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Offline Mat183

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Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2025, 08:18:58 PM »
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  • Or does he support a Personhood Amendment to the Constitution?

    He endorsed the 2022 Life at Conception Act (a federal Personhood bill) on both the 12 Jan 2022 and 29 Jan 2023 shows.  When the constitutional route is raised, he answers yes—“it would be ideal to have an Amendment enshrining personhood from conception nationwide. That is the end goal.”


    Since then, he changed his stance. When asked (e.g., 17 Aug 2023 Q&A, 9 Oct 2023 AF Live), he says federal personhood sounds good in theory but would be “dead on arrival” and could risk cementing abortion jurisprudence if a liberal Court struck it down. Instead he calls for state-by-state abolition and, ideally, executive enforcement of the 14th-Amendment duty to protect life.

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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #31 on: August 16, 2025, 09:24:16 PM »
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  • @Mat183 Thanks for the references.
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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #32 on: August 16, 2025, 09:28:28 PM »
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  • He endorsed the 2022 Life at Conception Act (a federal Personhood bill) on both the 12 Jan 2022 and 29 Jan 2023 shows.  When the constitutional route is raised, he answers yes—“it would be ideal to have an Amendment enshrining personhood from conception nationwide. That is the end goal.”
    The end-goal should be making abortion illegal and punishing violators with a just punishment.
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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #33 on: August 16, 2025, 09:37:24 PM »
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  • No, Fuentes is NOT giving a blanket allowance for abortion “for the life of the mother” or in “rape.”
    "if everyone was having sex within marriage", then "All children would be planned." is false.
    "if everyone was having sex within marriage", then "the only time you get an abortion is if it is a form of birth control" is false.
    "if everyone was having sex within marriage", then "there would be far fewer" abortions might be true.

    He should've said this, which is certainly true: "If abortion is criminalized and punished, then there would be far fewer abortions, because most citizens are law-abiding."
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    Re: Fuentes pro-contraception
    « Reply #34 on: August 16, 2025, 09:39:44 PM »
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  • Getting married in an judaized society in no way saves the innocents from being slaughtered.
    Indeed. Even if 100% of the society is married, murderers still need to be punished, deterred.
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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #35 on: August 16, 2025, 10:01:32 PM »
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  • How did the subject line go from the defamatory assertion of "Fuentes cucks on abortion" to the defamatory assertion of "Fuentes pro-contraception"?


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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #36 on: August 17, 2025, 05:30:05 AM »
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  • Just because someone says "I support this/that", doesn't mean they support this/that.

    This is political theater through and through. It's gatekeeping 101. Say something based/true for a little, do some right wing alt stuff, and then real em' in. 

    Been doing this over and over since the 60's. 

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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #37 on: August 18, 2025, 09:09:55 AM »
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  • He reminds me of another agent provocateur, Milo Y.  I think they pose as Catholics only to cover up their degeneracy.
    He is really nothing like Milo who is a fed and a narcissistic flamboyant gαy ( who BTW has a scary understanding of Traditional Catholicism although he is a jew)

    Nick is an avowed virgin until marriage and that is so difficult for most normies to wrap their heads around that they have to attribute some perversion to it.

    He is a NO Papist ( oh well) but he appears to have a deep understanding of Catholicism as a 26 year old.
    I think he is brilliant and a force of nature at this point and has had 10 years of mocking censoring and marginalizing to hone his wit, courage and perseverance.
    Nick is the man to watch.


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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #38 on: August 18, 2025, 09:13:10 AM »
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  • He is really nothing like Milo who is a fed and a narcissistic flamboyant gαy ( who BTW has a scary understanding of Traditional Catholicism although he is a jew)

    Nick is an avowed virgin until marriage and that is so difficult for most normies to wrap their heads around that they have to attribute some perversion to it.

    He is a NO Papist ( oh well) but he appears to have a deep understanding of Catholicism as a 26 year old.
    I think he is brilliant and a force of nature at this point and has had 10 years of mocking censoring and marginalizing to hone his wit, courage and perseverance.
    Nick is the man to watch.
    I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you on this. If he had a "deep understanding" of Catholicism he wouldn't be a "NO Papist". Nor would he support a reasoning with the current system to go back to a fake normalcy. Cmon, now.

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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #39 on: August 18, 2025, 09:19:55 AM »
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  • Relatively speaking.
    Please. 

    How many popular pundits are proudly and unashamedly promoting Catholic Monarchy?
    I don't think in this instance we should make perfect the enemy of good. 
    He is still very young but amazingly on target.

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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #40 on: August 18, 2025, 09:48:40 AM »
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  • Relatively speaking.
    Please.

    How many popular pundits are proudly and unashamedly promoting Catholic Monarchy?
    I don't think in this instance we should make perfect the enemy of good.
    He is still very young but amazingly on target.
    A Catholic Monarchy? If today's "Catholic" knew what would be expected of them in a Catholic monarchy, they would vote for the side of American Liberty because of how spoiled and modernist we have become. You can bank on that. A Catholic monarchy is not in the cards in our lifetime, anyway. 

    I see things as objectively as I can. 

