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Gay marriage a sign of the apocalypse: Russian Patriarch
« on: July 23, 2013, 06:55:31 AM »
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    Gay ‘marriage’ a ‘sign of the apocalypse’: Russian Patriarch[/b
    ]by Hilary White
    Mon Jul 22, 2013 16:32 EST
    Tags: gay marriage, homosexuality, patriarch kirill, russia MOSCOW, July 22, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In his Sunday sermon this weekend in Kazan Cathedral in Moscow, Patriarch Kirill, Primate, of the Russian Orthodox Church, warned against the extraordinary rise in many western countries of the homosexualist movement. Kirill said that the trend of legalizing “gay marriage” is “a very dangerous sign of the apocalypse.”


    It “means people are choosing a path of self-destruction,” he said. He said he supports the recently passed national ban on homosexualist propaganda that has prohibited the Gay Pride festivities that have become a prominent feature of national life elsewhere.

     
    Patriarch Kirill“Lately, we have enormous temptations, when a number of countries opting for sin is approved and justified by the law, and those who, acting in good conscience, are struggling with such laws imposed by a minority, being repressed,” Kirill said.

    He added that everything must be done to prevent the approval of sin “on the spaces of Holy Russia.” Otherwise, “the people are embarking on the path of self-destruction”.
     
    The sermon came the Sunday following the passage in Britain of the Cameron government’s so-called “equal marriage” bill. Religious leaders and democracy campaigners both strenuously warned the government that its passage would seriously threaten foundational democratic freedoms.

    Colossal forces have set out “to convince us all that the only value is the freedom of choice,” said the patriarch, “and no one has the right to infringe on that value, even when a person chooses evil, even when a person chooses a socially dangerous behavior.”

    Even the most perfect laws, however, cannot eradicate corruption, lies, evil and confrontation, he said: “These can be eradicated only by the person who has made a free choice in favor of the good.”

    In recent months, Kirill’s has emerged as the strongest and most uncompromising religious voice in Europe against the apparently unstoppable political juggernaut of the international homosexualist movement. His comments yesterday follow his warning at a meeting in Moscow in May this year with Secretary General of the Council of Europe, Thorbjorn Jagland, where he said, “Today we have a very dangerous development, the laws regarding same-sex marriages and adoption of their children which go against the moral nature of man.”

    If people choose this lifestyle,” the Polish news service Interfax quoted him saying, “it is their right, but the responsibility of the Church is to say that it is a sin before God”.

    What the Russian Orthodox Church is concerned about, Kirill said, “is not the fact of the existence of this sin - it has always existed. But we are deeply concerned that for the first time in the history of the human race sin is being justified by law. This opens up the prospect of a dangerous development, which will contribute to the moral degradation of society.”

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    « Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 09:04:42 AM »
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  • Another clear sign that the Catholic Church is no longer a voice of truth.

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    Another clear sign that the Catholic Church is no longer a voice of truth.



    The Catholic Church is always the voice of God and His truth.  The Conciliar church, with its antipopes, which has separated itself from the Catholic Church is a liar and deceiver.
    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic

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    Gay marriage a sign of the apocalypse: Russian Patriarch
    « Reply #3 on: July 23, 2013, 01:56:14 PM »
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    I don't know what that portends, but I'm glad SOME representative of the Holy Triune God is standing up for the truth.

    Compare that to the language of Pope Francis on gay marriage. I used to pimp Card. Bergoglio's quote about gay marriage ("Let’s not be naïve, we’re not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God"), but since becoming Pope, he's been more "diplomatic" on the topic:

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    In his remarks to Welby, Francis said he hoped they could collaborate in promoting the sacredness of life "and the stability of families founded on marriage." ...

    Significantly, though, Francis didn't specify that marriage should be based on a union between a man and woman, which is how Benedict XVI and John Paul II routinely defined it in a way that made clear their opposition to same-sex marriage.

