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George Will going off on his libertarian nonsense yet again
« on: February 09, 2014, 05:13:45 PM »
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  • George Will said today against Ann Coulter that immigration is good for America since that means more economic opportunity for business and thus will lead to better jobs for all Americans.

    I have no words to even say to this despicable nonsense other than to use the same words libertarians like George Will love to use against those on the Right, calling them Nazis, fascists, racists, socialists, etc.

    So George Will is a liberal obviously who obsesses over economics and has no idea behind nation, race, tradition, culture, etc. since his only ideal is money. George Will is obviously controlled by the Fortune 500 and Wall Street in his daily rambling. George Will's wealthy lifestyle obviously makes him very elitist and has no idea behind the racial problem. George Will is obviously a social anarchist as is the libertarian movement, and is also an agnostic.

    So George Will yopu sir are obvuiously the rich man, the elitist, the rich liberal who obsesses over economics, and have no idea what in the world you are speaking of other than the obvious bribe money Wall Street gave to you to prattle your nonsense.

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    George Will going off on his libertarian nonsense yet again
    « Reply #1 on: February 09, 2014, 05:15:55 PM »
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  • If George Will were any good he would be ostracized by the rest of the Jew media and treated like a leper. :fryingpan:
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    George Will going off on his libertarian nonsense yet again
    « Reply #2 on: February 09, 2014, 05:28:01 PM »
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  • That's alright I want all of you libertarians to downthumb me and admit that you are nothing more than liberals, drug-users and social anarchists. :smirk:

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    « Reply #3 on: February 09, 2014, 05:30:49 PM »
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    That's alright I want all of you libertarians to downthumb me and admit that you are nothing more than liberals, drug-users and social anarchists. :smirk:

    For some reason the libertarians have an ideal of a world without the state. It seems to me if there were no state to keep people in line the world would quickly devolve into savagery and cannibalism.
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    George Will going off on his libertarian nonsense yet again
    « Reply #4 on: February 09, 2014, 05:33:57 PM »
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    For some reason the libertarians have an ideal of a world without the state. It seems to me if there were no state to keep people in line the world would quickly devolve into savagery and cannibalism.


    The State is needed to keep law and order. The State is needed to collect taxes. The State is needed to support social justice. The State is needed to protect its boundary lines. What libertarianism supports is simple materialism, sexual orgies, drug havens, pacifist nonsense, a world without borders, an economy that can oppress the worker, etc.

    In fact libertarianism comes out of the same leftist tendencies of Communism and Social Democracy.


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    George Will going off on his libertarian nonsense yet again
    « Reply #5 on: February 09, 2014, 09:19:09 PM »
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    For some reason the libertarians have an ideal of a world without the state. It seems to me if there were no state to keep people in line the world would quickly devolve into savagery and cannibalism.


    The State is needed to keep law and order. The State is needed to collect taxes. The State is needed to support social justice. The State is needed to protect its boundary lines. What libertarianism supports is simple materialism, sexual orgies, drug havens, pacifist nonsense, a world without borders, an economy that can oppress the worker, etc.

    In fact libertarianism comes out of the same leftist tendencies of Communism and Social Democracy.


    Everything you are complaining about is found in the U.S. today.  All of it.

    These immigrants are coming here for the free goodies that the state is willingly providing.  In fact, the state is the principal source of the chaos.  

    I despise the neo-cons and the George Wills amongst them.  

    A Catholic state - yes.  A Masonic state where manufactured grievances are used to pit groups of people against each other for the sole purpose of increasing the state's power - count me out.

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    George Will going off on his libertarian nonsense yet again
    « Reply #6 on: February 09, 2014, 10:09:55 PM »
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    Everything you are complaining about is found in the U.S. today.  All of it.


    Yes so what do libertarians have to complain about?

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    These immigrants are coming here for the free goodies that the state is willingly providing.  In fact, the state is the principal source of the chaos.


    Well yes and no. The State and the military forces should be used to enforce the borders and laws. If we instead allow more chaos we will indeed reach a racial war.

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    I despise the neo-cons and the George Wills amongst them.


    George Will is not a neoconservative, he is a libertarian. And I am not threatened by neo-cons since they are "all chiefs and no Indians" but libertarianism has a large youth following.

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    A Catholic state - yes.  A Masonic state where manufactured grievances are used to pit groups of people against each other for the sole purpose of increasing the state's power - count me out.


