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How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
« on: March 09, 2016, 08:17:35 PM »
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  • So I've argued with quite a few pro-Trump people on here recently and I want to ask:


    How is Trump truly the lesser of two evils?



    Because that is the bottom line point of the pro Trump people. Take one trip to google and you find the man isn't even morally tolerable. He is a pig. The only thing he says he'll do that is plausible is protect guns. And that's probably going to be handled like his pro life stance which means he says it for election day and forgets about it.



    Seriously the only thing he'll do is build a wall (maybe), legalize prostitution and build casinos in every city with federal money. He promises to make us money an  that's about it. Does money somehow make him less evil? I didn't know we all became Calvinists.


    So someone please explain to me how you can come to the conclusion that Trump is  the lesser of two evils.
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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #1 on: March 10, 2016, 03:21:43 PM »
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  • Trump also says he'll bring jobs back to America and rebuild what's little left of the U.S. manufacturing base (Jewish Wall St. and the globalists hate him for this reason). He'll end preemptive wars (warmongering Zionist Neocons, globalists and the War Machine hate him for this reason). He'll bring back "Merry Christmas" and do away with "happy holidays" around Christmas time (Jews and atheists hate him for this reason). He'll end federal funding to Planned Parenthood (Jewish proponents & pioneers of infanticide, and their feminist whore-pig lackeys, hate Trump for this reason). This is just off the top of my head.
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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #2 on: March 10, 2016, 03:58:48 PM »
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  • Sanders is a Jew, so no vote for him even if he were the only candidate.

    So the race is between Hilary and Donald. Neither are morally tolerable so if we overlook that, then may as well vote for Donald as he has proven himself a successful business man.

    After all, the government is in everyone's businesses, essentially, the government is running and strangling most businesses. It is in the business of finance, the business of oil, the business of health care, the business of communications, the business of transportation, the business of etc. ad nausem, looking at it that way, it makes a lot more sense to vote in the Donald than the Hilary.

     
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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #3 on: March 10, 2016, 05:11:08 PM »
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    Trump also says he'll bring jobs back to America and rebuild what's little left of the U.S. manufacturing base (Jewish Wall St. and the globalists hate him for this reason). He'll end preemptive wars (warmongering Zionist Neocons, globalists and the War Machine hate him for this reason). He'll bring back "Merry Christmas" and do away with "happy holidays" around Christmas time (Jews and atheists hate him for this reason). He'll end federal funding to Planned Parenthood (Jewish proponents & pioneers of infanticide, and their feminist whore-pig lackeys, hate Trump for this reason). This is just off the top of my head.




    I have no doubt Trump will do well in reviving the American economy but that won't fix the real problems with our country.




    I don't know where you heard him say he'll end foreign wars, because his wife is married to a Jew.



    I fail to see how making "merry Christmas" a federal mandate will actually educate anyone about Catholicism.





    If everyone starts acting like Trumps wife Planned Parenthood won't need federal funding.
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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #4 on: March 10, 2016, 05:13:14 PM »
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    Neither are morally tolerable so if we overlook that, then may as well vote for Donald as he has proven himself a successful business man.


     






    Right because giving a neo-pagan, Godless nation billions of dollars is a good idea. (cough, cough) Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Communist China... (cough, cough)
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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #5 on: March 10, 2016, 05:59:28 PM »
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    Right because giving a neo-pagan, Godless nation billions of dollars is a good idea. (cough, cough) Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Communist China... (cough, cough)


    No, I don't think it's a good idea, I just think it's a worse idea to leave all that money up to Hilary to manage. I think they are all a bunch of crooks to some degree and no matter who gets in won't really matter in the scheme of things.

    Trump reminds me a lot of a millionaire I knew, who himself had 4 wives. But the guy I knew said what he thought when necessary, usually without concern for being PC similar to Trump, and whatever his other faults, he was a great business man.

