Author Topic: Health care bill passed (Read 6711 times)

Vandaler · « **Reply #60 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:00:23 AM »

Thank you Dulcamara for taking the time to articulate your opinion.

sedetrad · « **Reply #61 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:41:58 AM »

If it is ok for Granny and your parents when they reach 65 to get their VERY EXPENSIVE million dollar health care and the obese and slovenly gov employess that I know from the government or those that routinley go on disability at much younger ages and get very expensive health care, then it is ok for the younger people to get their much less expensive health care. I want all of you complaining to be honest and make sure your parents and grandparents if they are complaining of this don't take those million dollar gov plans that come out of my pocket. I want you younger trad caths to buck up and pay for your parents and grandparents med bills. Have the courage of your convictions. They and you should not be part of the satanic system and should trust in God.

sedetrad · « **Reply #62 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:51:05 AM »

Everyone should trust in God, always. I am trying to say that it is impossible in the modern world to not be a part of the satanic system. We buy our clothes and food from evil companies. We pay taxes that murder millions in evil wars and foreign and domestic funded abortions. We buy our products from communist china slave mart. The list can go on for 20 pages. I think we all get my drift. Their has not been a gov bill passed in the last 20 years by either party that does not contain some small gross evil in it somehow. I am just trying to live in the reality of this evil world. I did not make it this way. I did not vote for Obama or McCain. I did not vote at all because I do not morally beleive in it. I am just trying to point out the hypocracy of many trads raging against this one bill when their were thousands of others that came before it that were also evil that they approved of. I am sick of it.

Belloc · « **Reply #63 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:37:48 AM »

Quote from: sedetrad

If it is ok for Granny and your parents when they reach 65 to get their VERY EXPENSIVE million dollar health care and the obese and slovenly gov employess that I know from the government or those that routinley go on disability at much younger ages and get very expensive health care, then it is ok for the younger people to get their much less expensive health care. I want all of you complaining to be honest and make sure your parents and grandparents if they are complaining of this don't take those million dollar gov plans that come out of my pocket. I want you younger trad caths to buck up and pay for your parents and grandparents med bills. Have the courage of your convictions. They and you should not be part of the satanic system and should trust in God.

Your characterization is far from Christian-many people, either do to mental or physical isseus, are trying to deal with obesity and are not all "slovenly"....neither of these statements implies a "trust in God" approach at all....

socialism is not of God, btw....

sedetrad · « **Reply #64 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:41:37 AM »

I am overweight, but am working to lose it all. It is very hard. I can tell you from experience that 98 percent of fat people are fat because of their diet and lack of exercise. I will now do the chrisitian thing and take out the 2 to 5 percent that are that way due to medical issues.

Belloc · « **Reply #65 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:51:39 AM »

Quote from: sedetrad

Everyone should trust in God, always. I am trying to say that it is impossible in the modern world to not be a part of the satanic system. We buy our clothes and food from evil companies. We pay taxes that murder millions in evil wars and foreign and domestic funded abortions. We buy our products from communist china slave mart. The list can go on for 20 pages. I think we all get my drift. Their has not been a gov bill passed in the last 20 years by either party that does not contain some small gross evil in it somehow. I am just trying to live in the reality of this evil world. I did not make it this way. I did not vote for Obama or McCain. I did not vote at all because I do not morally beleive in it. I am just trying to point out the hypocracy of many trads raging against this one bill when their were thousands of others that came before it that were also evil that they approved of. I am sick of it.

I too am sick of the hypocrisy of the Dems and the Repubs....I voted Baldwin in 2008, Peroutka 2004, as you know in NC, the board of elections has a lot of chicanery and falsehoods, votes thrown away-still happy with my vote, it was for good people

Clovis · « **Reply #66 on:** March 23, 2010, 10:39:00 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

You are lying. You don't care about euthanasia, abortion or rationing.

I come from a country much poorer than the USA but with a child mortality rate less than half if not more than you do because our values our different. We see society and family while you just think of yourselves as individuals. Stop screaming about abortions when all you are really concerned about is being taxed more.

Clovis · « **Reply #67 on:** March 23, 2010, 10:39:50 AM »

Of course it is deeply sinful to vote for any party which is pro-abortion.

