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Offline Matthew

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Re: How dare Catholics and Trads
« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2020, 01:07:25 PM »
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  • Matthew, no need to deride Hugh Akins by questioning his Catholic Patriotism or good common sense.  He was fighting the Commies before you were in your mother's womb
    Ah yes, the old "I've been doing such-and-such since you were an itch in your dad's pants".
    Like I told another member recently, I'm middle aged and no longer anxious to add years to my age. I'm old enough as it is. I wouldn't "trade places" with a man 10 or 30 years older than me *for anything*.
    I'll happily accept being inferior in experience, etc. if it means I get to stay in my low 40's. 
    When I was 12, I couldn't wait to be 13, and every passing birthday was awesome. Not anymore.
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    Re: How dare Catholics and Trads
    « Reply #46 on: January 11, 2020, 01:14:02 PM »
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  • You uncharitably smear Hugh's good name by making it appear that he is dependent upon kooks for his world view. Anyone who has read his monumental work ѕуηαgσgυє Rising and or his Oportet Christum Regnare magazine would know that is simply not so -- not so by a long shot (or by your cheap shot).

    Hugh is not beyond criticism. I am discussing his POSITION publicly. You are slamming me AND my position left and right. Wouldn't that also be uncharitable, bashing my good name? You set the standard here. How about we just agree that none of us are beyond criticism, and take our criticism like a big boy.

    Hugh Akins is *most certainly* dependent on SOME kind of public news source. Whether that news source is extremely fringe like Rense, Mainstream Media like CNN/NBC/Fox/etc. or some alternative news site. Are you suggesting that Hugh has a worldwide network of reporters "boots on the ground" gathering news and intel for Hugh's website, books, magazine? Call me a heckler, but I don't buy that for a second. He's getting 100% (not 99%) of his news from the Internet or some kind of paper newsletter/magazine/periodical just like everyone else.

    And wherever he's getting his information -- let's just say I'm not impressed. A weather service that called for sunshine and 70 degrees but we actually got pouring rain and low 50's -- for 3 weekends in a row -- would not be respected as a weather forecaster either.
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    Re: How dare Catholics and Trads
    « Reply #47 on: January 11, 2020, 01:25:24 PM »
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    Re: How dare Catholics and Trads
    « Reply #48 on: January 11, 2020, 01:36:42 PM »
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  • Hugh is not beyond criticism. I am discussing his POSITION publicly. You are slamming me AND my position left and right. Wouldn't that also be uncharitable, bashing my good name?

    Hugh Akins is *most certainly* dependent on SOME kind of public news source. Whether that news source is extremely fringe like Rense, Mainstream Media like CNN/NBC/Fox/etc. or some alternative news site. Are you suggesting that Hugh has a worldwide network of reporters "boots on the ground" gathering news and intel for Hugh's website, books, magazine? Call me a heckler, but I don't buy that for a second. He's getting 100% (not 99%) of his news from the Internet or some kind of paper newsletter/magazine/periodical just like everyone else.

    And wherever he's getting his information -- let's just say I'm not impressed. A weather service that called for sunshine and 70 degrees but we actually got pouring rain and low 50's -- for 3 weekends in a row -- would not be respected as a weather forecaster either.

    I never said or implied that Hugh was not beyond criticism.  He'd be the first to admit it.  Go back and read your post.  You were doing a lot more than merely discussing his position.  You were slamming him.  Can't you even see that?  If I have smeared your good name please spell it out for me.  I slammed your position and if that reflects on your good name in your view so be it.

    ѕуηαgσgυє Rising and the Oportet magazine are both extensively footnoted regarding his sources.  He doesn't hide them.  He is not dependent on kooks as you indicated.

    IMHO, you as the reigning monarch of CathInfo, you more than anyone should be willing to take criticism of your views without jumping to the  conclusion that your good name is being smeared.

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    Re: How dare Catholics and Trads
    « Reply #49 on: January 11, 2020, 01:55:47 PM »
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  • ѕуηαgσgυє Rising and the Oportet magazine are both extensively footnoted regarding his sources.  He doesn't hide them.  He is not dependent on kooks as you indicated.

    IMHO, you as the reigning monarch of CathInfo, you more than anyone should be willing to take criticism of your views without jumping to the  conclusion that your good name is being smeared.
    I wasn't really suggesting that you were smearing my name. I was making a point. Criticism is not "smearing" unless you have some kind of snowflake's definition of criticism.
    I never accused Hugh of "hiding" any of his sources. I merely expressed my opinion, in so many words, that whatever sources he was using are POOR because they DON'T MESH WITH REALITY. And I stand by that statement.
    I am not totally against Hugh or all of his writings. I agree with Mark, Hugh, and yourself about the Jєωιѕн Question. The disagreement, in the end, is about a very minor matter -- Donald J. Trump and the Q Patriot movement (both of which I believe in).
    Mark's opinion I have respect for, because he AT LEAST ACCOUNTS FOR WHAT I'VE SEEN AND HEARD out there in "reality". He thinks Trump is part of the non-Globalist faction of the Jєωs or whatever. At least that is possible. He could be right. Still, if the Jєωs are going to fight it out among themselves, and give us a choice in the matter, shouldn't we have a little Pro-Life party for 4 or 8 years, if we get the chance?
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    Re: How dare Catholics and Trads
    « Reply #50 on: January 11, 2020, 01:58:51 PM »
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  • I am not going to waste more than an hour of my Saturday arguing about Trump with y'all.

    I'm locking this thread.
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