    The ideals of libertarianism are the same ideals that came out of the liberal revolutionaries of the French Revolution.

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    « Reply #7 on: February 10, 2014, 07:03:13 AM »
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  • What do libertarians have to complain about?

    A growing totalitarian state which is becoming more intrusive into people's lives and more so on a daily basis.  Soon Obamacare, no matter how dis functional, will be seen as standard.  Tax rates will go up to pay for waste but waste will be seen as something entitled.  

    You're not getting the very basics of the libertarian ideas and that is that the government should be small, very small.  People could then be free to move back and forth but other people wouldn't constantly be subsidizing this behavior with their tax dollars.  We are now paying through our taxes for the funding that provides benefits for illegal immigrants but even worse for abortion and even when the govt funding seems to be generally beneficial, it is coercive theft by an elite who truly despise the average citizen.  I am speaking here of the U.S.

    As for the idea of community, that is found in small pockets of humanity.  Like-minded individuals and blood ties are the basis for a community.  



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    George Will going off on his libertarian nonsense yet again
    « Reply #8 on: February 10, 2014, 07:13:28 AM »
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    A growing totalitarian state which is becoming more intrusive into people's lives and more so on a daily basis.  Soon Obamacare, no matter how dis functional, will be seen as standard.  Tax rates will go up to pay for waste but waste will be seen as something entitled.


    This nation has a long history of sacrificing liberty for safety. I will admit Obamacare will be a horrible thing but then again this is but another notch in the bark of progressivism from free schooling to Social Security.

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    You're not getting the very basics of the libertarian ideas and that is that the government should be small, very small.  People could then be free to move back and forth but other people wouldn't constantly be subsidizing this behavior with their tax dollars.  We are now paying through our taxes for the funding that provides benefits for illegal immigrants but even worse for abortion and even when the govt funding seems to be generally beneficial, it is coercive theft by an elite who truly despise the average citizen.  I am speaking here of the U.S.


    You're not getting the basic premise of how a nation should operate and that is the State should be used to support moral choices. Yes the government funds and supports bad choices but that is because of the men in charge. Libertarianism on the other hand supports immigration, drugs, all forms of sexual activity, unregulated capitalism, free trade, free markets, etc.

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    As for the idea of community, that is found in small pockets of humanity.  Like-minded individuals and blood ties are the basis for a community.


    Race, culture, ethnic ties, tradition, etc. keep a nation together, something that will soon both compromise the U.S., Canada, and Europe as they allow a huge Arab, African, and Hispanic population for coming in.

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    « Reply #9 on: February 10, 2014, 07:48:37 AM »
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  • The nation, any nation worthwhile, would be a collection of individuals in family units based on Faith first and culture second.  Hoping for a strong man to be a tough guy on the world stage is not something to be hoped for.  And don't forget that nations can be small and quiet.  

    A nation could be as small as 15,000 citizens or less and a nation could occupy less than 50 square miles.  There is no real pressing need for big.  In fact, getting bigger usually brings in dissension.

    Libertarians are liberty-minded and anti-government coercion.  That is the most basic premise.

    Statists crave power and they use communities as bargaining chips or billy clubs so it is all coercion.   Statiists almost always want their ideas forced on others, the libertarian is a liberty-minded guy and these libertarians are not the source of trouble in the U.S.  

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    George Will going off on his libertarian nonsense yet again
    « Reply #10 on: February 10, 2014, 08:00:06 PM »
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    The nation, any nation worthwhile, would be a collection of individuals in family units based on Faith first and culture second.  Hoping for a strong man to be a tough guy on the world stage is not something to be hoped for.  And don't forget that nations can be small and quiet.


    I see more libertarian pacifist nonsense. A real leader is one who uses strength to get his way on the world stage. Now I am not talking about war here but I do mean a nation's leader should deal a "real good hand" when it comes to international relations. Also support of militarism and a military lifestyle is a good thing.

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    A nation could be as small as 15,000 citizens or less and a nation could occupy less than 50 square miles.  There is no real pressing need for big.  In fact, getting bigger usually brings in dissension.


    When it comes to different races being in the same nation getting bigger brings dissension however small nations are usually unimportant on the world stage and easily pushed aside by larger nations.

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    Libertarians are liberty-minded and anti-government coercion.  That is the most basic premise.


    That is exactly the problem and what I mean when I say libertarians are descendents of the French Revolution ideologists.