TheD · « **Reply #68 on:** March 23, 2010, 02:08:41 PM »

Quote from: sedetrad

Everyone should trust in God, always. I am trying to say that it is impossible in the modern world to not be a part of the satanic system. We buy our clothes and food from evil companies. We pay taxes that murder millions in evil wars and foreign and domestic funded abortions. We buy our products from communist china slave mart. The list can go on for 20 pages. I think we all get my drift. Their has not been a gov bill passed in the last 20 years by either party that does not contain some small gross evil in it somehow. I am just trying to live in the reality of this evil world. I did not make it this way. I did not vote for Obama or McCain. I did not vote at all because I do not morally beleive in it. I am just trying to point out the hypocracy of many trads raging against this one bill when their were thousands of others that came before it that were also evil that they approved of. I am sick of it.

I agree with you here. Rebuplicons have done NOTHING to end abortion and have not reversed one thing liberals started.

Belloc · « **Reply #69 on:** March 23, 2010, 02:59:02 PM »

Quote from: Clovis

Quote from: Telesphorus

You are lying. You don't care about euthanasia, abortion or rationing.

I come from a country much poorer than the USA but with a child mortality rate less than half if not more than you do because our values our different. We see society and family while you just think of yourselves as individuals. Stop screaming about abortions when all you are really concerned about is being taxed more.

your country was founded by Catholics, ours by masons, deists, prots,etc........theirin the difference.....

Belloc · « **Reply #70 on:** March 23, 2010, 02:59:55 PM »

Quote from: sedetrad

I am overweight, but am working to lose it all. It is very hard. I can tell you from experience that 98 percent of fat people are fat because of their diet and lack of exercise. I will now do the chrisitian thing and take out the 2 to 5 percent that are that way due to medical issues.

me too, sometimes tend to gluttony.....looked at myself lsast night, look just like my dad and granddad when they were my age.......was not happy what I saw......

sedetrad · « **Reply #71 on:** March 23, 2010, 03:39:46 PM »

In a way you are lucky in a sense, my dad is a runner and runs 6 miles a day and is in perfect shape. I am overweight and am heavier than him. HeH!

Clovis · « **Reply #72 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:11:01 PM »

Quote from: Belloc

your country was founded by Catholics, ours by masons, deists, prots,etc........theirin the difference.....

But Cuba which was founded by Marxists who are worse than prods and deists by a long shot has a much lower child mortality rate (if the child isnt murdered in the womb) than the USA. I dont see what is intrinsically evil about the state insuring the welfare of its citizens. The Roman Empire had welfare programmes and the Fathers never condemned them though some of them said that they didnt go far enough.

That said Obama's support for abortion is intrinsicaly evil.

Clovis · « **Reply #73 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:13:11 PM »

Quote from: sedetrad

In a way you are lucky in a sense, my dad is a runner and runs 6 miles a day and is in perfect shape. I am overweight and am heavier than him. HeH!

Maybe try improving the quality of your food and therefore it would be easier to cut down on the quanity.

I just eat decent organic stuff which is more expensive but also better for you and tastier.

Belloc · « **Reply #74 on:** March 24, 2010, 07:28:50 AM »

Quote from: Clovis

Quote from: Belloc

your country was founded by Catholics, ours by masons, deists, prots,etc........theirin the difference.....

But Cuba which was founded by Marxists who are worse than prods and deists by a long shot has a much lower child mortality rate (if the child isnt murdered in the womb) than the USA. I dont see what is intrinsically evil about the state insuring the welfare of its citizens. The Roman Empire had welfare programmes and the Fathers never condemned them though some of them said that they didnt go far enough.

That said Obama's support for abortion is intrinsicaly evil.

actually, no, Marxism came in 1959, Cuba wa a republic many years before that......usually dictatorships, like Batista, but a full, official marxist nation not until 1959.....

what is evil is that the state has no role in welfare-remember, states kill people far more than any other group...left to the mercy of the state, how long before the old are snuffed out? the retarded? handicapped?? Those that do not have a 'right" attitude?

Due to Prussian centralization and almost worship of the state, that is why Hitler murdered millions, long before any Jєωs.....even now in Britain, you are stuck after a certain age, getting reduced benefits and little....Welfare is the domain of the Church and hr community