    Vatican officials said Francis' phrasing was a diplomatic attempt to make his point without making a provocative pronouncement....


    which the pro-gay article I linked above points out:

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    A diplomatic way of being against gay marriage? Wow. Once politicians start doing that -- such as when Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both stopped defining marriage as "between a man and woman" a few years back -- they eventually support same-sex marriage. I'm not saying Francis is anywhere near there (though he did reportedly support civil unions, as I noted in a post a couple of months back). But having harshly railed against gay marriage back when he was in Argentina, only to lose that battle, he may be seeing that the handwriting is on the wall and that he's got better things to do with his time. And that can only be seen as a loss for Maggie Gallagher and other anti-equality advocates who hoped the pope would loudly lead their crusade.


     :pray: I sure hope Pope Francis starts sounding a bit more truthful like the RO's Krillin. Seriously. Conciliar or not, you can't have 'Church' in the name and not denounce evil.

    And why is the Vatican always "correcting" what the Pope reportedly said? This isn't the only time "the Vatican" has re-worded, or denied, what Pope Francis said.
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    Gay marriage a sign of the apocalypse: Russian Patriarch
    « Reply #4 on: July 23, 2013, 02:10:51 PM »
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    I sure hope Pope Francis starts sounding a bit more truthful like the RO's Krillin. Seriously. Conciliar or not, you can't have 'Church' in the name and not denounce evil.


    The Conciliar church and its heretic "popes" are not the Catholic Church.  That is why they do not speak the truth, and lead all who adhere to them astray.

    The Catholic Church does denounce evil, and if we had a pope he would be doing that.  The Catholic Church stands up against all evils it is faced with.
    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic


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    Gay marriage a sign of the apocalypse: Russian Patriarch
    « Reply #5 on: July 23, 2013, 04:26:27 PM »
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    I don't know what that portends, but I'm glad SOME representative of the Holy Triune God is standing up for the truth.

    Compare that to the language of Pope Francis on gay marriage. I used to pimp Card. Bergoglio's quote about gay marriage ("Let’s not be naïve, we’re not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God"), but since becoming Pope, he's been more "diplomatic" on the topic:

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    In his remarks to Welby, Francis said he hoped they could collaborate in promoting the sacredness of life "and the stability of families founded on marriage." ...

    Significantly, though, Francis didn't specify that marriage should be based on a union between a man and woman, which is how Benedict XVI and John Paul II routinely defined it in a way that made clear their opposition to same-sex marriage.

    Vatican officials said Francis' phrasing was a diplomatic attempt to make his point without making a provocative pronouncement....


    which the pro-gay article I linked above points out:

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    A diplomatic way of being against gay marriage? Wow. Once politicians start doing that -- such as when Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both stopped defining marriage as "between a man and woman" a few years back -- they eventually support same-sex marriage. I'm not saying Francis is anywhere near there (though he did reportedly support civil unions, as I noted in a post a couple of months back). But having harshly railed against gay marriage back when he was in Argentina, only to lose that battle, he may be seeing that the handwriting is on the wall and that he's got better things to do with his time. And that can only be seen as a loss for Maggie Gallagher and other anti-equality advocates who hoped the pope would loudly lead their crusade.


     :pray: I sure hope Pope Francis starts sounding a bit more truthful like the RO's Krillin. Seriously. Conciliar or not, you can't have 'Church' in the name and not denounce evil.

    And why is the Vatican always "correcting" what the Pope reportedly said? This isn't the only time "the Vatican" has re-worded, or denied, what Pope Francis said.


    This sounds familiar, kinda like what this guy has been trying to do to the SSPX.

    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

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    Gay marriage a sign of the apocalypse: Russian Patriarch
    « Reply #6 on: July 23, 2013, 05:44:58 PM »
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    Another clear sign that the Catholic Church is no longer a voice of truth.



    Oops, I meant to say the concilliar church. I deserve the hate.

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