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Offline Desmond

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How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2016, 02:56:12 AM »
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  • The thing I like most about the Trump is drives you liebe-rals into a constant obsessive fit.

    Offline Stubborn

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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #16 on: March 11, 2016, 05:14:15 AM »
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    Right because giving a neo-pagan, Godless nation billions of dollars is a good idea. (cough, cough) nαzι Germany, Soviet Russia, Communist China... (cough, cough)


    No, I don't think it's a good idea, I just think it's a worse idea to leave all that money up to Hilary to manage. I think they are all a bunch of crooks to some degree and no matter who gets in won't really matter in the scheme of things.

    Trump reminds me a lot of a millionaire I knew, who himself had 4 wives. But the guy I knew said what he thought when necessary, usually without concern for being PC similar to Trump, and whatever his other faults, he was a great business man.      

    A great economy doesn't fix a depraved society and giving a depraved people money to pursue their depraved desires REALLY isn't a good idea.


    Of course it doesn't and it never will as long as we are a country without God and without the Church, it is only a matter of time before a final collapse. No man can fix this, no president can save us from the inevitable doom we are headed for and no one here is saying otherwise.  

    The Jews running this country into the pit will keep squeezing us for all they can get out of us no matter who gets elected, but personally, I think I could stand the thought of the Donald as president, but the thought of that evil old grandma  running this country turns my stomach.  
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    Offline Centroamerica

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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #17 on: March 11, 2016, 05:22:28 AM »
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    The thing I like most about the Trump is drives you liebe-rals into a constant obsessive fit.


    Yeah, there seems to be a pattern of him being unpopular with liberals, illegal immigrants, and overweight unattractive women...
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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #18 on: March 11, 2016, 09:15:11 AM »
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    The thing I like most about the Trump is drives you liebe-rals into a constant obsessive fit.


    Yeah, there seems to be a pattern of him being unpopular with liberals, illegal immigrants, and overweight unattractive women...


    Before the wave of women downthumbing this, in no way did I mean to say that women who are adamantly opposed to Trump are all unattractive or overweight. In fact, there are unattractive, overweight women supporting him, too. I was only making a reference to the emotions his comments might have stirred in otherwise unhappy fans of Rosie O'Donnel.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #19 on: March 11, 2016, 09:55:25 AM »
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    Of course it doesn't and it never will as long as we are a country without God and without the Church, it is only a matter of time before a final collapse. No man can fix this, no president can save us from the inevitable doom we are headed for and no one here is saying otherwise.  

    The Jews running this country into the pit will keep squeezing us for all they can get out of us no matter who gets elected, but personally, I think I could stand the thought of the Donald as president, but the thought of that evil old grandma  running this country turns my stomach.  



    Exactly.  Quite frankly, I fail to understand how any person or bloc of voters can believe how a President who is a Protestant is going to sway the United States citizens and culture back to morality.  If the so-called Christian churches can't do it, how in the world is a US President going to?  

    Besides, the US President is not a Monarch.  He can not, with a swoop of his pen, end divorce, end feminism, end birth control, mandate that people convert to Catholicism or Protestantism, shudder the mosques, end out of wedlock births, stop drug abuse, end pedophilia, etc.  

    A US President has limited power, and the only things he can actually accomplish he must either do with a congress of elected officials from two different parties or with executive orders.

    Currently, over half of our population is without work.  You can't reduce government spending on entitlement programs if you don't have jobs for people to work.  You can't have $8 an hour jobs and expect a person to work and pay rent and feed a family on that in this economy.  

    You can't defend your people in your country if you don't know who is coming into it.  And you can't tell who is coming into it unless you have a really strict security system.  

    You can't expect to have peace with any 3rd world country if you are constantly going in, over-throwing their corrupt government to establish democracy, and therefore allowing people to put into place a more dangerous corrupt regime than before.

    Divorce.  That ship has sailed, launched and christened by Ronald Reagan in 1969.  Abortion without restriction has sailed, also launched and christened by Ronald Reagan in 1967 by his signing of the Therapeutic Abortion Act.  The evil and corrupt Department of Education that has led down this road of the moral corruption of our children, not launched by Reagan but certainly christened by him in 1980 when he accept GHW Bush as VP.  John F. Kennedy, by pushing through the Equal Pay Act in 1963, essentially froze men's pay so that women could get equal pay in the work place.  

    I could go on and on.

    We are in the place in our country with moral depravity precisely because the so-called "moral" candidates put us there.  All of these bills these politicians and Presidents put in place have led our country to the moral precipice.  If you do not see that, then you are blind, naive, or both.

    Donald Trump is a business man first and foremost.  Everything he does is a business deal.  If a business deal is bad for him, he will walk away from the table, try to recover what was lost, and move on.

    A war with Israel is bad business.  Thus, when he says he will be neutral between Israel and Palestine, I believe him.  He may be friends with the Jews, his daughter may be a Jew, but Donald is not stupid.  He's not going to do anything to cost the US more money.