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    Statists crave power and they use communities as bargaining chips or billy clubs so it is all coercion.   Statiists almost always want their ideas forced on others, the libertarian is a liberty-minded guy and these libertarians are not the source of trouble in the U.S.


    Actually libertarianism is a bigger problem than neoconservatism as it is a huge new ideology which seems to be the "in thing" with the nation's youth. I fear libertarianism and its anti-social anarchy more than any Trotskyist neoconservative. The State can be used to force its ideology on mankind if it is a moral thing to do.


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    « Reply #11 on: February 10, 2014, 08:00:25 PM »
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    For some reason the libertarians have an ideal of a world without the state. It seems to me if there were no state to keep people in line the world would quickly devolve into savagery and cannibalism.


    The State is needed to keep law and order. The State is needed to collect taxes. The State is needed to support social justice. The State is needed to protect its boundary lines. What libertarianism supports is simple materialism, sexual orgies, drug havens, pacifist nonsense, a world without borders, an economy that can oppress the worker, etc.

    In fact libertarianism comes out of the same leftist tendencies of Communism and Social Democracy.


    >The State is needed to keep law and order.
    Private law, arbitrators.
    > The State is needed to collect taxes.
    Taxes are stealing.
    >The State is needed to support social justice.
    lol
    >What libertarianism supports is simple materialism, sexual orgies, drug havens, pacifist nonsense, a world without borders, an economy that can oppress the worker, etc.
    Sexual Orgies? What in heavens name are you taling about?
    >an economy that can oppress the worker, etc.
    Wow you sound like a socialist.

    Libertarianism is the only logical choice.

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    George Will going off on his libertarian nonsense yet again
    « Reply #12 on: February 10, 2014, 08:08:42 PM »
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    The nation, any nation worthwhile, would be a collection of individuals in family units based on Faith first and culture second.  Hoping for a strong man to be a tough guy on the world stage is not something to be hoped for.  And don't forget that nations can be small and quiet.


    I see more libertarian pacifist nonsense. A real leader is one who uses strength to get his way on the world stage. Now I am not talking about war here but I do mean a nation's leader should deal a "real good hand" when it comes to international relations. Also support of militarism and a military lifestyle is a good thing.

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    A nation could be as small as 15,000 citizens or less and a nation could occupy less than 50 square miles.  There is no real pressing need for big.  In fact, getting bigger usually brings in dissension.


    When it comes to different races being in the same nation getting bigger brings dissension however small nations are usually unimportant on the world stage and easily pushed aside by larger nations.

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    Libertarians are liberty-minded and anti-government coercion.  That is the most basic premise.


    That is exactly the problem and what I mean when I say libertarians are descendents of the French Revolution ideologists.

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    Statists crave power and they use communities as bargaining chips or billy clubs so it is all coercion.   Statiists almost always want their ideas forced on others, the libertarian is a liberty-minded guy and these libertarians are not the source of trouble in the U.S.


    Actually libertarianism is a bigger problem than neoconservatism as it is a huge new ideology which seems to be the "in thing" with the nation's youth. I fear libertarianism and its anti-social anarchy more than any Trotskyist neoconservative. The State can be used to force its ideology on mankind if it is a moral thing to do.


    I actually feel psychically sick  from reading this post.

    Statists are insane.

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    « Reply #13 on: February 10, 2014, 08:08:54 PM »
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    Private law, arbitrators.


    The government is needed to keep the peace and order of society. That is a logical fact and only an anarchist thinks otherwise.

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    Taxes are stealing.


    Taxes are needed to raise revenue for the government to run efficiently.

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    lol


    Good grasp of the English language there. I would suggest you read Rerum Novarum and see Pope Leo XIII himself said that the government should be used to support social justice.

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    Sexual Orgies? What in heavens name are you taling about?


    I am speaking of libertarianism's social liberalism.

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    Wow you sound like a socialist.


    If we want to use name-calling here you sound like a liberal and are basically a mirror-Marxist since you see man as an economic animal.

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    Libertarianism is the only logical choice.


    For an anarchist, drug-user, and a pimp perhaps.

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    George Will going off on his libertarian nonsense yet again
    « Reply #14 on: February 10, 2014, 08:11:04 PM »
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    I actually feel psychically sick  from reading this post.

    Statists are insane.


    To see a libertarian admit defeat brings a smile to my face. Libertarians are insane.

     

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