     

         
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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #6 on: March 10, 2016, 06:32:10 PM »
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    Trump also says he'll bring jobs back to America and rebuild what's little left of the U.S. manufacturing base (Jewish Wall St. and the globalists hate him for this reason). He'll end preemptive wars (warmongering Zionist Neocons, globalists and the War Machine hate him for this reason). He'll bring back "Merry Christmas" and do away with "happy holidays" around Christmas time (Jews and atheists hate him for this reason). He'll end federal funding to Planned Parenthood (Jewish proponents & pioneers of infanticide, and their feminist whore-pig lackeys, hate Trump for this reason). This is just off the top of my head.


    I have no doubt Trump will do well in reviving the American economy but that won't fix the real problems with our country.
     


    Reviving the economy is the best place to start.  North America has too much time on it's hands.  Putting people back to work will give them some pride in their accomplishments which they will want to protect.  With less time to get into mischief they will set standards to regulate the time they have outside work.  History shows us that working people are more content and MORAL.  Working parents don't put up with their kids nonsense nor do they make excuses for them.(Of course I'm talking about the two parent, male and female, family).

    Idle hands are the devil's workshop

    Get jobs back on U.S. soil and people working

    Trump is transparent...what you see is what you get.  Hillary is devious.
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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #7 on: March 10, 2016, 07:29:25 PM »
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    Right because giving a neo-pagan, Godless nation billions of dollars is a good idea. (cough, cough) Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Communist China... (cough, cough)


    No, I don't think it's a good idea, I just think it's a worse idea to leave all that money up to Hilary to manage. I think they are all a bunch of crooks to some degree and no matter who gets in won't really matter in the scheme of things.

    Trump reminds me a lot of a millionaire I knew, who himself had 4 wives. But the guy I knew said what he thought when necessary, usually without concern for being PC similar to Trump, and whatever his other faults, he was a great business man.

     

         




    A great economy doesn't fix a depraved society and giving a depraved people money to pursue their depraved desires REALLY isn't a good idea.
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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #8 on: March 10, 2016, 07:41:55 PM »
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    Trump also says he'll bring jobs back to America and rebuild what's little left of the U.S. manufacturing base (Jewish Wall St. and the globalists hate him for this reason). He'll end preemptive wars (warmongering Zionist Neocons, globalists and the War Machine hate him for this reason). He'll bring back "Merry Christmas" and do away with "happy holidays" around Christmas time (Jews and atheists hate him for this reason). He'll end federal funding to Planned Parenthood (Jewish proponents & pioneers of infanticide, and their feminist whore-pig lackeys, hate Trump for this reason). This is just off the top of my head.


    I have no doubt Trump will do well in reviving the American economy but that won't fix the real problems with our country.
     


    Reviving the economy is the best place to start.  North America has too much time on it's hands.  Putting people back to work will give them some pride in their accomplishments which they will want to protect.  With less time to get into mischief they will set standards to regulate the time they have outside work.  History shows us that working people are more content and MORAL.  Working parents don't put up with their kids nonsense nor do they make excuses for them.(Of course I'm talking about the two parent, male and female, family).

    Idle hands are the devil's workshop

    Get jobs back on U.S. soil and people working

    Trump is transparent...what you see is what you get.  Hillary is devious.



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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #9 on: March 10, 2016, 07:43:27 PM »
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    Trump also says he'll bring jobs back to America and rebuild what's little left of the U.S. manufacturing base (Jewish Wall St. and the globalists hate him for this reason). He'll end preemptive wars (warmongering Zionist Neocons, globalists and the War Machine hate him for this reason). He'll bring back "Merry Christmas" and do away with "happy holidays" around Christmas time (Jews and atheists hate him for this reason). He'll end federal funding to Planned Parenthood (Jewish proponents & pioneers of infanticide, and their feminist whore-pig lackeys, hate Trump for this reason). This is just off the top of my head.


    I have no doubt Trump will do well in reviving the American economy but that won't fix the real problems with our country.
     


    Reviving the economy is the best place to start.  North America has too much time on it's hands.  Putting people back to work will give them some pride in their accomplishments which they will want to protect.  With less time to get into mischief they will set standards to regulate the time they have outside work.  History shows us that working people are more content and MORAL.  Working parents don't put up with their kids nonsense nor do they make excuses for them.(Of course I'm talking about the two parent, male and female, family).

    Idle hands are the devil's workshop

    Get jobs back on U.S. soil and people working

    Trump is transparent...what you see is what you get.  Hillary is devious.