    He knows explicitly why companies are moving their businesses overseas because he had to do it himself.  He has said it over and over---a company in the US can not be competitive because the cards are stacked against us in these trade deals.  Other countries do not play by our rules.

    As far as terrorism goes....I served in the military.  These countries don't give two cents about a POW.  Our soldiers mean NOTHING to them.  Even after you give up information, they will kill you.  Playing footsie, trying not to offend countries who play by different rules is not helping us.  Rather than torture them, we should execute all terrorists.  They are a danger to our country and our people and there is NOTHING un-Catholic or immoral about executing a terrorist who wants to kill you.  

    Yes, I care about my children's souls.  But I also worry about their future.  They can't live at home with us forever.  They need jobs.  They need homes.  I have a son who is training to be a pilot in the Navy.  I want him to be safe and not give up his life because we don't understand the enemies play book.

    Hillary Clinton is a war monger, a liar, a thief, a murderer, an career corrupt politician who will do anything to roll in the rays of power.  She could care less about a single person on the face of this earth.  She would just as soon stir up the black folks just to get them to vote for her than to serve tea to the Jєωιѕн bankers on Saturday.  A Clinton presidency will be more Muslims, more war, more race-baiting, more hatred, more anger, more un-employment, more debt.  

    At least Donald Trump actually knows that there are people who live below poverty.  He knows that people need jobs and if you give them jobs, they work.  They feed their kids.  They stay out of trouble as much as they can.  

    We are living in a post Christian society.  The people who do not understand that are delusional.  The only in roads made into ending abortion have been real people who went into the streets and started filming the horrors in the abortion mills.  It was only then, that these congressmen realized that the people are sick of this.  That's when the mills started closing down.  It wasn't because a President wrote anything into law.

    Divorce, abortion, sɛҳuąƖ perversion, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity---all those things are cemented into our culture.  They are not going anywhere.  All we can hope for are law makers who will protect us from prosecution when we don't want to bake a cake or host a wedding for queers.

    With churches closing their doors by the hundreds, all we can hope for is the freedom to PUBLICLY practice our faith, to teach our children in our faith, to educate our own children.

    I personally believe Donald Trump will do what he says.  If he doesn't, the people, real people will stop buying his products.  They will stop spending money at his casinos and hotels.  It will be really bad for his business.  It will be a media frenzy.  He doesn't want that.

    He will serve only 1 term.  Then it will be a political reset.  Then maybe both the Republicans and Democrats will realize they do really have to answer to the people.



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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #20 on: March 11, 2016, 10:02:52 AM »
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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #21 on: March 11, 2016, 10:19:16 AM »
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    This!
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

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    Offline Pax Vobis

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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #22 on: March 11, 2016, 10:45:21 AM »
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  • Most of your points are good, until this...

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    I personally believe Donald Trump will do what he says.  If he doesn't, the people, real people will stop buying his products.  They will stop spending money at his casinos and hotels.  It will be really bad for his business.  It will be a media frenzy.  He doesn't want that.


    1.  "he will do what he says".  Which is what?  Increase tariff taxes?  If/when china/asia raises their currency rates to normal levels or if/when the US raises tariff/import taxes is the day that our economy collapses because prices at walmart and every other store where they use imported goods will skyrocket!  This has to eventually happen, because the market can't be denied, but if it happens all at once, wow!  you'll be paying $10 for an apple and worse.  

    As you pointed out earlier, what can Trump really do besides pray that congress pass good laws.  The presidency controls veto power (which is a negative power) and he controls the military.  Not much he can do positively; he can only avoid a negative (bad law or war).

    2.   "If he doesn't, people will stop buying his products".  Who's going to stop going to hotels/casinos if they disagree with trump?  Those that frequent casinos are usually addicted and if they avoid his hotels, they'll just go to another chain, which is owned by a different billionaire, who supported Trump or Obama.

    Face it, we live in a monopolistic world.  This is why jobs are so bad; they've been cut because of mergers/acquisitions over the past 2 decades.  And they aren't coming back.  There's only 4-5 major hotel chains - all owned by many of the same people.  There's 3 major cell phone companies, etc, etc.  'We the people' have no economic leverage.  Anywhere we shop, it's supporting some big wig.  Need to face reality on this one.

    3.  A "media frenzy" related to what?  They'll attack him because he's a republican, which is part of the game.  That's about it.


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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #23 on: March 11, 2016, 12:33:42 PM »
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    Trump also says he'll bring jobs back to America and rebuild what's little left of the U.S. manufacturing base (Jєωιѕн Wall St. and the globalists hate him for this reason). He'll end preemptive wars (warmongering Zionist Neocons, globalists and the War Machine hate him for this reason). He'll bring back "Merry Christmas" and do away with "happy holidays" around Christmas time (Jews and atheists hate him for this reason). He'll end federal funding to Planned Parenthood (Jєωιѕн proponents & pioneers of infanticide, and their feminist whore-pig lackeys, hate Trump for this reason). This is just off the top of my head.