    The Catholic monarchies already had no REAL absolute power since maybe before the French revolution. 

    Fuentes just caters to what you wanna hear.


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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #41 on: August 18, 2025, 01:33:49 PM »
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  • I've been listening to Fuentes since last September, during the election. I've been supporting and defending him this year. But after some things were brought to my attention last week, I had to change my tune. I cannot support him anymore, though I'm certain his news analysis will remain very interesting.

    https://theweltgeist.substack.com/p/my-opinion-about-nick-fuentes-as

    I've actually lost a few subscribers after posting this.
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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #42 on: August 18, 2025, 07:26:45 PM »
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  • I've been listening to Fuentes since last September, during the election. I've been supporting and defending him this year. But after some things were brought to my attention last week, I had to change my tune. I cannot support him anymore, though I'm certain his news analysis will remain very interesting.

    https://theweltgeist.substack.com/p/my-opinion-about-nick-fuentes-as

    I've actually lost a few subscribers after posting this.

    There are two issues here: one is Fuentes’ immaturity and offensive humor, and the other is the more serious allegations being raised by Vox and Owen. The first is undeniable—Nick said and did things that many people find distasteful. The second, however, is much murkier. Strong accusations require strong evidence, and so far, what’s been presented is more interpretation and insinuation than proof.

    The fairest reading may be that Fuentes is still young, still immature, and still hasn’t reckoned with the responsibility that comes with influence. That doesn’t make him irredeemable, but it does limit how seriously he can be taken by those outside of his most loyal followers. If he wants to mature into a legitimate leader, he’ll need to own up to mistakes, show self-awareness, and rebuild trust.

    The jury’s still out. His next steps will determine whether he stays a controversial internet figure—or becomes something more substantial.



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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #43 on: August 18, 2025, 09:44:34 PM »
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  • I've been reading Owen Benjamin on X and he is relentless about calling Nick gαy and a pedophile , although there is no actual substance that he brings to the table. Is he afraid if being sued and just teeters on the "edge" with it?.
     I actually wish he would come out with something more concrete so it could be researched and factchecked but there is never anything more than innuendo.
    Nobody wants to support a potential bad actor, but there is also nothing worse than accusing someone of something terrible and it winds up being false. 
    This is also how campaigns are launched to destroy someone's reputation and career- Israel is very good at this.
    I read Vox's article and it says a lot about groypers, but not a lot about Nick. Vox intimates that Nick encourages perverted behaviors in his "followers", but I don't see it.
     Nick admits that he and the groypers are incels- young white guys that have had a hard time socially with women and modern relationships. Guys that feel like they have been left behind and Nick speaks for them . I can see where there is a lot of anger and acting out online by these young guys- not excusing but is it Nick's responsibility to monitor what they wind up saying and doing? Is that even possible? 

    Remember the Candace Owens " Christ is King" controversy?
    She lifted that off of Nick who was proclaiming that amongst his groypers for years. 

    Nick admitted to being a virgin and vows to not have sex until marriage so the world has to accuse him of being a gαy pedo because he doesn't date. He admits to being weird but not perverted. He also knows and has stated that he has to be on the lookout for honeypots- he knows what a target he is., 

    I'm not even sure why I'm defending him ( his language is awful) but I do think he's brilliant with a Catholic worldview .
     I hope none of this dark stuff is true. it would be a terrible waste of a great mind.



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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #44 on: August 18, 2025, 10:22:34 PM »
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  • I've been listening to Fuentes since last September, during the election. I've been supporting and defending him this year. But after some things were brought to my attention last week, I had to change my tune. I cannot support him anymore, though I'm certain his news analysis will remain very interesting.

    https://theweltgeist.substack.com/p/my-opinion-about-nick-fuentes-as


      As regards the stone throwing of Day Vox and Owen Benjamin in the above link, it should be noted that they live in their own glass houses with their own baggage and agendas.
    • Rash judgment & detraction  Publicly imputing grave sins without competent proof, venue, or jurisdiction is classic rash judgment; broadcasting a person’s alleged private sins is detraction—even if true—when there’s no proportionate good. Accusation-as-content violates the Eighth Commandment. A Catholic critique writes itself: “This is not how Catholics pursue justice; this is how we farm outrage.”
    • No due process, no witnesses, no forum of correction. Matthew 18 gives a graduated path; Canon law reserves crimes of sɛҳuąƖ abuse to competent ecclesial or civil authority. Turning suspicions into monetized streams/blogs is the opposite of fraternal correction.
    • Scandal and spiritual harm. Milking lurid insinuations (“pervy,” “honey pot,” “underage”) creates scandal—driving the weak to contempt or cynicism—without actually protecting anyone. If there’s truly a crime: report it; if not, stop smearing.
    • Incoherence with claimed goals. If the stated aim is defending Christian civilization, then calumny, mockery, and innuendo are self-refuting tools. Catholics can say: “You don’t defend Logos by bearing false witness.”
    • Pride & profiteering. Personality-cult feuds (refusal to debate, purity tests, victory laps when platforms ban rivals) reek of vainglory. A traditional Catholic response: “Less YouTube court, more confession.”