    So is Trump a good businessman or is he transparent?
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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #10 on: March 10, 2016, 08:12:40 PM »
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  • Trump is not an insider. The media hates him and using all means of
    lies. and falsehoods to stop him from being nominated.  The
    Republican establishments have spent millions of dollars to defeat
    him.  The U.S Chamber of Commerce hates Trump and spending
    million  of dollars to defeat him because they promote cheap
    immigrant labor.
    Trump is a populist. He is neither liberal and conservative.  He
    has engaged in topics such as illegal immigration, and middle east
    refugees that are majority Muslims. Also, he favors reopening the
    911 investigation in which we all know was a false flag.
    Hilary, Cruz, Rubio, and Sanders are all Zionist shrills, and get
    their money from Jewish Donors into the millions of dollars.
    They will continue policies of the Bushes, the Clintons, and
    Obama. More wars in the middle east, possible wars with Russia
    and China.
    At Lease Trump will talk to Putin, and even praises the Russian
    Intervention if the Middle East to destroy the proxy army of
    Isis.
    I am not saying Trump is perfect. He is an unknown.  He told
    a group of Jewish Republicans that he is not accepting their money.
    Trump so far has spent his own money.


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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #11 on: March 10, 2016, 09:59:52 PM »
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  • The Donald Haters: What is behind the Neocons' Anti-Trump Hysteria:

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160310/1036092047/what-lies-beneath-anti-trump-hysteria.html

    Neocons and some among the GOP elites are beside themselves with despair over presidential candidate Donald Trump's success, US political commentator Patrick J. Buchanan writes, posing the question: "Can the establishment stop Trump?"


    Donald Trump's triumphant march across the United States has prompted growing concerns among neocons and some GOP leaders.

    "Some among the GOP elites, who have waited patiently through the Obama era to recapture control of US foreign policy, are now beside themselves with despair over Trump's success," US conservative commentator Patrick J. Buchanan notes.

    "Fully 116 members of the GOP's national security community, many of them veterans of Bush administrations, have signed an open letter threatening that, if Trump is nominated, they will all desert, and some will defect — to Hillary Clinton!" he points out in his article for The American Conservative.


    Republican Presidential candidate businessman Donald Trump (L) speaks next to Texas Senator Ted Cruz during the Republican Presidential debate sponsored by Fox Business and the Republican National Committee at the North Charleston Coliseum and Performing Arts Center in Charleston, South Carolina on January 14, 2016



    Donald Trump Takes Mississippi Primary
    One of the signers, Robert Kagan — a neoconservative intellectual and vocal proponent of America's overseas military campaigns — insisted in his op-ed for The Washington Post that "the only choice will be to vote for Hillary Clinton."

    "Are they serious?" Buchanan asks.

    What makes them so desperately unhappy about the prospect of Donald Trump's potential victory?

    The conservative commentator points out that Trump calls the Iraq War a "historic blunder" and promises to remain neutral while brokering peace between Israel and the Palestinians, as Jimmy Carter did.

    And yes, he also says that he would "get along very well" with Russian President Vladimir Putin "as Richard Nixon got along with Leonid Brezhnev and Mao Zedong."

    "Trump would launch no new crusades for democracy. He would not oppose Russia bombing ISIS [Daesh]. He would build that wall on the border. He would transfer from US taxpayers to rich allies more of the cost of defending themselves," Buchanan continues.



    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks during a campaign stop in Council Bluffs, Iowa, Tuesday, Dec. 29, 2015.

    Trump Assures Supporters He Can Start Acting ‘Presidential’ Whenever He Wants
    Doesn't it make sense?

    However, the US political establishment fears that the presidential candidate will throw a monkey wrench in their global expansionist plans (which have nothing to do with America's national interests).

    "Now we all know that many of those who are hating on Donald Trump are doing so because he is threatening the cozy-crony-politico-predatory-capitalist system that has made so many of them fat and rich. He is intending to break their rice bowls as the Chinese would put it or, in a more American vernacular, the gravy train might be ending," CIA veteran Philip Giraldi wrote in his recent article for The Unz Review.