    I could not have said it better than you!   :applause:

    Trump is certainly the lesser of 2 evils.  Our country is trillions in debt!   We have illegals and "refugees" pouring into the country.  We have to take the "risk" to vote for a non establishment candidate.  

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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #24 on: March 11, 2016, 12:46:45 PM »
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    This!


    I agree. Nice to see someone who knows what they're talking about.
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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #25 on: March 11, 2016, 04:10:03 PM »
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    Trump is certainly the lesser of 2 evils.  Our country is trillions in debt!  We have illegals and "refugees" pouring into the country.  We have to take the "risk" to vote for a non establishment candidate.


    That simply says it all...


    Offline Matthew

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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #26 on: March 11, 2016, 04:27:52 PM »
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  • I'm not convinced that Trump is any better than Hillary, and in fact he is actually worse in some ways.

    At least Hillary was only married once, and is still married to her husband (the Clinton marriage is somewhat of a sham, but at least it has a surface veneer of respectability)

    If Hillary Clinton divorced Bill and married a 20 year old jigolo was was famous for posing in the nude, THEN we would have an equivalent to Trump in the area of marriage fidelity and morality.

    That is just one example of what I'm getting at.

    The office of President doesn't have as much power as you might think. We're not voting for our next dictator or king. However, they have a lot of power as role models and revered, highly public figures. They influence the nation by their morality, principles, and priorities -- probably more so than they do by the actual power they wield in the government.

    And yes, I take this (personal life, past record) into consideration AT LEAST AS MUCH as I consider a candidate's lip service campaign promises.
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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #27 on: March 11, 2016, 07:40:08 PM »
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    I haven't spoken before, but I would like to tell you what I think about Trump.

    Trump certainly isn't a perfect choice, but we are facing some very dire times if Hilary gets in.  He isn't a politician, which is huge in my book, he is a successful business man, he is hated by all the people I can't stand in Washington, when he talks about what he would do for America it is always things I have been concerned about.  Especially the job situation.  The unemployment numbers are bogus and we know that so many can't find work, or if they do it is only part time.  We need jobs in America.

    One thing that has surprised me is he has never been a drinker and he doesn't smoke and he raised a pretty decent family. No, he isn't Catholic but God still protects our freedoms when we have a honorable leader even if he is an unbeliever. I have been praying for him a lot just because maybe the pressures of this political campaign may actually cause him to turn to our Lord in a big way.

    Let me ask you AnonymousCatholic isn't the fact of our great need in America for someone to do something about our crisis enough reason to at least hope he will do what he says and vote for him?  We don't know if he will follow through, but we DO know that the politicians aren't going to do anything - they have proved that.  It will be the same old thing with them.

    The way Obama has gutted the military, we could easily face a national crisis if some other nation attacked us.  We are pretty spoiled in that department. For that reason I will support someone from outside government who seems to know what the problems are.

    He needs are prayers.





    A) If America is invaded the last people protecting American citizens will be the military. They'll be to busy fortifying all of Trumps businesses and protecting those important politicians.

    In a military crisis the military protects assets not liabilities.


    B) He doesn't say he'll address any actual issues. ISIS isn't what's wrong with our nation and a sudden economic turnaround isn't suddenly going to convert our Godless craphole. We are HEATHENS and so is Trump.





    C) If Trump is a pagan and Hillary is a pagan what's the difference? "Protect our freedoms..." :facepalm: If voting for the "lesser of the two evils" actually worked we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today. And that's assumoing Trump is the lesser of two evils.



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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #28 on: March 11, 2016, 07:43:48 PM »
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    The thing I like most about the Trump is drives you liebe-rals into a constant obsessive fit.


    When did I ever suggest anything liberal?

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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #29 on: March 11, 2016, 07:50:08 PM »
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    Right because giving a neo-pagan, Godless nation billions of dollars is a good idea. (cough, cough) nαzι Germany, Soviet Russia, Communist China... (cough, cough)


    No, I don't think it's a good idea, I just think it's a worse idea to leave all that money up to Hilary to manage. I think they are all a bunch of crooks to some degree and no matter who gets in won't really matter in the scheme of things.

    Trump reminds me a lot of a millionaire I knew, who himself had 4 wives. But the guy I knew said what he thought when necessary, usually without concern for being PC similar to Trump, and whatever his other faults, he was a great business man.      

    A great economy doesn't fix a depraved society and giving a depraved people money to pursue their depraved desires REALLY isn't a good idea.


    Of course it doesn't and it never will as long as we are a country without God and without the Church, it is only a matter of time before a final collapse. No man can fix this, no president can save us from the inevitable doom we are headed for and no one here is saying otherwise.  

    The Jews running this country into the pit will keep squeezing us for all they can get out of us no matter who gets elected, but personally, I think I could stand the thought of the Donald as president, but the thought of that evil old grandma  running this country turns my stomach.  




    Again what is the difference? Trump will legalize prostitution and build a casino in every city in America. Hillary will expand welfare and planned parenthood.


    It's basically saying "I'd rather burn to death than freeze to death." Guess what? Both are equally fatal and both will be painful, slow and horrible.