East were given automatic US citizenship.  

Good point. Actually in L.A. it is Mexicans (not all, of course) who will not rent to Central and South Americans. The Commission on Equal Housing whatever has problems with that issue.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Nadir on August 13, 2015, 05:40:21 PM
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey

When my ancestors came over from Ireland and Greece on death ships they didn't receive cash, food stamps, low income homes, tax free businesses, free college and unemployment, free Medicaid, disability, SSI like the immigrants of today.  


I'll bet if yours had been offered any aid they'd have accepted it gladly. Some of mine came to our country as prisoners, so they did have accommodation and work of sorts! Others jumped ship and laid low for a while, tramping the country looking for work. It's never easy to relocate to a strange land, except for the super-rich.

But that's all beside the point of this thread. I just wanted to make the point that these people are not here by choice, but by the decision of your own government with the idea of destabilisation. And no doubt, the government is favoring Muslim rather than Christian refugees. You can't blame the Muslims for that either! So not to blame the victim of this evil. I know you'r not uppity. As you say
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There is good and bad in everyone.


It's just that these people have suffered and continue to suffer greatly at the hands of your own government. In justice they should be compensated and welcomed as far as is possible.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 13, 2015, 08:06:25 PM
You are right.  No one deserves to suffer.  Even our enemies shouldn't suffer.  St Francis of Assisi converted Muslims and Jєωιѕн people to the Catholic faith.

It so sad to see our country divided by hate and race.  

And everyone can do without government aid.  Socialism, communism, liberalism are sins against God.  Restore all things in Christ.  

As a Catholic, all lives matter.

Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 13, 2015, 08:07:44 PM
Nadir, you are a good person.  God bless you.
Title: How to destroy America
Post by: Nadir on August 14, 2015, 01:07:28 AM
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As a Catholic, all lives matter.



So true! God bless you too, Viva!