    Trump supporters rally behind their candidate during the South Carolina primary process on Friday, February 1

    Trump supporters rally behind their candidate during the South Carolina primary process on Friday, February 19.

    On the other hand, Daniel McAdams of the Ron Paul Institute nailed it describing Trump haters as "soft skinned and well-perfumed keyboard warriors who eagerly send America's sons and daughters to be slaughtered in wars that achieve nothing but the ascendance of new 'bad guys' used to justify ever more wars. And all of it pays very nicely for them."



    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump signs autographs for supporters at the conclusion of a Donald Trump rally at Millington Regional Jetport on February 27, 2016 in Millington, Tennessee

    Trump Leads Nationally, Struggles Within Republican Party
    It is hardly surprising that American oligarchs, including Nebraska's billionaire Ricketts family and Hedge-fund billionaire Paul Singer, have thrown their weight behind the all-out anti-Trump media campaign.

    Now he is "under a ceaseless barrage of attack ads on radio, TV, cable and social media."

    The question then arises: can the American political and financial establishment stop Trump?

    "Answer: It is possible, and we shall know by midnight, March 15. If Trump loses Florida and Ohio, winner-take-all primaries, he would likely fall short of the 1,237 delegates needed for nomination on the first ballot," the conservative commentator stresses.

    But it is not about Donald Trump, it's the future of the United States and the world that is at stake.

    "Can millionaires and billionaires who back open borders, mass immigration, globalization and the disappearance of nation states into transnational collectives overwhelm with their millions spent in ads the patriotic movements that arose this year to the wonderment of America and the world?" Buchanan asks.

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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #12 on: March 10, 2016, 11:12:33 PM »
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    Total Votes: 166,173


    **DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON THE 12TH REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16?



    TRUMP  52.2%  (86,743 votes)

    CRUZ  40.54%  (67,370 votes)



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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #13 on: March 11, 2016, 12:16:55 AM »
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  • I haven't spoken before, but I would like to tell you what I think about Trump.

    Trump certainly isn't a perfect choice, but we are facing some very dire times if Hilary gets in.  He isn't a politician, which is huge in my book, he is a successful business man, he is hated by all the people I can't stand in Washington, when he talks about what he would do for America it is always things I have been concerned about.  Especially the job situation.  The unemployment numbers are bogus and we know that so many can't find work, or if they do it is only part time.  We need jobs in America.

    One thing that has surprised me is he has never been a drinker and he doesn't smoke and he raised a pretty decent family. No, he isn't Catholic but God still protects our freedoms when we have a honorable leader even if he is an unbeliever. I have been praying for him a lot just because maybe the pressures of this political campaign may actually cause him to turn to our Lord in a big way.

    Let me ask you AnonymousCatholic isn't the fact of our great need in America for someone to do something about our crisis enough reason to at least hope he will do what he says and vote for him?  We don't know if he will follow through, but we DO know that the politicians aren't going to do anything - they have proved that.  It will be the same old thing with them.

    The way Obama has gutted the military, we could easily face a national crisis if some other nation attacked us.  We are pretty spoiled in that department. For that reason I will support someone from outside government who seems to know what the problems are.

    He needs are prayers.


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    How is Trump better than Hillary or Sanders?
    « Reply #14 on: March 11, 2016, 02:34:31 AM »
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    So I've argued with quite a few pro-Trump people on here recently and I want to ask:

    How is Trump truly the lesser of two evils?

    Because that is the bottom line point of the pro Trump people. Take one trip to google and you find the man isn't even morally tolerable. He is a pig. The only thing he says he'll do that is plausible is protect guns. And that's probably going to be handled like his pro life stance which means he says it for election day and forgets about it.

    Seriously the only thing he'll do is build a wall (maybe), legalize prostitution and build casinos in every city with federal money. He promises to make us money an  that's about it. Does money somehow make him less evil? I didn't know we all became Calvinists.

    So someone please explain to me how you can come to the conclusion that Trump is  the lesser of two evils.


    I won't comment on the premise of your thread, but you should know by now that coming into this group of Traditional Catholics and suggesting that morality is more important than economics will get you booed off the stage.
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